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zeneleven
I just want to ask for help.

I love playing racing games, i know the basics such as accelerating,

braking, turning left and right, overtaking, upgrading cars performance by

just clicking Purchase and installing them, is enough for me to win some

beginner's races.

But not enough to compete with skilled drivers. I know what is HP, PP,

RPM stands for, but i admit that i dont fully understand them.

If theres anyone that can explain to me, in simplest form. Seeing the

threads here discussing Tuning, Races with PP system or HP system,

and the adjustments for better performance, is really driving me crazy. I

have read some and suddenly I'm lost. Where should i start? What are

the things should i be learning first? What I must be doing?

I'm really interested and I'm willing to learn and I'm willing to listen. Anyone

is welcome. Thank you so much and I everything will be greatly

appreciate. :)
 
wait a minute, im not a Japanese dude, english please :D
 
That’s a pretty broad question to answer. From what you said, it sounds like the main thing you need to work on is actual driving.

Have you done any License Tests? If not, try it. You don’t need to do them for anything, but you can learn a lot of basic things from them. The core of driving is the racing line and when to brake and accelerate. The rest (tuning, etc) are just details.

I found a good post a while back that may help: 12 Things to Make You Faster. I especially recommend turning off all driving aids (Skid Recovery Force, things like that): they tend to hide your mistakes from you, making you think you’re driving well when you’re not, which can be a hard habit to break.
Likewise, practice with Comfort Hard tires (the least-grippy kind): at its core, racing is about traction management, and having little traction will force you to manage it well, and give you a better idea of where the limits are... which will make you a better driver on better tires too!

It’ll be hard to drive that way, but keep practicing, and you’ll start getting a feel for what will happen and how to deal with them, and you’ll get better faster than you might think! 👍

One thing I like doing for fun, but which can be useful for practice: do races on random tracks in Arcade mode, especially while using Comfort Hard tires. (The game will scale back the opposing drivers a bit to compensate for such weak tires.) Don’t worry too much about winning or losing, but do race. You’ll learn the tracks, you’ll get more immediate feedback on what works and what doesn’t (for example, if you start catching up to the other cars, you’re doing something better than you were!), and you’ll get a lot of practical experience from it.

When I was new to the game (just a couple months ago!), I would buy all upgrades (ECU tuning, turbochargers, Racing Soft tires, etc) for my cars, but nowadays I rarely do. The best part a car can have is a good driver.

What control setup do you use? If you use a regular PS3 controller (DualShock 3) – like I do – you may want to change the default control setup: personally, I use R2 for acceleration and L2 for braking, which give a more full and accessible range of control than the face buttons (X, Square, etc), for finer control of speed. Some people use the right thumbstick for those things (up=accelerate, down=brake), which can work well too. Try different things.

Of course, if you have a wheel (and people here will certainly encourage you to get one!), all the better.

But in the end, practice is the most important thing. Run races, try different things, think about what’s going on and what you could do differently, then try it. If there’s any particular things that you’re struggling with, that keep bothering you, focus on those, or ask about them here. Keep fixing one thing at a time, and before you know it, you’ll be a lot further down the road than where you started. 👍
 
MistyRainne
That’s a pretty broad question to answer. From what you said, it sounds like the main thing you need to work on is actual driving.

Have you done any License Tests? If not, try it. You don’t need to do them for anything, but you can learn a lot of basic things from them. The core of driving is the racing line and when to brake and accelerate. The rest (tuning, etc) are just details.

I found a good post a while back that may help: 12 Things to Make You Faster. I especially recommend turning off all driving aids (Skid Recovery Force, things like that): they tend to hide your mistakes from you, making you think you’re driving well when you’re not, which can be a hard habit to break.
Likewise, practice with Comfort Hard tires (the least-grippy kind): at its core, racing is about traction management, and having little traction will force you to manage it well, and give you a better idea of where the limits are... which will make you a better driver on better tires too!

It’ll be hard to drive that way, but keep practicing, and you’ll start getting a feel for what will happen and how to deal with them, and you’ll get better faster than you might think! 👍

One thing I like doing for fun, but which can be useful for practice: do races on random tracks in Arcade mode, especially while using Comfort Hard tires. (The game will scale back the opposing drivers a bit to compensate for such weak tires.) Don’t worry too much about winning or losing, but do race. You’ll learn the tracks, you’ll get more immediate feedback on what works and what doesn’t (for example, if you start catching up to the other cars, you’re doing something better than you were!), and you’ll get a lot of practical experience from it.

When I was new to the game (just a couple months ago!), I would buy all upgrades (ECU tuning, turbochargers, Racing Soft tires, etc) for my cars, but nowadays I rarely do. The best part a car can have is a good driver.

What control setup do you use? If you use a regular PS3 controller (DualShock 3) – like I do – you may want to change the default control setup: personally, I use R2 for acceleration and L2 for braking, which give a more full and accessible range of control than the face buttons (X, Square, etc), for finer control of speed. Some people use the right thumbstick for those things (up=accelerate, down=brake), which can work well too. Try different things.

Of course, if you have a wheel (and people here will certainly encourage you to get one!), all the better.

But in the end, practice is the most important thing. Run races, try different things, think about what’s going on and what you could do differently, then try it. If there’s any particular things that you’re struggling with, that keep bothering you, focus on those, or ask about them here. Keep fixing one thing at a time, and before you know it, you’ll be a lot further down the road than where you started. 👍
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- cool, thanks for that bro, thats a great idea. by the way, im using supersports3x racing wheel, because its cheaper compared to those driving force GT and others, but now, im realizing that it would be better if i chose the others.

