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***Note! This is still in it's Draft/Interest check stage!*** I apologize in advance for the lack of periods, as the key suddenly stopped working on my keyboard

Welcome one and all to my 1st annual Nürburgring endurance!

Here I will try to create the most diverse but yet competitive racing there is, bringing cars from each racing series into the driving haven that is Germany

The race will be in a 4-hour format ( set to 35 laps for approximate correctness), where 15 drivers in 3 different categories will fight to be the winners

The classes are named GT1, GT2 and GT3, but are not as the real life classes are:

GT1 is the ultimate racers, in the 630PP+ range
GT2 is the GT cars of the real world, mixed with DTM, JGTC and PDs own Touring Cars
GT3 the the cars aimed more at endurance racing, with around 170 BHP, and are at an approximate 475PP range

LMP cars are not added, the current cars added in the GT1 car class are still very powerful compared to the GT2 and GT3

Full car list is at the bottom, but the numbers are not final
I will do testing of every single car to ensure that they are competitive
Every car listed can only be driven by ONE RACER! This means that when the time comes, its first post first serve! The ratio of cars in each category will be 1:1:1 to the extent I can

If there is enough interest, I will run several races to accomodate everyone

The room will run as follows:
Race type: Race For Real
Fixed Room Ownership
Max number of participants: 16 (I will not race simply be a pace car for the occation)
Race quality: 5 stars
Voice Chat: Enabled (we will use this to call out blue flags, cautions etc) (A mic is not required, but reccomended)
Track: Nürburgring 24H
Weather at start: 0%
Time: 13:00
Time Progression: 13 (will be fixed to be as close to 24h progression in 4 hours as possible)
Number of laps: 40 (will be fixed to be as close to 4 hours)
Weather Changeability: Not yet decided
Surface Water at start: 0

Qualifying will be done with the ingame qualifying method
Time limit: 30 minutes

Hold Races: Disabled
Start Type: Grid start
Grid Start: Fastest First
Boost: Off
Penalty: Weak
Tyre Fuel Depletion: Fast (will be tested to fit with the time)
Grip reduction: Real
Required pitstop: Off (You will need to pit several times anyway, so no need for this)
Race finish Delay: 180 Seconds
Visible Damage: On
Mechanical Damage: Light
Slipstream Strength: Real

Driving aids:
Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
Active Steering: Prohibited
ASM: Prohibited
Driving Line: Prohibited
Traction Control: Avalible
ABS: Avalible

Standard OLR Rules apply!

Ruleset will be posted as I have straightened out other details

The start will begin with the pace car guiding the cars around the GP part of the course in a double file manner

After the chicane at the end of the GP course, the pace car will keep to the right, and the race is underway

Contact, off track or passing of any kind will lead to a penalty during the pace lap

Any driving off road for the purpose of gaining time or to pass will lead to a penalty
Off track is decided as "more than 2 wheels off track at any time" (Kerbs are part of the track, anywhere else is decided by the white lines

If you go off track by mistake, and gain an advantage, you must slow down to allow any cars to pass again to avoid a penalty

Any suggestions are very welcome, and I will consider each comment

The car list below is the final list of acceptable cars, but HP, weight and class may change when testing is finished! Areas marked by questionmarks are simply because I don't own the cars yet, and the dealership does not list it

The GT500 cars are listed as one in each dealership, and you can choose freely of these! Base models are banned as I don't think they fit in as well as the real racing counterparts

Car list is as follows:

GT1 class:
BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 630 PP
Gillet Vertigo Race Car '04 - 897 BHP - 780 KG - 665 PP
Mercedes AMG Mercedes CLK-LM - 599 BHP - ???? KG - 655 PP
Nissan R390 GT1 - 641 BHP - 1,000 KG - 657 PP
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) Lm Race Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 652 PP

