need help on awd drift

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hi, im new to gtplanet, and i gotta say, this site is awesome. I learned so much about gt3 that i thought never can be done.

But anyways, i cant seem to drift very good with awd, i can drift rwd fine, but i cant seem to initiate the lost of traction of the back wheel wif awd. what do you guys do when you drift with awd? do you use e-brake?

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well... before u all the other experienced members swarm u and Yelll at you to search, which you should. I'll give u some tips. The techniques used in drifting fr are different from 4wd. W/ 4 wheel drive cars, you want to dive into the corner from high into the turn, and turn in hard. You shouldnt need to countersteer at all, not even to come out of the turn (like i've seen in many videos :yuck: ) Well, tecnique also varies from car to car. The r32 doesnt really require countersteering but all the later generations do sometimes. The subarus tend to understeer compared to the evos, so you can be much more aggressive w/ ur steering. I suggest. working on drifting a subaru STi, evo 7, and r33 skyline gtr to understand what i mean. do a a lap or 2 w/ each car going as fast as possible stock w/ sim tires, then adjust the vcd. You can easily adjust the LSD if your familiar w/ that to make wheelspin happen more.


lol, just dont countersteer, dive into the corners like ur trying to kill urself. 👍
And i suggest learning to drift w/ out using the ebreak... theres really no need for it. since accidentally shifting weight in gt3 is damn near impossible, unless u really are new. but i suggest no HB!!!
 
Gabkicks
well... before u all the other experienced members swarm u and Yelll at you to search, which you should. I'll give u some tips. The techniques used in drifting fr are different from 4wd. W/ 4 wheel drive cars, you want to dive into the corner from high into the turn, and turn in hard. You shouldnt need to countersteer at all, not even to come out of the turn (like i've seen in many videos :yuck: ) Well, tecnique also varies from car to car. The r32 doesnt really require countersteering but all the later generations do sometimes. The subarus tend to understeer compared to the evos, so you can be much more aggressive w/ ur steering. I suggest. working on drifting a subaru STi, evo 7, and r33 skyline gtr to understand what i mean. do a a lap or 2 w/ each car going as fast as possible stock w/ sim tires, then adjust the vcd. You can easily adjust the LSD if your familiar w/ that to make wheelspin happen more.


lol, just dont countersteer, dive into the corners like ur trying to kill urself. 👍
And i suggest learning to drift w/ out using the ebreak... theres really no need for it. since accidentally shifting weight in gt3 is damn near impossible, unless u really are new. but i suggest no HB!!!
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Part of its right, part of its wrong.
AWD doesn't really have the need to dive into corners at ridiculous feint motions to hold out the drifts. With proper tuning, AWD vehicles can, YES they can, oversteer while holding out drifts, which makes it alot easier to tackle some long corners. The R32, atleast mine, oversteers very well and can connect very long turns (ie. corner 3 to 4 into the tunnel in trial mountain)

final thoughts? It really comes down to going out there and discovering new things about your car. At first for me, AWD was very stubborn in oversteering, but now, with proper tuning, AWD vehicles have become very slippery. :sly:
 
i tune mine similar to rwd, but with greater numbers. my cars feel almost like rwd, except i don't spin out as much. give me your settings and i might be able to help you out.
 
Mine are setup for no countersteer. I usually do a slight feint motion, and brake while turning in, then give it gas to oversteer some.
 
ForcedInduction
Part of its right, part of its wrong.
AWD doesn't really have the need to dive into corners at ridiculous feint motions to hold out the drifts. With proper tuning, AWD vehicles can, YES they can, oversteer while holding out drifts, which makes it alot easier to tackle some long corners. The R32, atleast mine, oversteers very well and can connect very long turns (ie. corner 3 to 4 into the tunnel in trial mountain)

final thoughts? It really comes down to going out there and discovering new things about your car. At first for me, AWD was very stubborn in oversteering, but now, with proper tuning, AWD vehicles have become very slippery. :sly:
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I'm asking myself should I reply or not, espically since I'm not so familar with AWD's even with what I do know. I can see with what you mean with some AWDs, the R33 and Evo VII or so I've experienced with them do oversteer a bit, it's not unbelievable, GT2 broke the accidnetal fase belive I had though in GT1 that AWD cars could NEVER spin out, let alone oversteer... (don't ask just how in the hell I came to that conclusion...even though it would be nice ot play GT1 all over agian...)...they can oversteer yes.

