NEW GT5 Pro-Am

[sytfu]

7 series championship.


Ok, so here's the situation. GT5 users tend to always use the weaker compund tire to drift on, because its so much easier to do, BUT there is a world of people on this game that like higher skilled drifting. There tends to be many rooms that only allow you to use comfort hard tires, so alot of us stay out of these rooms. then, when we make our own rooms people with comfort hards come into the room and totally slow down the pace and fun of the close, highspeed, realistic tandem. Currently there is no fix for this... why you may ask? the people at PD figured it would be better to upward limit and not limit downward.... that seriously makes no sense. Typically comfort hard drifters try to make claims that they can hold more angle and maintain that sport drivers cant... well this is the time to put your money where your mouth is. Time to show and prove.


Long story short, I am trying to develop a leauge in a pro-am sense. This is a competition, the competition will be ran in typical fashion 1 lead 1 follow, 1 tie breaker if needed (3 lap race) on a full course situation for all laps. All of the courses used in this 7 round series will be the "mini" configurations, or the smaller variation of the larger course, or short courses. Yes, you read right... full laps.



Rules: Run what you brung, the only limit on the cars will be a horse power level. (600hp) this hp level will allow users the freedom to tune a car such as the AE86 and not have to worry about being left behind by a viper. since you have the freedom to tune your car however, if there is a user that wants to severely detune a zr1 or a viper... well so be it. all cars will be FR drivetrain. NO awd allowed.



Tires: The ceiling will be sport mediums, but run wat you brung means exactly that, if you feel you are more comfortable on comfort hards.... well do so, but; your opponent might be on sport mediums and remember.... drifting isnt all about the leading lap, you have to chase too. In the same sense, if you see your opponent is on comfort hard tires and you are on sports, you need to give yourself the room to make the attack at the exit of every corner. You will not be judged on spacing going into corners, but if you do not close the gap before the corners exit, you will be judged against. In the case that both laps go to a descision, or it is a tie after 2 laps, both drivers will pit. the judges will choose a specific tire choice and you both drivers will go out on the chosen tires and compete a battle lap ( touge drift rules )
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Judging: Line, Speed, Angle, and style just as all real drift events are judged. Deductions will be placed when a lead driver is obviously trying to hinder the follower or chase driver (comfort hard drivers going as slow as they possibly can thruought the course, sport drivers going slow up to the initiation of the corner then blasting off to leave the comfort user. break checking etc.) Deductions will be placed when either driver goes off of course, or touches more than 1 wheel off (1 being ok). Deductions will be placed when agressive initiations are wavered and not held thruought the turn (trying to backwards entry, then completely understeering, then re-initiation of the drift) Deductions will be placed when a driver spins or totally looses all drifts beyond shadow of doubt. If you are drifting the straight and accidentally hit the wall while doing a dori/manji to link 2 turns spaced by a straight, you will be deducted if you loose the drift, if you drag the wall or "wall ride" and it looks to be excecuted smoothly, this will give you the style advantage aswell as show your control and precision. All judging will be D1 style (5 to 5 advantage player 1/2 or a clear descision being 6 to 4 advantage player 1/2) the entire track needs to be attacked at speed. No slowing down to a crawl in any of the sections of the course. The lead car needs to go at the pace him or her is comfortable drifting at. those that do not link the entire course (straight aways) you are not going to be deducted against, but you will be deducted against if you do not initiate at a reasonable location in the braking zone... (that will be determined per track). there will only be 2 judges, the judges are not allowed to speak their descisions, but instead you will clearly type your descisions in the comment boxes. Judges are free to do commentary, but not free to pass judgment over the mic communications.


elidgeable vehicles: all cars and trucks with FR drivetrain.



this is a pro-am and will be treated as such. you run what you are comfortable in, you will be judged on a non bias level, no consideration will be given for vehicle and equipment. if you set foot on the track with it, you are expected to drive it to the highest capabilities.




pro-am will start after we fill 14 spots. your PSN should be posted here and you will be messaged the Room #'s when the event date is up.



