Nascar Series @ Daytona Superspeedway

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Ok, this race is a living nightmare. Ten laps of pure hell on Earth.

Could somebody please help me out? WTF do you need to do in order to avoid those other turds spinning you off the track? I've tried going on the inside, I've tried the outside, everything I can think of.
Doesn't make any difference. At some point in the race (between lap 4 and lap 6 at the very best) some @!~!!¬: sends my car spinning and it's a case of see ya, baby! Restart.

I must have tried between 30-40 times and I seem no closer to solving this enigma.

Thanks.
 
Try using chase cam. Then you can see when they get too close & you have a little bit of time to avoid them

Yes the AI in the NASCAR series are total 🤬
 
Well I did it before the update (where ASM is turned on permanently for the NASCAR events) but I did it that way:
I became first and drove on the left side of the Track the whole time (left wheels on or over the Yellow-line). Got bumped but did not crash.

But there is a second method:
Keep the last position until last lap, than try to overtake the whole field during last lap. Didn´t try that but I read this somewhere here.

And if you can turn ABS off.
It is still a wreckrace but I loved it surprisingly (had to run it 20-30 times to gold it, plus got the Trophy for the close finishing)
 
^ Yeah, I thought of maybe doing that. Just keeping close to the rest of the field until the very end and then try slipstreaming past them with only 1-2 laps to go. But I'll try staying on the left for the entire race (I seem to remember doing that and got 8 laps through before someone clipped me) but I may well have swung over to the right or the middle.....
 
Ok, this race is a living nightmare. Ten laps of pure hell on Earth.

Could somebody please help me out? WTF do you need to do in order to avoid those other turds spinning you off the track? I've tried going on the inside, I've tried the outside, everything I can think of.
Doesn't make any difference. At some point in the race (between lap 4 and lap 6 at the very best) some @!~!!¬: sends my car spinning and it's a case of see ya, baby! Restart.

I must have tried between 30-40 times and I seem no closer to solving this enigma.

My NASCAR fan buddies entertain the philosophy that NASCAR is really monumentally difficult in terms of simply driving the cars. They're amazed all to hell and back by the fact that the things weigh around two tons and still the drivers manage to keep them going in a straight line or gentle arch. They think it takes enormous amounts of skill just to get the car around the track. Driving the cars around the track is easy. Overcoming the enormous luck factor and not getting spun out are the tricky bits.

One problem here is luck; being in the right place at the right time. Part of the nature of this motorsport is that being the car out in front automatically makes you slower than the cars behind you, who benefit from being behind you, which grants them the power to overtake you whenever they choose, and there isn't much that you can do about it except maybe to try blocking, but the problem with that is that swerving about can get yourself spun out.

Further, a problem with GT5 is that even doing absolutely nothing at all beyond keeping your track position can get you spun out as soon as a car, any car, rams you, and they will ram you. I don't really follow NASCAR, as it's not my motorsport of choice, but I check in on the occasional race now and then, and all of the real-world drafting that I've seen has been regular drafting and not "slam drafting", such as the AI in GT5 employs. In real life, there's a combination of 1) drivers having the ability to not pound the back of your car as hard as they possibly can but rather quietly tucking in behind you to match your speed, and 2) the fact that they deliberately built some give into the rears of the cars so that a tap at the rear doesn't violently upset your car. In GT5, the AI rivals will ram you as hard as they can and will definitely upset your car in a big way.

It doesn't help that you don't have a spotter, either. With a spotter you could be informed about what other cars around you are doing and their exact positions in relation to you. In GT5 you have to rely on what you can determine through different camera views. If you're used to driving in the cockpit or as close to that as possible, driving from a camera view floating behind you could be disorienting and an unfavorable option, and cycling through camera views just to get a peek or regularly toggling the rear view can mean taking your eyes off the road ahead of you.

I wish that I could offer some sort of help here, but I can't. I won these events when we were still able to toggle ABS off, which effectively crippled ASM, so I was able to pull enough of a gap that the folks behind me stayed back there without being able to threaten me. I'm just sort of highlighting issues with this sort of event, I guess. The best suggestions I've seen are to deliberately not take the lead but rather to lurk just shy of the lead, drafting someone, and then pouncing near the end.
 
Stay in the pack until the last turn, then pull out a lead after drafting a car and cross the line in first.
 
I find that the camera facing the rear bumper is most useful for spatial awareness and judging distances between cars. Frequently toggle the rear camera to know which side a car will pass. This will avoid being spun out.

You will want to be near the front of the pack up until lap 9. From here work your to 2nd position and hold it. On the straights don't overtake the 1st car. Stay behind while slightly bumping its rear. Wait until after the last bend before overtaking and you should be able to take the lead.
 
Stay in the pack until the last turn, then pull out a lead after drafting a car and cross the line in first.

Yeah, sounds like the best option. Thanks.
 
I found this race to be not so hard.

I just overtook them all in the first lap and stayed in first place, blocking them if needed. The AI slow down in the corners anyway so it was just making sure that they don't pass me on the straights.
 
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