Nürburgring Nordschleife Time Trial Club (Rules Update 1.01)

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Nürburgring Nordschleife Time Trial Club
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Overview:
TT Club designated for the Nurburgring Nordschleife. All Time Trial results will be listed in a leaderboard fashion by Track Layout & Car Class, which will be listed below. All TT Results will be following certain track conditions for all to have level playing field, which are mentioned in the Info & Settings section below. So pick you weapon of choice, start you engines and give your best shot. The Nürburgring Nordschleife TT Club has been created to test GTP Member’s driving skills. Hopefully over time, we would have built a good leaderboard to compare everyone’s times into different classes.

Rules & Regulations
1. Select Time Trial
2. Select Nürburgring Nordscheilfe
3. Select Car
4. Drive.
5. Take Picture of Fastest Lap.
6. Post Laptime with pic.
7. Post Laptime Format: Time (m:ss.nnn) / Car / GTP Name / PC.PS4.X1 / Screenshot

NNTTC Info & Settings:
Track:
Nürburgring Nordscheilfe
Mode: Time Trial
Vehicle: Any
Tuning: Allowed (Tune needs to be created and saved before entering TT)
Driving Assists: Any

Tracks Details:

Nürburgring Nordschleife Track & Cornering Map:
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Track Locations of Note:
***Wikipedia***
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Flugplatz ("Flying Place")
The Nordschleife was formerly known for its abundance of sharp crests, causing fast-moving, firmly-sprung racing cars to jump clear off the track surface at many locations. Although by no means the most fearsome, Flugplatz is perhaps the most aptly (although coincidentally) named and widely remembered. The name of this part of the track comes from a small airfield, which in the early years was located close to the track in this area. The track features a very short straight that climbs sharply uphill for a short time, then suddenly drops slightly downhill, and this is immediately followed by two very fast right-hand kinks. The Flugplatz is one of the most important parts of the Nürburgring because after the 2 very fast right handers comes what is possibly the fastest part of the track: a downhill straight called Kottenborn, into a very fast curve called Schwedenkreuz (Swedish Cross). Drivers are flat for some time here.

Fuchsröhre ("Fox Hole")
The Fuchsrohre is soon after the very fast downhill section succeeding the Flugplatz. After negotiating a long right hand corner called Aremberg (which is after Schwedenkreuz) the road goes slightly uphill, under a bridge and then it plunges downhill, and the road switches back left and right and finding a point of reference for the racing line is difficult. This whole sequence is flat out and then, the road climbs sharply uphill. The road then turns left and levels out at the same time; this is one of the many jumps of the Nürburgring where the car goes airborne. This leads to the Adenauer Forst (Forest) turns. The Fuchsrohre is one of the fastest and most dangerous parts of the Nürburgring because of the extremely high speeds in such a tight and confined place; this part of the Nürburgring goes right through a forest and there is only about 7–8 feet of grass separating the track from Armco barrier, and beyond the barriers is the wall of trees.

Bergwerk ("Mine")
Perhaps the most notorious corner on the long circuit, Bergwerk has been responsible for some serious and sometimes fatal accidents. A tight right-hand corner, coming just after a long, fast section and a left-hand kink on a small crest, was where Carel Godin de Beaufort fatally crashed. The fast kink was also the scene of Niki Lauda's infamous fiery accident during the 1976 German Grand Prix. This left kink is often referred to as the Lauda Links (Lauda left). The Bergwerk, along with the Breidscheid/Adenauer Bridge corners before it, are one of the series of corners that make or break one's lap time around the Nürburgring because of the fast, lengthy uphill section called Kesselchen (Little Valley) that comes after the Bergwerk.