ALL EVENTS WILL HAVE PERMANENT DAMAGE. ALL COMPETITION DATES WILL FALL ON A WEEKEND DAY, PREFERABLY SATURDAY NIGHT. 1 JUDGE MAY BE CHOSEN FROM GT PLANET, JUST TO REASSURE JUDGING IS FAIR, I WILL POST COMPETITION DATE AND COMPETITORS PSN 1 WEEK BEFORE EVENT DAY.

***NO CASH PRIZES ARE OFFERED IN THESE EVENTS***


GTPro-am Spots:
1. PSN: Lizardsoup
2. PSN: O9KRattlehead
3. PSN: monsterGAUZ
4. PSN: Stavingo
5. PSN: Lazy Liquid
6. PSN: zedfonsie
7. PSN: klevrah
8. PSN: saikoa
9. PSN: BNRDRIFTMAFIA
10. PSN: LJ2281
11. PSN: HSQ_PREZ_BLIZZEL
12. PSN: Darkrage1138
13. PSN: IgniterKing
14. PSN: DaHammas510

EVENT CLOSED ALL SPOTS FILLED, ALL COMPETITORS WILL BE CONTACTED VIA PSN FOR EVENT DATES QUALIFYING SPECIFICS ETC...


Track list by rounds.

Round 1. Suzuka Circuit East Course

Round 2. Cape Ring Inside

Round 3. Autumn Ring Mini

Round 4. Grand Valley East Section / Reverse

Round 5. Special Stage Clubman 5

Round 6. Tsukuba Circuit

Round 7. Cape Ring South

 

[JrDarknes]

Not to burst your bubble but no one is going to join because this forum is filled with comfort hard tire people like me >_>. But yea, when my friend invites me to Japanese drift contests, there all using sports tires and there still tandeming. I asked my friend to ask them why they use sports and they said because its more of a challenge.

Good luck though

 

[zedfonsie]

It's not an opinion that sport drivers don't get as much angle as a ch driver. It's a fact, but honestly. I really doubt anyone is going to show up to this, its quite pointless if I'm completely honest.

Also, the other reason this is pointless is because you can't tandem ch with sport tires. The sport tires guy will hit the ch drifter because sport tires people drift so fast.

Also if you want to prove sports hard people get more angle, post a video... That's really it.

Infact, I forgot this video.

 

[Chocobos]

Please don't turn this thread into a tire discussion. There are many people here that don't enter any of the "established" tournaments because they don't want to run CH tires.

I'm down to give this a shot.

PSN: Lizardsoup

 

[sytfu]

if all you are worried about is angle... keep drifting fun by all means. if formula D was all about slow angled runs it would be done in the winter, during the rain, on a skidpad.


that is not the debate.


this is for various style setups to compete head to head. Competition pro-am style.




this is an example of the type of full course runs you will be up against. if you feel comfort can compare, by all means go for it. join up. get something from it. 100 bucks is the outcome of proving your setup is superior to all you encounter in the 7 round series. the winner will get all runs posted on a separate youtube page. this is getting a good response on facebook and if the league fills prior to any of you posting your psn up, then it is what it is.

Also, the other reason this is pointless is because you can't tandem ch with sport tires. The sport tires guy will hit the ch drifter because sport tires people drift so fast.

Also if you want to prove sports hard people get more angle, post a video... That's really it.

Infact, I forgot this video.

Fact, I tandem vs weaker tire options all the time. Infact I do it well... it takes alot of control to do, and it typically doesnt show up in the drivers arsenal from a comfort hard driver, this only comes from practice on a GOOD tire.

Oh and about the angle....



You were saying?

 

[monsterGAUZ]

Comfort tires in GT5 are supposed to be like street tires in RL
Sport tires in GT5 are supposed to be like semi slicks in RL
Race tires in GT5 are supposed to be like racing slicks in RL

There is no RL drift competition that allows other tires than those with a street tire tread, fact.
So if you really want to start this set the limit to comfort softs. Then I might think about trying this out. The basic idea isn't that bad I must say but keep it real... AE86 on comfort hard vs a Viper on sports soft?!