GT2 class:
Alfa Romeo 155 2,5 V6 TI '93 - 414 BHP - 1,010 KG - 524 PP
Audi A4 Touring Car '04 - 453 BHP - 1,080 KG - 559 PP
Audi TT-R '02 - 463 BHP - ???? KG - 564 PP
Audi R8 LMS Team Oreca '10 - 560 BHP - 1,340 KG - 586 PP
Audi R8 LMS Ultra - 562 BHP - 1,250 KG - 599 PP
BMW M3 GTR Race Car '01 - 443 BHP - 1,120 KG - 553 PP
BMW E92 M3 '10 - 499 BHP - 1,245 KG - 569 PP
BMW M3 GT - 499 BHP - 1,245 KG - 569 PP
BMW Z4 GT3 - 507 BHP - 1,190 KG - 592 PP
Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car - 542 BHP - 1,180 KG - 591 PP
Lamborghini NOMAD Diablo GT-1 - 591 BHP - 1,200 KG - 593 PP
Lister Storm V12 Race Car - 593 BHP - 1,438 KG - 580 PP
McLaren F1 GTR - BMW - 600 BHP - 1,050 KG - 618 PP
Opel Calibra Touring Car - 414 BHP - 1,040 KG - 523 PP
Opel Astra V8 Coupé - 453 BHP - 1,000 KG - 564 PP
Mercedes- Benz CLK Touring Car - 443 BHP - 1,000 KG - 571 PP
Mercedes- Benz SLS AMG GT3 - 493 BHP - 1,350 KG - 610 PP
Pagani Zonda LM Race Car - ??? BHP - 1,150 KG - 618 PP
Vauxhall Calibra Super Touring Car - 449 BHP - 1,060 KG - 531 PP
Vauxhall Astra Super Touring Car - 453 BHP - 1,000 KG - 564 PP
Ford (AU) Falcon XR8 - 499 BHP - 1,350 KG - 594 PP
Honda S2000 LM Race Car - ??? BHP - 1,050 KG - 485 PP
Honda NSX GT500 cars (not base model or stealth) - 473 BHP - 1,150 KG - 560-569 PP
Honda HSV GT500 cars (not base model) - 493 BHP - 1,100 KG - 573 PP
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR Touring Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 517 PP
Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring Car - ??? BHP - 980 KG - 552 PP
Mazda RX-7 Touring Car - ??? BHP - 975 KG - 569 PP
Mazda RX-8 Concept LM Race Car - ??? BHP - 1,100 KG - 571 PP
Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car - ??? BHP - 1,080 KG - 574 PP
Lexus SC430 GT500 cars (not base model) - 473 BHP - 1,100 KG - 565-571 PP
Lexus IS F Touring Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 596 PP
Nissan GT-R GT Academy - 562 BHP - ??? KG - 548 PP
Nissan Calsonic Skyline GT-R - 542 BHP - 1,260 KG - 554 PP
Nissan Falken GT-R - 493 BHP - 1,360 KG - 560 PP
Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,145 KG - 561 PP
Nissan GT-R N24 Schulze Motorsport - 493 BHP - 1,505 KG - 561 PP
Nissan Skyline GT500 cars - 453 BHP - 1,100 KG - 568-571 PP
Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,115 KG - 574 PP
Nissan GT-R GT500 cars (not base model) - 443-493 BHP - 1,100 KG - 574-577PP
Nissan Motul Pitwork Z - 458 BHP - 1,080 KG - 579 PP
Nissan 350Z Concept LM Race Car - ??? BHP - 1,120 KG - 579 PP
Nissan xanavi Nismo GT-R - 478 BHP - 1,080 KG - 583 PP
Nissan Xanavi Nismo Z - 493 BHP - 1,100 KG - 591 PP
Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,130 KG - 594 PP
Nissan GT-R Nismo GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport - 542 BHP - 1,350 KG - 609 PP
Nissan Gt-R R35 Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,215 KG - 615 PP
Nissan Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car - ??? BHP - 1,120 KG - 625 PP
Subaru Impreza Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,140 KG - 557 PP
Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra - 473 BHP - 1,090 KG - 565 PP
Toyota GT500 Supras (not Base Model) - 463-493 BHP - 1,100 KG - 569-582 PP
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Race Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 536 PP
Chevrolet Camaro SS Touring Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 594 PP
Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car - ??? BHP - 1,160 KG - 604 PP
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R - 620 BHP - 1,139 KG - 607 PP
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) LM Race Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 616 PP
Dodge Challenger R/T Race Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 576 PP
Ford GT40 Race Car - 493 BHP - 998 KG - 562 PP
Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car - ??? BHP - 1,150 KG - 633 PP
SRT Challenger SRT8 Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,285 KG - 563 PP
SRT Viper GTS-R (Team Oreca) - ??? BHP - 1,150 KG - 608 PP
Lamborghini Diablo GT2 - 631 BHP - 1,530 KG - 552 PP
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car - 599 BHP - 1,168 KG - 580 PP
Subaru Impreza Super Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,030 KG - 553 PP

