Natural or Modern?

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Which type of medicine would you be most willing to purchase?

  • Modern scientifically-proven medicine such as synthetic chemicals manufactured in the form of pills

    Votes: 22 50.0%

  • Traditional natural medicine such as herbs, oils, and animal products such as powdered horns

    Votes: 2 4.5%

  • A mixture of both types of medicine

    Votes: 16 36.4%

  • None at all

    Votes: 4 9.1%
  • Total voters
    44
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Condraz23

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Hey everyone.

Perhaps you've got an illness and you are seeking to buy some medicine. Would you choose to purchase traditional stuff such as herbs or modern scientific stuff such as pills and injections?

Natural medecine...

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Modern medecine...

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I'm only asking this because there seems to be a huge boost of popularity in recent times for medicine that is "natural".
 
A mixture of both as needed. I see "natural" medicine as nutritionary, whereas drugs are just drugs.
 
I'm more partial towards modern medicine. After all, it's modern medicine which has increased the average human lifetime...

Edit: It's ironic you posted a picture of a CT scan, seeing as I just got back from one. ;)
 
If you call Vitamin C "medicine" then I'd go for a mixture of both. But nobody calls it medicine, so I prefer the tested-and-it-works stuff. Everything synthetic has to start with something natural anyway, it just becomes more focused, concetrated, and effective. With maybe a little eye-twitching here and there, but it'll go away.
 
Shannon
I'm more partial towards modern medicine. After all, it's modern medicine which has increased the average human lifetime...
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Really? That's curious. Most of the people that I've ever known who lived for more than 100 years were living in areas where natural remedies were more available than modern ones; e.g: Rural areas such as small poor towns and villages that are practically isolated from anything else.

They have also claimed that their "secret" was to eat 100% natural food such as vegetables and fruits. This is where natural nutritives come into play.

Unfortunately like I said before, these were comments that people made to the media when they were being interviewd. Thus, I have no concrete proof on this. :indiff:




Ciao!
 
I use what works, period. If an herb just so happens to work better than a pill, then I’ll take the herb. But if a pill works better than an herb (which is often the case), then I’ll take that. Quite frankly, I think it’s rather silly to even make any distinction between the two – in the end, both are made up of molecules (one just happens to be bonded by nature, the other happens to be bonded in a lab – molecular bonds are still the same, no matter what the setting), so what difference does it make? Use what works. It’s like asking if wood or plastic is better – make your decision based on what’s proven to work better for the application, not whether or not one’s more “natural”.
 
Ozzy.
Really? That's curious. Most of the people that I've ever known who lived for more than 100 years were living in areas where natural remedies were more available than modern ones; e.g: Rural areas such as small poor towns and villages that are practically isolated from anything else.
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Well, how long was the average human life before we had immunizations and all those other illnesses that were untreable/preventable before modern medicine? And life expectancy is only increasing as we find new cures and medicines, so modern medicine has to be doing something right...

They have also claimed that their "secret" was to eat 100% natural food such as vegetables and fruits. This is where natural nutritives come into play.
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That goes without saying. Eat healthy = strong immune system. And people with strong immune systems are less likely to get ill. Eating healthy isn't a cure for an illness though...
 
Ozzy.
Really? That's curious. Most of the people that I've ever known who lived for more than 100 years were living in areas where natural remedies were more available than modern ones; e.g: Rural areas such as small poor towns and villages that are practically isolated from anything else.
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They might've practiced natural medicine, but they also weren't shoving high fructose corn syrup and partially hydrogenated oils into their mouths at every meal.
 
Shannon
Well, how long was the average human life before we had immunizations and all those other illnesses that were untreable/preventable before modern medicine? And life expectancy is only increasing as we find new cures and medicines, so modern medicine has to be doing something right...

I'm not saying they aren't. But their remedies have side effects too and remember that every body is different. A natural remedy will most likely work out better on a bigger percentage of people who consume it.

That goes without saying. Eat healthy = strong immune system. And people with strong immune systems are less likely to get ill. Eating healthy isn't a cure for an illness though...
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Well, I mentioned their eating habits as a co-relation between eating naturally and eating "food" with other components in it; that goes with modern medicine. As you may read in the back instructions about side effects due to other substances included in it, a natural remedy like "dried prunes" that help fight constipation, have only one effect.
And as you stated above, people who eat healthy tend to have a stronger immune system, well, these people learn the benefits of eating natural products, and therefore, it makes them try other ways of getting around a disease. Like my father for instance: He always ate healthy stuff, always. And everytime my bronchitis started coming back, the only 2 thing he told me I should take were: Plain garlic or Codfish oil. I never listened to him until 2 years ago when I finally tried it.

It worked in a heart beat.

And there are many other examples I could give you but let's get back in the central point.

Sage
make your decision based on what’s proven to work better for the application, not whether or not one’s more “natural”.
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I completely agree with this statement. Though I've stated that natural medicine can be quite a rival to modern one, I accept that I mostly use the most reachable one, which is the modern of course, but everybody should look up or investigate a little on what other alternatives are out there to fight thei illness.

Omnis
They might've practiced natural medicine, but they also weren't shoving high fructose corn syrup and partially hydrogenated oils into their mouths at every meal.
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They don't need to. That's what you read in the ingredient listed on the back of the seal. People who reside in a vegetated are without these kind of medicine, eat the whole product. I don't think it doesn't do any bad either :)




Ciao!
 