The speed differences between c soft and hard are big enough, so atleast keep it street tires like it should be.
Oh and please stop this ''drifting with better tires takes more skill blabla''. Try to reach the level of c hard drifters on c hards and tell me if you still think the same way.
An example: Fuji D1 around the 300R. In RL they initiate at ~180kmh, same with c hards in GT5




You could slide any car at this angle even if you are using racing softs as long as you are just going aggressive enough at the entrance. We are talking about permanent angle during the whole turn

 

[zedfonsie]

Fact, I tandem vs weaker tire options all the time. Infact I do it well... it takes alot of control to do, and it typically doesnt show up in the drivers arsenal from a comfort hard driver, this only comes from practice on a GOOD tire.

You were saying?

I would be amazed if your telling the truth, EVERY lobby with drivers on sports tires always hit me, and If you are actually tandeming with a guy on a sports tire and other on a comfort tire you wouldn't be getting very close you would also be always pulling the e-brake.

P.S, I'd love to see you tandem with me while im on ch tires.

P.P.S A reverse entry isn't evidence of getting angle..

Oh yes, I forgot about skill. Sports tires don't take any more skill then comfort tires, its all about learning. If you really think they take more skill, If I went into a public lobby and asked why are you drifting sport tires I bet most of them do cause comfort tires it is too easy to spin.

P.P.P.S did you ask jordan (the site owner) if you are given permission for cash prizes?

 

[Benmastaw00t]

If professionals use CH tires, I had no idea tires like Nitto NT01's were CH in real life, even though they are clearly performance tires used by some Formula D teams. GASP!

Also, I may be down for this. PSN is O9KRattlehead

 

[Chocobos]

Well, guess I'm going to go record a video of my runs in cars with different tires..

 

[zedfonsie]

There is no such thing as these "tire types" that gt5 has. Also gt5 has poor tire model which is proven while racing. Infact, gt5 has bad physics altogether.

Also, nitto nt01's can't be compared to ch in this game. Formula D is stupid nowadays, all the people run is ls engines in there "shells"

 

[monsterGAUZ]

There is no such thing as these "tire types" that gt5 has. Also gt5 has poor tire model which is proven while racing. Infact, gt5 has bad physics altogether.

Also, nitto nt01's can't be compared to ch in this game. In fact formula D is garbage anyways they care more about speed then angle.

Fredric Aasbo is the one and only person who actually makes me watch FD. Norwegian drift style is insane

 

[SeanWelland]

Money prizes are against GTP Forum rules.

 

[playnthru]

No tire in GT5 is "like real life".

If your not joining the OP comp.. Flame your tire wars elsewhere..

 

[sytfu]

ok guys, you definitely are trying to involve PERSONAL opinion instead of an ACTUAL fact. This thread WILL NOT be another ch vs the world thread. I am going to respond to a couple of your myths and that is it. i am no longer going to respond to this BS unless it is for event updates, or adding names to the list.

FACT #1. comfort tires are not like performance street tires IRL... comfort tires hold the same real world performance quality as to what comes on oem chrystler neons from 1997. Sport tires hold real performance street tire qualities... and i will explain this to you. sport hard tires, they initially feel good, but when they heat up, or slide.. they are basically harder to regain the traction needed for grip, lets say they are like Bridgestone RE050A's. i have real world drifting experience on these tires, and I can tell you first hand, this is the response i feel from this kind of tire in real life, and this is the response i feel from the sport hard tire on the game. the sport mediums would be like a MAXXIS MA-1 series tire... ok grip, but can break loose, but it is a bit easier to regain traction when you search for it. sport softs, those would be like the Z1 star specs, RT615's or the RS3's... have a higher tolerance for grip, when they let go the car needs speed to keep them broken loose, and tend to regain tracktion VERY fast, which in real life are exactly what FD vehicles look for in the tires they use. why is it that you guys find this hard to understand? drifting is an action sport, people would go to sleep if real drifting was like you guys try to depict on this video game. ok, ok, i understand you guys dont care for it... you want all your drifting to be as fake and slow and easy to control as it is on need for speed... why are you posting this BS in my thread?? if i went out in real life and put a set of continental all season radials on my competition car, i would go hurling off the track if i tried to operate at competition levels. there is a reason NONE of the cars in this game come on comfort hards, no NOT A 1... i have 900+ unique cars on this game, and the only one i found that came on something close, was comfort mediums, the 67' a10l, and a few of the older domestics.... the honda life van doesnt even come on those pieces of plastic. why must you guys insist on downgrading your upgraded cars to drift?