I'm certain you could say the same, being experienced to FR more than ANYTHING, I feel that I have to pitch my car at higehr angles depneding on whatever 4WD I'm using, an EVO VII or a R33 is easier to pull into oversteer, I have yet to really try with the R32 or a few others (I've been experimenting with my Escort Rally car...though...) but I can see what you mean.

I think what Gabkicks meant...but I could be wrong despite some facts saying otherwise...was drifting with some cars that would behave like 'tradational' 4WD's or at least those based on a front-drive format or simply just those that like to understeer like all hell. It's most likley just me an my inexperience with some 4WD,s but with some of them, you do have to pitch them into deeper angles (least when you're not intrested in using the hand-brake, I know that a lot of people whom drift with 4WD's use them, sorry, this sounds like something form an idoit, I'm very certain it is...but the hand brake is really not my thing...much...very LITTLE if at ALL...) to keep traction loss long enough to do a proper drift that you would see in videos.

If you refer to tuning, it's a differnt story or as you had said. You can tune stuff such as the VCD and LCD so one way, you can probally make a 4WD be more related to an FR and just figure out other things.

I'm not entirely certain, I'll admit, I wish I could say more but 4WD's really not my field as far as drifting goes (even with a decent run around a rally course with an Escort rally...but that was rally...not on tarmac...), I'll have to look into it more myself...assuming I'll have the time and concentration for it anyway...

Most if not all of what you said is preaty right though, and yes, it does take a while to get used to (in theory in my case anyway...) and I'm assuming that before you know it, yes you can pull off some amaizing stuff with 4WDs.

Sorry if I sound like an echo or idot, either or a mix of both, till later...
 
Ok, please disregard most (if not all) that has been said so far....

AWD drifting is by far the easiest drivetrain to drift because there is very little going on durring the drift.... You can enter a turn many different ways (despite what some have told you)... You can feint, hard brake, lift off, etc.... The trick is throwing the car into the turn and when your nose is pointing in towards the apex (at NEARLY your desired angle) then straighten your wheels, hit the gas (moderate throttle to keep your revs high and keep your angle), then countersteer (while still on the throttle) to exit the drift... If you don't stay on the throttle when you countersteer you will spin out very easily.... Use the brakes and/or e-brake to adjust angle...

E-brake: to adjust angle without losing speed (and it will pull you more towards the outside)...
Foot brake: to adjust angle and slow down a bit (it will pull you more towards the inside)...

I will send you some good universal AWD settings that will work on any AWD car... They can be adjusted slightly for each individual cars strengths and weaknesses....

EDIT: fullmetalazn, check your PM's....


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silviadrifter
I will send you some good universal AWD settings that will work on any AWD car... They can be adjusted slightly for each individual cars strengths and weaknesses....
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Would you mind sharing the wealth? I've been trying to figure out how you did that video. I can drift without countersteer at all(not even to straighten out) sometimes, but it's very hard, and the car is usually going pretty slow.

Some settings with zero counter in mind would help a lot. :sly:
 
VQuick
Would you mind sharing the wealth? I've been trying to figure out how you did that video. I can drift without countersteer at all(not even to straighten out) sometimes, but it's very hard, and the car is usually going pretty slow.

Some settings with zero counter in mind would help a lot. :sly:
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It ain't the settings, its the line you take to make that drift.
 
tuning 4 wheel drive cars to oversteer isnt very hard... just adjust the LSD and VCD to your liking and AYC. but i think its more rewarding to drift more effeciently going for big angle in the beginning. But maybe im just brainwashed by Initial D... THere are tons of setups on GTP, just search. You dont have to use someone's exact setup. but it will give you ideas on how to tune your own car. 👍
 
nightkids4ever
It ain't the settings, its the line you take to make that drift.
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Your right, race line is even more important for making your drifts smoother than in rwd cars. But more drastic tuning can take care of that also. but then your drifts end up being slower unless you add more power...
I'm not saying anyone does, but i've noticed a lot of people try to drift before they become really good at grip driving(knowing race line and correct speeds to take corners at,breaking, weightshifting,etc...)
 
heres a great tip(not to be rude)" just practice!!!its better you figure out ur own skills and lines that YOU want to take not the lines others tell you...so slap on some sims and start drifting"
 

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