Hey Alex,
First of all, thank you very much for taking the time to respond — I genuinely appreciate it. It helps me better understand the perception you and others might have, and I’ll definitely take that into account in my future posts and forum interactions.
I don’t speak from a position of deep experience, but rather from the perspective of someone early in their learning curve. I pay close attention to what more experienced players — like yourself — have to say.
To be clear, I’m not making excuses or blaming my slower progress on using a controller. It’s a deliberate choice, purely driven by comfort. I just can’t get over the idea of having a large setup with lots of cables dominating my room. That said, I do take comfort in seeing how many people are incredibly fast with a controller.
My comparison between controller and wheel was simply to highlight that some results are achieved differently depending on the input method. For example, I recently struggled with the Master IA-10 Licence test. I haven’t managed to gold it yet — my best attempt was just 0.029 off. I reached out to a few controller players who had completed it, and they described it as “a nightmare and torture.” Apparently, some sections — like the mini Karussell — just can’t be approached in the same way as with a wheel. That made me reflect on how different input methods sometimes require different gears, braking points, and cornering techniques.
Another example is race starts. As a controller player, acceleration can be slower due to input filtering that dulls the initial throttle response. That’s why I asked if there’s something I could be doing better in that area.
Where I fully agree with you is that the fundamentals of getting fast remain the same: mastering the track, braking points, acceleration, coasting, turning, and so on.
I’ve also heard that trail braking is more difficult to learn on a controller — which might explain why it’s taking me some time to get it right.
Ultimately, I’m not looking for excuses. My only goal is to learn from faster players. It obviously helps when they also use a controller, since it allows me to learn within the same context and limitations.
Thanks again for your insight — it really does help.
While i can't provide you with any hints on your current challenge, i want to say this:
As much as i appreciate your quick progress in the game, the constant talk about (and excuses) about the advantage of wheel users really doesn't help. Most of us are at a progress level where the last tenth is not the question. It's still seconds to the top.
So as long as there are players on controller in the top hundred in Gran Turismo the difference between controller and wheel is absolutely insignificant for us mortals.
Don't take this the wrong way but i have the feeling that you should get that "concept of limitation" out of your head.
Less nice: For Christ's sake, get a wheel or stop whining.