GT3 class:
Renault Sport Mégane Trophy - 359 BHP - 955 KG - 511 PP - 1:32.585 (C!)
Autobacs ARTA Garaiya - 295 BHP - 1,175 KG - 507 PP - 1:34.234
Lotus Elise Race Car - 173 BHP - 645 KG - 497 PP - 1:35.948 (C!)
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 Touring Car - 247 BHP - 910 KG - 579 PP - 1:36.058
Honda Integra Type R Touring Car - 305 BHP - 1,050 KG - 471 PP - 1:36.799
Volkswagen Scirocco GT24 - 320 BHP - 1,120 KG - 477 PP - 1:38.655
BMW 320i Touring Car - 256 BHP - 1,140 KG - 455 PP - 1:39.785
Honda Civic Type R (EK) Touring Car - 247 BHP - 845 KG - 455 PP - 1:40.401
Lotus Motor Sport Elise - 200 BHP - 700 KG - 475 PP - 1:40.494 (c)
Honda CR-Z Touring Car - 199 BHP - 910 KG - 442 PP - 1:40.586
Honda MUGEN MOTUL CIVIC Si - 221 BHP - 890 KG - 433 PP - 1:41.214
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI Touring Car - 216 BHP - 980 KG - 427 PP - 1:41.537
Mazda Roadster Touring Car - 214 BHP - 795 KG - 464 PP
Mazda Atenza Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,070 KG - 472 PP
Mazda Mazda6 Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,070 KG - 480 PP
Lexus IS 200 GT-1 - 276 BHP - 1,010 KG - 464 PP
Lexus Weds Sport IS350 - 295 BHP - 1,150 KG - 505 PP
Nissan mm-R Cup Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 423 PP
Nissan C-west Razo Silvia - 295 BHP - 1,150 KG - 590 PP
Nissan Silvia spec-R AERO Touring Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 507 PP
RE Amemiya AsparaDrink RX7 - 305 BHP - 1,100 KG - 504 PP
Opera Performance S2000 - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 477 PP
Subaru Cusco Dunlop Impreza - 295 BHP - 1,100 KG - 507 PP
Subaru BRZ R&D Sport - 345 BHP - 1,150 KG - 510 PP
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) Race Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 410 PP
Trial Celica SS-II - 279 BHP - 1,140 KG - 460 PP
Toyota Gazoo Racing 86 - 197 BHP - ??? KG - 403 PP
Toyota Prius Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,035 KG - 443 PP
Toyota Altezza Touring Car - ??? BHP - 1,000 KG - 484 PP
Toyota Superautobacs Apex MR-S - 295 BHP - 1,125 KG - 501 PP
Toyota Wedssport Celica - 295 BHP - 1,050 KG - 509 PP
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) Touring Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 477 PP
Hyundai Click Type-R - 99 BHP - ??? KG - 331 PP
Spoon S2000 Race Car - 310 BHP - 1,050 KG - 483 PP
Spoon Fit Race Car - ??? BHP - ??? KG - 361 PP
AMG mercedes 190 E 2,5 - 16 Evolution II - 372 BHP - ??? KG - 519 PP
Honda Gathers Drider Civic - 182 BHP - 930 KG - 398 PP
 
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Im intersted, but it depends on the hour and day the race will start.

I suggest you to not put fixed host, because if the host internet connection goes out, the whole race is gone.
 
FishHunters
So you're talking 5 drivers in each class? Four hrs is toooo much for me. But I would go 2.
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Yes, 5 cars in each class unless there is more than 15 people taking part, where I will part it up as closely as possible

Vendrah
Im intersted, but it depends on the hour and day the race will start.

I suggest you to not put fixed host, because if the host internet connection goes out, the whole race is gone.
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Time and date are not set yet, but it will be after new years

I did not think of that, but if that is the case, and I can't reconnect for whatever reason, I will need a "right hand man" to oversee the race, and give me the results
 
Im interested as long as it doesnt happen while Im working and would use the BMW Z4 GT3 - 507 BHP - 1,190 KG - 592 PP - GT2
 
Bsholmes1993
Im interested as long as it doesnt happen while Im working and would use the BMW Z4 GT3 - 507 BHP - 1,190 KG - 592 PP - GT2
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Noted, but as I said in the OP, individual car specs are subject to change. I will update them as I have made the car list more manage, and I have started to get the cars equal
 
I have another suggestion but I dont think you should take it - if you already had tested the cars.