Natural until they don't work, then it's off to the Doc with my HMO card in hand....
 
Sage
Quite frankly, I think it’s rather silly to even make any distinction between the two.
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I agree.

That said, I’m more likely to take a pill, because it’s easier to get.
 
Ozzy.
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Like my father for instance: He always ate healthy stuff, always. And everytime my bronchitis started coming back, the only 2 thing he told me I should take were: Plain garlic or Codfish oil. I never listened to him until 2 years ago when I finally tried it.

It worked in a heart beat.

And there are many other examples I could give you but let's get back in the central point.
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Oh, I'm not saying that natural remedies don't work. I'm just saying that I'd trust modern medicine after all the wonders its done in the short amount of time its been around.

And I can be pretty sure a drug a team of scientists spent years researching and testing will work. Natural remedies on the other hand are just something someone tried one day and said "Hey, that works!". It could've been a placebo for all I know...
 
Well, I have been having bad heart burn lately and the "typical" heart burn medicines have been working ok, but not to the extent that I would like. So I'm branching out to some more "natural" cures. One site on the internet claimed a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar works wonders... Tried that and I have never had such painful heart burn in my life! :ouch: not to mention the taste was horrid :yuck:
I then tried Peppermint oil tea. This seems to be a much tastier route and actually is working ok. comparable to the manufactured cures.

but all in all I tend lean toward man-made drugs :D
 
i think one should distinguish between horns of animals which are supposed to do something and are sold at unbelievable prices and some natural herbs which can be proven to cure something.

if some natural stuff is known to help just like some artificial product then i'd prefer the natural...
 
If a natural remedy is good enough, science will extract, purify and enhance before too long...

After all, would you rather eat four slices of mouldy bread, or pop a 250mg penicillin tablet?

If I've got cancer, I'll be opting for the resection and adjuvant chemo/radiotherapy - licking a frog isn't on my radar. AIDS? I'll take the triple antiviral over snorting mussel mucus.
 
As a person with multiple heart defects, medicinally controlled heart failure, epilepsy, ulcerative colitis, and sleep apnea I think I am sticking to the modern medicines. I have yet to see a natural supplement that has the same effect as digitek or captopril. Tigers eyes don't seem to be as effective as Tegretol. Aside from beer I have yet to find a truly effective natural product that works like a diuretic, although beer isn't actually creating a negative extracellular fluid balance.
 
i think that you should mix the two possibilities. because none of them can heal all deseases, but together i think you can heal nearly everything.

viper
 
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i think that you should mix the two possibilities. because none of them can heal all deseases, but together i think you can heal nearly everything.

viper
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That sounds good, but do you know how many herbal supplements and things I shouldn't take with my medicines? If you mix you have to check with the pharmacist first or you could just end up counteracting the effects of one are causing a bad reaction.
 
Strictly speaking, everthing is natural because man is natural. Just like a bird's nest is a natural phenomenon, so is a freeway and an office building.

There is nothing unnatural about modern medicine. But it is synthetic (as opposed to biological).

That being said, I'll take the folks who have done the research and testing over anecdotal evidence based on temporal proximity.
 
If a home remedy has been proven to work, I'd sooner take that than pumping myself full of chemicals in the pursuit of health.
 
ultrabeat
If a home remedy has been proven to work, I'd sooner take that than pumping myself full of chemicals in the pursuit of health.
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That's the problem with home remedies. Most haven't been properly tested, and the ones that have are now being turned into a modern medicine.

For example (using one Famine brought up earlier): It was an old wives tale that if you had an infected wound you should put moldy bread on it and it would stop the infection. Once tested we find that moldy bread creates penicillin, which I can now take in a convenient pill form and I don't look nearly as silly as a guy with a loaf of bread strapped to his arm.
 
FoolKiller
That's the problem with home remedies. Most haven't been properly tested, and the ones that have are now being turned into a modern medicine.

For example (using one Famine brought up earlier): It was an old wives tale that if you had an infected wound you should put moldy bread on it and it would stop the infection. Once tested we find that moldy bread creates penicillin, which I can now take in a convenient pill form and I don't look nearly as silly as a guy with a loaf of bread strapped to his arm.
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I mean basically that if both were available (and it was not a foodstuff strapped to your arm), I'd rather take the natural solution, purely on face value of me knowing what it is.
 
ultrabeat
I mean basically that if both were available (and it was not a foodstuff strapped to your arm), I'd rather take the natural solution, purely on face value of me knowing what it is.
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So, you would eat moldy bread before taking a pill? :yuck:
 
Honestly, I'd rather just not take anything. If I have to take something (such as antibiotics for strep throat) then I will. I'm even reluctant to take cough drops. I once had some allergy medicine that my doctor gave me (Zyrtec I think) and it worked like a magic pill, for the first day.

I took some natural remedy that cures a toothache (willow bark, I'm 99% sure) and it did absolutely nothing.

So I say, just bedrest is the best thing in most small sicknesses.

But if it was something like say cancer, give me the radiation.
 
Mixture.

For examply, Tea tree oil works great at clearing your nose. I'd prefer that to spraying some stuff up my nose.

But then again, I'd rather take an aspririn than have my head sawn open just because I have a headache.
 
Nosespray is the most worthless crap ever made. Usually I feel worse after using it.
 
I usually don't take anything if I am sick...

...just fluids and rest, hasn't failed me for about 5-6 years yet! (I do go in for regular checkups ;))
 

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