Edit: Not saying this is what these tires are, i am just stating the response you get from the tires, with the similarity to what i've experienced from different level tire response in real life. (god knows the next thing you guys will be claiming is that i said this is what these tires represent. i am only talking about response quality and recovery.)

FACT #2 I have friends, also I myself can navigate ANY course on those crappy comfort hard tires, and keep up with certain people on comfort soft, OR even sport hard tires. i have done it before. the fact that i dont care to frequent your CH competitions does not mean i dont know the first thing about drifting on your sacred trashy tires. you dont have to know me, nor be familiar with me, that does not mean what i am saying about my skill level is not valid. if you want to prove the point... join up and be shown on game day. you cannot measure what you do on a controller to what the highly skilled D1 competitors do on a track like Fuji in real life. I have ran that same configuration on my G27 and when utilizing the clutch, i have the same results. a close friend of mine that i drive with on GT5 has competed in 2010 D1 and can explain this concept to you, since studying youtube seems to have your concept of this course a bit misconstrued.

FACT #3 and this is the kicker... what the biggest problem i find with most comfort hard drifters, and this is the one that exposes all of your true downfalls in this skill level. you guys tandem and expect it not to be hard work. even when i tandem with a guy slower than me on the same compound tires... i get inches on their door, use a ton of handbrake, and alot of clutchkicks to keep the car as close as possible, and to maintain angle and drift. its no longer totally about the speed when following, simply because the lead car is now the clipping point. you guys are too used to pitching it in and banging the limiter and just having steering imputs to get the sense of why it is so much more fun and challenging to get a really good faster car tandem. if you have experienced a guy that can not control his speed and hits you in a tandem, well he needs to re-evaluate his skills. a bump or a nudge is fine aslong as it doesnt push you off line, but if it is a blatant hit, he isnt as good as he would like to be.

i am the chaser in all of these photos, there is video to validate that i did not touch on all of these runs, not just photo, this included a TON of handbrake, clutch kicking and throttle control. if you cant do it... dont hate on the fact that i and my friends can. basic rule in tandems, set up, initiate as close as possible, move in closer if you are able.... exit the corner on the lead drivers door. this is what i do in the real world, this is what i do on this video game, this is what i will no longer debate.


END RANT> this debate is over. either register yourself, or move along. this competition will move forward how it is structured. your belly aching about the rules will not change the rules, if you enter in the comp its your own funeral if you choose comfort hards, and your competition doesnt.

 

[zedfonsie]

ok guys, you definitely are trying to involve PERSONAL opinion instead of an ACTUAL fact. This thread WILL NOT be another ch vs the world thread. I am going to respond to a couple of your myths and that is it. i am no longer going to respond to this BS unless it is for event updates, or adding names to the list.

FACT #1. comfort tires are not like performance street tires IRL... comfort tires hold the same real world performance quality as to what comes on oem chrystler neons from 1997. Sport tires hold real performance street tire qualities... and i will explain this to you. sport hard tires, they initially feel good, but when they heat up, or slide.. they are basically harder to regain the traction needed for grip, lets say they are like Bridgestone RE050A's. i have real world drifting experience on these tires, and I can tell you first hand, this is the response i feel from this kind of tire in real life, and this is the response i feel from the sport hard tire on the game. the sport mediums would be like a MAXXIS MA-1 series tire... ok grip, but can break loose, but it is a bit easier to regain traction when you search for it. sport softs, those would be like the Z1 star specs, RT615's or the RS3's... which in real life are exactly what FD vehicles use. why is it that you guys find this hard to understand? drifting is an action sport, people would go to sleep if real drifting was like you guys try to depict on this video game. ok, ok, i understand you guys dont care for it... you want all your drifting to be as fake and slow and easy to control as it is on need for speed... why are you posting this BS in my thread?? if i went out in real life and put a set of continental all season radials on my competition car, i would go hurling off the track if i tried to operate at competition levels. there is a reason NONE of the cars in this game come on comfort hards, no NOT A 1... i have 900+ unique cars on this game, and the only one i found that came on something close, was comfort mediums, the 67' a10l, and a few of the older domestics.... the honda life van doesnt even come on those pieces of plastic. why must you guys insist on downgrading your upgraded cars to drift?