Caracciola Karussell ("Carousel")
Although being one of the slower corners on the Nordschleife, the Karussell is perhaps its most famous and one of its most iconic - it is one of two berm-style, banked corners on the track. Soon after the driver has negotiated the long uphill section after Bergwerk and gone through a section called Klosteral (Monastery Valley), the driver turns right through a long hairpin, past an abandoned section called Steilstrecke (Steep Route) and then goes up another hill towards the Karrusell. Once the driver has reached the top of the hill, the road then becomes sharply banked on one side and level on the other - this banking drops off, rather than climbing up like most bankings on circuits. The sharply banked side has a concrete surface, and there is a foot-wide tarmac surface on the bottom of the banking for cars to get extra grip through the very rough concrete banking. Cars drop into the concrete banking, and keep the car in the corner (which is 210 degrees, much like a hairpin bend) until the road levels out and the concrete surface becomes tarmac again. Usually cars come out of the top of the end of the banking to hit the apex that comes right after the end of the Karrusell. Shortly after the Karussell is a steep section, with gradients in excess of 16%, leading to a right-hander called Hohe Acht, which is some 300m higher in altitude than Breidscheid.

Brünnchen ("Small Fountain")

A favorite spectator vantage point, the Brünnchen section is composed of two right-hand corners and a very short straight. The first corner goes sharply downhill and the next, after the very short downhill straight, goes uphill slightly. This is a section of the track where on public days, accidents happen particularly at the blind uphill right-hand corner. Like almost every corner at the Nürburgring, both right-handers are blind. The short straight used to have a steep and sudden drop-off that caused cars to take off and a bridge that went over a pathway; these were taken out and smoothed over when the circuit was rebuilt in 1970 and 1971.

Pflanzgarten ("Planting Garden")
The Pflanzgarten, which is soon after the Brunnchen, is one of the fastest, trickiest and most difficult sections of the Nürburgring. It is full of jumps, including 2 huge ones, one of which is called "Sprunghugel" (Hill Jump). This very complex section is unique in that it is made up of 2 different sections - getting the entire Pflanzgarten right is crucial to a good lap time around the Nürburgring.

Pflanzgarten 1 is made up of a slightly banked, downhill left hander which then suddenly switches back left, then right. Immediately after, giving the driver nearly no time to react (knowledge of this section is key), the road drops away twice - the first jump is only slight, then right after (kind of like a staircase) the road drops away very sharply which usually causes almost all cars to go airborne; the drop is so sudden. Then, immediately after the road levels out very shortly after the jump and the car touches the ground again, the road immediately and suddenly goes right very quickly and then right again; this is what makes up the end of the first Pflanzgarten- a very fast multiple apex sequence of right hand corners.

The road then goes slightly uphill and then through another jump; the road suddenly drops away and levels out and at the same time, the road turns through a flat-out left hander. Then, the road suddenly drops away again very suddenly, which is the 2nd huge jump of the Pflanzgarten known as the Sprunghugel. The road then goes downhill then quickly levels out, then it goes through a flat-out right hander and this starts the Pflanzgarten 2. This part of the Nürburgring is very tricky because the road quickly switches back left and right - a car is going so fast through here that it is literally like walking on a tightrope. It is very difficult to find the racing line here because the curves come up so quickly, so it is hard to find any point of reference. Then, after a jump at the end of the switchback section, it goes through a flat-out, top gear right hander and into a short straight that leads into two very fast curves called the Schwalbenschwanz (Swallow's Tail).

The room for error on every part of the consistently high-speed Pflanzgarten is virtually non-existent (much like the entire track itself) - this is why it is such a difficult part of the circuit. The road and the surface of the Pflanzgarten moves around unpredictably; knowledge of this section is key to getting through cleanly.

Schwalbenschwanz/Kleine Karrusell ("Swallow's Tail"/"Little Carousel")
The Schwalbenschwanz is a sequence of very fast sweepers located after the second Pflanzgarten. After a short straight, there is a very fast right hand sweeper that progressively goes uphill, and this leads into a blind left-hander that is a bit slower (but still rather fast). The apex is completely blind, and the corner then changes gradient a bit; it goes up then down, which leads into a short straight that ends at the Kleine Karrusell. The Kleine Karrusell is similar to its bigger brother, except that it is a 90 degree corner instead of 210 degrees, is faster and slightly less banked. Once this part of the track is dealt with, the drivers are near the end of the lap; with 2 more corners to negotiate before the long Dottinger Hohe straight.
 
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-LEADERBOARDS-
Leaderboard will be adjusted on the go and categories are not final as of yet.