Actually, this is the second time that im playing Gran Turismo, the first was in Gran Turismo (Playstation 1), i stopped and played Need for speeds series, and in that game, i think i do well, i often use break, more of the handbreak, and that suites me well, and got bored. But when i tried Gran Turismo 5, it surprises me for their big difference, and adjustments needed to done.

Ive tried license test once, actually, i just got the game less than a week now. One thing that i dont like in this game though is that, for example, in the beginner series, its mixed, some race series i need to have other type of cars, classic in particular which i dont preferred having hehe

I just want to be a better driver, have a great car, for me to be able to compete online, it will be more interesting right? and exciting.

So now, practice practice.

Anyone who wants to race with me online? friendly game only, i'm not that competitive yet.
 
You could also think about joining the WRS. Its a weekly racing series that also has weekly time trials. There is beginners all the way up to the top drivers that participate. Its a great learning experience and everyone is very helpful. In about 8 months I went from a D4 Bronze driver up to my current D3 Gold status. I'll post some links here so you can check it out.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=180298

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=153734

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=173747
 
thanks thanks thanks.. i'll check it out...
 
zeneleven
- cool, thanks for that bro
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Sure thing, sis! :rolleyes:

in that game, i think i do well, i often use break, more of the handbreak, and that suites me well
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About the only thing I use the handbrake for in GT5 is crossing the finish line with a flourish. :lol: If driving properly, you should never need it. Racing is actually rather slow and methodical, and I can’t really think of any situation where using the handbrake is a better option than braking properly and using all your traction, along the racing line. It’s certainly more fun to slide around! But you lose a lot of speed that way too, and that’s not so fun.

One thing that i dont like in this game though is that, for example, in the beginner series, its mixed, some race series i need to have other type of cars, classic in particular which i dont preferred having hehe
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I know exactly what you mean: it calls for you to be interested in things you’re not interested in. I feel the same way; I’m not much of a car gal myself, not as interested in the cars themselves, but in other things. (Although I do find myself getting attached to various makes/models as I go along and get to know them. :lol:)

However, you’re not required to do A-Spec events, so just do the ones you like and don’t worry about the others. (In fact, you’re not really required to do anything in GT5: it’s more of a big wide open sandbox for you to play in, and things like A-Spec are just there to give you something to do, give some structure to the experience.)

In fact, A-Spec events pay very little XP and credits: for those, you’re much better off trying Seasonal Events, which pay handsomely and are repeatable. I’m already at A-Spec level 29 (higher than I have any right to be, frankly), largely because of those. Some of the A-Spec events have corresponding Seasonal events (“FF Challenge”, “Lightweight K Cup”, etc), and the Seasonals pay much better.

Using “FF Challenge” as an example: You get around 4,000 credits for winning a race in the A-Spec version, and around 400,000 for doing so in the Seasonal version... and you get a bonus if you can do so with lower PP than what it allows. You get more XP too, in the same way. You don’t even have to win the race to earn XP/credits. In fact, getting last place in the Seasonal version probably pays better than winning the A-Spec version! :odd:
 
MistyRainne
Sure thing, sis! :rolleyes:


About the only thing I use the handbrake for in GT5 is crossing the finish line with a flourish. :lol: If driving properly, you should never need it. Racing is actually rather slow and methodical, and I can’t really think of any situation where using the handbrake is a better option than braking properly and using all your traction, along the racing line. It’s certainly more fun to slide around! But you lose a lot of speed that way too, and that’s not so fun.


I know exactly what you mean: it calls for you to be interested in things you’re not interested in. I feel the same way; I’m not much of a car gal myself, not as interested in the cars themselves, but in other things. (Although I do find myself getting attached to various makes/models as I go along and get to know them. :lol:)

However, you’re not required to do A-Spec events, so just do the ones you like and don’t worry about the others. (In fact, you’re not really required to do anything in GT5: it’s more of a big wide open sandbox for you to play in, and things like A-Spec are just there to give you something to do, give some structure to the experience.)

In fact, A-Spec events pay very little XP and credits: for those, you’re much better off trying Seasonal Events, which pay handsomely and are repeatable. I’m already at A-Spec level 29 (higher than I have any right to be, frankly), largely because of those. Some of the A-Spec events have corresponding Seasonal events (“FF Challenge”, “Lightweight K Cup”, etc), and the Seasonals pay much better.

Using “FF Challenge” as an example: You get around 4,000 credits for winning a race in the A-Spec version, and around 400,000 for doing so in the Seasonal version... and you get a bonus if you can do so with lower PP than what it allows. You get more XP too, in the same way. You don’t even have to win the race to earn XP/credits. In fact, getting last place in the Seasonal version probably pays better than winning the A-Spec version! :odd:
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- sorry for calling you bro, sis :D

yeah drifting is awesome, but playing gt5 is way too different, i dont use handbrake at all haha

thanks for the info, like to play with you guys sometime ;-)
 
zeneleven
wait a minute, im not a Japanese dude, english please :D
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Haha well sorry I clicked your name and it said you were located in Japan, with the sentence spacing I thought you had used a translator :D .. My bad. Hopefully these other people have been able to help you out though since I went to bed after posting that 👍
 
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