FACT #2 I have friends, also I myself can navigate ANY course on those crappy comfort hard tires, and keep up with certain people on comfort soft, OR even sport hard tires. i have done it before. the fact that i dont care to frequent your CH competitions does not mean i dont know the first thing about drifting on your sacred trashy tires. you dont have to know me, nor be familiar with me, that does not mean what i am saying about my skill level is not valid. if you want to prove the point... join up and be shown on game day. you cannot measure what you do on a controller to what the highly skilled D1 competitors do on a track like Fuji in real life. I have ran that same configuration on my G27 and when utilizing the clutch, i have the same results. a close friend of mine that i drive with on GT5 has competed in 2010 D1 and can explain this concept to you, since studying youtube seems to have your concept of this course a bit misconstrued.

FACT #3 and this is the kicker... what the biggest problem i find with most comfort hard drifters, and this is the one that exposes all of your true downfalls in this skill level. you guys tandem and expect it not to be hard work. even when i tandem with a guy slower than me on the same compound tires... i get inches on their door, use a ton of handbrake, and alot of clutchkicks to keep the car as close as possible, and to maintain angle and drift. its no longer totally about the speed when following, simply because the lead car is now the clipping point. you guys are too used to pitching it in and banging the limiter and just having steering imputs to get the sense of why it is so much more fun and challenging to get a really good faster car tandem. if you have experienced a guy that can not control his speed and hits you in a tandem, well he needs to re-evaluate his skills. a bump or a nudge is fine aslong as it doesnt push you off line, but if it is a blatant hit, he isnt as good as he would like to be.

i am the chaser in all of these photos, there is video to validate that i did not touch on all of these runs, not just photo, this included a TON of handbrake, clutch kicking and throttle control. if you cant do it... dont hate on the fact that i and my friends can. basic rule in tandems, set up, initiate as close as possible, move in closer if you are able.... exit the corner on the lead drivers door. this is what i do in the real world, this is what i do on this video game, this is what i will no longer debate.


END RANT> this debate is over. either register yourself, or move along. this competition will move forward without your participation or without. your belly aching about the rules will not change the rules, if you enter in the comp its your own funeral if you choose comfort hards, and your competition doesnt.

I read the first sentence and all I have to say is

WHY ARE YOU COMPARING REAL LIFE TO GT5, I hope you realize gt5's physics are not even remotely close to the real thing. Only reason gt5 is praised is because it has the best physics for a console game...

I'm not gonna hate on sports tires anymore, because I can frankly care less.

 

[monsterGAUZ]

sytfu I don't get why you are fighting for sports tires that hard.

Nobody will agree with you nor joining your competition if you want to keep everything like this

Btw dude... pictures say nothing. Who says that you didn't hit the lead car immediately after this moment?

 

[DaHammas510]

I read the first sentence and all I have to say is

WHY ARE YOU COMPARING REAL LIFE TO GT5, I hope you realize gt5's physics are not even remotely close to the real thing. Only reason gt5 is praised is because it has the best physics for a console game...

I'm not gonna hate on sports tires anymore, because I can frankly care less.

Thats funny a CH poster first said This:

Comfort tires in GT5 are supposed to be like street tires in RL
Sport tires in GT5 are supposed to be like semi slicks in RL
Race tires in GT5 are supposed to be like racing slicks in RL

There is no RL drift competition that allows other tires than those with a street tire tread, fact.
So if you really want to start this set the limit to comfort softs. Then I might think about trying this out. The basic idea isn't that bad I must say but keep it real... AE86 on comfort hard vs a Viper on sports soft?!