Instead of putting fiction grid, you could be a bit closer to the real life Nurburgring 24 hours selecting SP9-GT3, SP8 and SP3-T (the newest cars)from this list:

a) SP9-GT



P BMW Motorsport Team Schubert Z4 GT3 ´11

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/Starter_24hrace_2013.pdf


P Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport ’13

P Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 ’13

P Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 Base Model ’13

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/Starter_24hrace_2013.pdf


P Audi R8 LMS Ultra ´12

P Audi R8 LMS Ultra (Audi Sport Team Phoenix) ´12

P Audi R8 LMS – Team Oreca ’10

S Audi R8 LMS Race Car (Team PlayStation) '09

S Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/Starter_24hrace_2013.pdf


P Mercedes Benz SLS AMG GT3 ´11

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/Starter_24hrace_2013.pdf



b) SP8 & A8



P Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) LM Race Car '09 '09 (SP8)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2010/entrylist.html


P Lexus IS F Touring Car (SP8)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2010/entrylist.html


P Nissan GT-R N24 Schulze Motor Sports '11 (SP8)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2011/entrylist.html


S Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (C5) '00 (SP8)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2006/entrylist.html


S Nissan FALKEN☆GT-R Race Car '04 (A8)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2005/entrylist.html


S Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #91 '00 (A8)

S Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #51 '00 (A8)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2005/entrylist.html



c) SP6 & A6



P Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR Touring Car '05 (SP6)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2006/entrylist.html


P Mazda RX-7 Touring Car (A6)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2004/entrylist.html


S BMW M3 GTR Race Car '01 (A6)

http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/...nuerburgring-nordschleife/2005/entrylist.html


S Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Race Car(A6)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2003_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf



d) SP3-T



P Subaru IMPREZA Touring Car (SP3-T)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2011_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf

http://www.forcegt.com/news/tuned-s...ent/subaru-impreza-wrx-sti-ts-nurburgring-01/


P Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Rally Car (SP3-T)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2010_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


P Volkswagen Scirocco GT24 (Volkswagen Motorsport) ’08 (SP3-T)

P Volkswagen Scirocco GT24 Base Model ’08 (SP3-T)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2008_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf



e) Others



P Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy '12 (SP8-T)

http://web.archive.org/web/20130907.../media/24h_Rennen_2012_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


P BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) ’11 (E1-XP)

P BMW M3 GT2 Base Model ’11 (E1-XP)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2010_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


P Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EK) Touring Car '97 '97 (N 1/2)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2002_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


P Lotus Elise Race Car '96 (A9/10)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2002_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


P Toyota 86 Race Car Base Model ’12 (V3)

p Toyota GAZOO Racing TOYOTA 86 #166 '12 (V3)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/Starter_24hrace_2013.pdf


P Volkswagen Golf IV GTI Touring Car '01 (S1)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2002_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


S Spoon S2000 Race Car ‘00 (A3)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2002_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


S Renault Sport Clio Renault Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car '00 (A3)

Renault Sport Lutecia Renault Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car '00 (A3)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2002_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


S Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5 – 16 Evolution II Touring Car ‘92 (A4)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2002_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


S Toyota ALTEZZA Touring Car (A3)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2003_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


S Volkswagen New Beetle Cup Car '00 (S1)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2003_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf


S BMW 320i Touring Car '03 (A3)

http://www.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_2004_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt.pdf
 
Vendrah
I have another suggestion but I dont think you should take it - if you already had tested the cars.

Instead of putting fiction grid, you could be a bit closer to the real life Nurburgring 24 hours selecting SP9-GT3, SP8 and SP3-T (the newest cars)from this list:

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Althogh that would be closer to real life, my vision is really to grab something from every racing series featured on GT6, an GT all stars endurance if you will.

The reason I did the GT1-3 settings that I have listed is to grab the diversity in every category, so not only performance, but also strategy and tire/fuel consumption is a variable that everyone needs to take into account.

I think that the most suprising cars might be the smallest cars in the GT3 categories. The click (when tuned, I can bet that it wont keep up the pace to the other GT3 cars) might be incredible on fuel, and it just might keep it up in the long run

On another note, if you all who have noted an interest in the series, if you could give me a heads up on what class you are interested in, so I can get a demografic.