Formula Cars
-Formula A-

-Formula B-

-Formula C-

-Formula GULF FG1000-

-Formula Rookie-

Prototype
-LMP1-

-LMP2-

-Prototype 2-

-Prototype 1-

-LMP 900*-

GT
-GT1X-

-GT3-

-GT4-

-Entry GT*-

Touring
-Super Touring-

-Renault Clio Cup-

-Trans Am-

Historic
-Touring Group 2-

-Group A-

-Group 5-

-60s GT-

-BMW M1 Procar Challenge-

-1985 Lotus 98T Renault Turbo-

-972 Lotus 72D Cosworth-

-1977 Lotus 78 Cosworth-

-1969 Lotus 49 Cosworth V8-

-1990 Caper Monterey Stock Car-

Road
-Super Cars-

-Track Day Club-

-GT Club-

-Touring Club-

-Entry Level / 2012 Caterham Classic-
 
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I would be interested in joining this as a PC driver, however as far as I'm aware on PC the weather setting for time trial mode is set to light cloud and there is no fuel consumption in this mode either, I think it's fixed at 5L to keep a level playing field.
 
I would be interested in joining this as a PC driver, however as far as I'm aware on PC the weather setting for time trial mode is set to light cloud and there is no fuel consumption in this mode either, I think it's fixed at 5L to keep a level playing field.

Its the same on PS4. Weather is fixed and fuel is set. I should remove that part from the rules. Lol
 
@moeom Im definitely up for some timetrials on the ring but Im not sure how it works. You just grab any car and post the time and class here? Or you name a car and we have a go at it? We do the latter in the CRAP pCARS club and it seems to work fairly well.
 
Hey @Mr_D,

It's actually a lot simpler than that. You decide what car to take. When you are free to drive around the ring, just pick a car and drive. Once i get a time from you or any other driver, i will just update the leaderboard depending on the car that was used. Hopefully over time, the leaderboard will grow.

I wanted to do something similar to that in GT6, but i just didnt get the chance to run it or put time into it because my brother sold the PS3 and i got busy with work.
 
Hey @Mr_D,

It's actually a lot simpler than that. You decide what car to take. When you are free to drive around the ring, just pick a car and drive. Once i get a time from you or any other driver, i will just update the leaderboard depending on the car that was used. Hopefully over time, the leaderboard will grow.

I wanted to do something similar to that in GT6, but i just didnt get the chance to run it or put time into it because my brother sold the PS3 and i got busy with work.
OKay, that'll take some time though. I'll try and set some times soon . 90% of my time racing in GranTurismo (back in the dayz) I was hotlapping the ring anyway :)
 
Same here. Near the end of my GT6 Career was hotlapping the Ring and thats how i decided to do this.
 
What's up guys?
Put me down for sure. SEIDO463 on PS4. I think a couple mates may tag along in this too.
I love lapping the Ring. Love in pcars. Best version by far. Have been waiting for a sim like this to hit console for a long time.
The first lap of the Ring was before I even knew of the mighty track, Project Gothem Racing, online at night. I was amazed.
Since then I've run it on the GT game series, Forza series and NFS Shift 1 & 2.

The maps and descriptions on the OP are great! I like the freeness of this set up.

Cheers

L
 
7:38.158 / Ariel Atom 300 Supercharged / Johnnypenso/ PC
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6:48.819 / Ruf RGT-8 GT3 / Johnnypenso / PC

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7:06.029 / McLaren F1 / Im_lukas / PC

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This car is so much fun here, I started out driving the ring like I was playing GT6 or FM5 but it went horribly wrong so I took a different approach where I'm not bouncing all over the curbs with 2 wheels on the grass for half the lap. As for the laptime itself, the car is definitely capable of going sub-7 minutes with a good driver even without a tuning setup although I had to adjust brake balance to stop losing the rear end.

Now the hardest decision, what car to take next? :)
 
Tuned this car for Oschersleben and thought I'd see if it worked at the Nords...it didn't:ouch: Made quite a few adjustments and ended up here:

7:58.416 / BMW 1-Series M Coupe / Johnnypenso / PC

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