Also, do you think that (if there is enough contenders), that I should run rooms that are only one class at a time, giving more competition, or all 3, to give diversity?
 
hazzy
Also, do you think that (if there is enough contenders), that I should run rooms that are only one class at a time, giving more competition, or all 3, to give diversity?
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I dont have any answers about it. There are advantages and disadvantages on doing it. Diversity is cool, however, 15 cars for a endurance are really few cars (real Nurburgring got something around 150 and passed 200 few years ago;Spa endurance got more than 50). However, it is something rare on GT...

EDIT: I also wouldnt participate if we have an empty grid =/. Minimum of 12 to me.
 
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I like the idea of this, I'd be interested in the GT3 class as I'm fairly new to online racing and like the idea of the clean rules.

Time/date dependent count me in, I'll need to get some practice in mind!

PS. I do prefer the idea that the chap had in regards to a more true representation of Nur24 hr, simply because the original list of cars is so diverse I think too much will depend on car choice. I have noticed some seriously huge differences in fuel/tyre wear in certain cars to a somewhat unbalanced point.

Also definitely weather on, its not the Nurburgring without its own weather ;)
 
batousan
I like the idea of this, I'd be interested in the GT3 class as I'm fairly new to online racing and like the idea of the clean rules.

Time/date dependent count me in, I'll need to get some practice in mind!

PS. I do prefer the idea that the chap had in regards to a more true representation of Nur24 hr, simply because the original list of cars is so diverse I think too much will depend on car choice. I have noticed some seriously huge differences in fuel/tyre wear in certain cars to a somewhat unbalanced point.

Also definitely weather on, its not the Nurburgring without its own weather ;)
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Although a realistic representation of the N24 is fun, I'm aiming more for a diverse endurance (as stated in a previous post). My testing does include tire/fuel usage as well, so it will result in a level playing field. Right now I am going though every single car, mapping things out, and its time consuming (and hard on credits! There is a lot of millions in that list). I'm going though GT3 now, and I'm getting there in terms of lap times, next on the list is to map out fuel/tire usage over the course of x laps. I'll compile findings when I get that far, for future reference for everyone.
 
hazzy
Although a realistic representation of the N24 is fun, I'm aiming more for a diverse endurance (as stated in a previous post). My testing does include tire/fuel usage as well, so it will result in a level playing field. Right now I am going though every single car, mapping things out, and its time consuming (and hard on credits! There is a lot of millions in that list). I'm going though GT3 now, and I'm getting there in terms of lap times, next on the list is to map out fuel/tire usage over the course of x laps. I'll compile findings when I get that far, for future reference for everyone.
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Wow, apologies, I missed out on reading that from your original post. Nice work :D
 
I am keen on participating in this event, time and date dependant. :cool:

Also, if you have enough interest I think that running one race per class (GT1, GT2 & GT3) would be better to allow as much wheel to wheel racing as possible. 👍

I would be interested in running GT2 and/or GT3 depending on if you run one race or three. GT1 class cars are not of significant interest to me.

For GT2 I would like to run Honda HSV GT500 and for GT3 the Subaru BRZ GT300! Big fan of the Super GT series and these are the latest editions to GT6 for each class. :D

Will keep an eye on this thread. :cheers:
 
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batousan
Wow, apologies, I missed out on reading that from your original post. Nice work :D
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The thing that is most interesting is how it will pan out between drivers. Some cars are quite easy to keep on the track, while others have the potential to be incredibly fast, but needs a driver with great skills to handle. A quick example as of right now: The ARTA Garaya is a damn quick car, but is a bit unpredictable with its oversteer, while the Motul Civic is incredibly planted, but quite a bit slower.

Of course these will be balanced out a bit, but I know that some cars will be a lot more friendly to newer players than other, and those who are great at setups might excel quite a bit.
 
I'm quite keen on the AMG mercedes 190 E 2,5 - 16 Evo II myself but theres loads in that list I'd like to try. This is going to hurt the credits...
 
batousan
I'm quite keen on the AMG mercedes 190 E 2,5 - 16 Evo II myself but theres loads in that list I'd like to try. This is going to hurt the credits...
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I will advice to not buying anything yet, as I still need to find a balance to them all. Some cars might have altered characteristics when Im done.
 
I already have the AMG 190E dtm, its an awesome car, loved it in GT5 too. Been working on an Nur24hr tune for a while now and managed to balance the tyre wear out completely evenly front to back and keep it sub 9 mins (24hr layout) which is good for me lol :D
 

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