The speed differences between c soft and hard are big enough, so atleast keep it street tires like it should be.
Oh and please stop this ''drifting with better tires takes more skill blabla''. Try to reach the level of c hard drifters on c hards and tell me if you still think the same way.
An example: Fuji D1 around the 300R. In RL they initiate at ~180kmh, same with c hards in GT5




You could slide any car at this angle even if you are using racing softs as long as you are just going aggressive enough at the entrance. We are talking about permanent angle during the whole turn

Out of all the facts and experience the Op just shared in that post, that was your reply??? Good Lord. CH drifters ideology are nothing more than houses of cards waiting to be blown over. No way in the word is that plastic oil CH tire anything like a performance Falken tire or anything similar, you have got to be kidding me sir .

Plus I thought this game was called "The Real Driving Simulator". You didn't see the OP in the Need for Speed forum comparing it to realism. The point of this game has always been to strive towards realism.

Flame Off, im not going to troll the thread.

 

[monsterGAUZ]

Thats funny when you first said this:





Out of all the facts and experience the Op just shared in that post, that was your reply??? Good Lord. CH drifters ideology are nothing more than houses of cards waiting to be blown over. No way in the word is that plastic oil CH tire anything like a performance Falken tire or anything similar, you have got to be kidding me sir .

Plus I thought this game was called "The Real Driving Simulator". You didn't see the OP in the Need for Speed forum comparing it to realism. The point of this game has always been to strive towards realism.

Flame Off, im not going to troll the thread.

Er... am I getting it wrong or do you think zedfonsie and me are the same person?
If not I have never claimed that c hards are the one and only drifting tires like ''falken performance tires or anything similar''.
...and you just did troll on this thread

 

[DaHammas510]

Er... am I getting it wrong or do you think zedfonsie and me are the same person?
If not I have never claimed that c hards are the one and only drifting tires like ''falken performance tires or anything similar''.
...and you just did troll on this thread

Typo, that was fixed, go read it in proper context now.

 

[monsterGAUZ]

Typo, that was fixed, go read it in proper context now.

Alright it's clear now, thanks
Please get my point right. I'm neither talking with regard to GT5's physics being realsitic or not nor if c hards are the one and only drift tires. So I'm not a ''CH poster'' but somebody who critizises his idea constructively as you will see if you read my post up there carefully

 

[DaHammas510]

Alright it's clear now, thanks
Please get my point right. I'm neither talking with regard to GT5's physics being realsitic or not nor if c hards are the one and only drift tires. So I'm not a ''CH poster'' but somebody who critizises his idea constructively as you will see if you read my post up there carefully

I can appreciate your civil tone here but I would have to disagree and I think any resonable person looking at this would do the same.

Here is what you just said a little while ago:

Comfort tires in GT5 are supposed to be like street tires in RL
Sport tires in GT5 are supposed to be like semi slicks in RL
Race tires in GT5 are supposed to be like racing slicks in RL

There is no RL drift competition that allows other tires than those with a street tire tread, fact.
So if you really want to start this set the limit to comfort softs. Then I might think about trying this out. The basic idea isn't that bad I must say but keep it real... AE86 on comfort hard vs a Viper on sports soft?!

The speed differences between c soft and hard are big enough, so atleast keep it street tires like it should be.
Oh and please stop this ''drifting with better tires takes more skill blabla''. Try to reach the level of c hard drifters on c hards and tell me if you still think the same way.
An example: Fuji D1 around the 300R. In RL they initiate at ~180kmh, same with c hards in GT5

sytfu I don't get why you are fighting for sports tires that hard.

Nobody will agree with you nor joining your competition if you want to keep everything like this

Btw dude... pictures say nothing. Who says that you didn't hit the lead car immediately after this moment?

As you can clearly see, there are major contradictions present within these posts. but I will say I may have made an error saying comfort "HARD" poster. Maybe that should be changed to "COMFORT" poster. To me its just semantics because the entire comfort line is based on the traction of old plastic milk crates.


And about the realism part... I mean I don't know what to tell you, you said:

"Comfort tires in GT5 are supposed to be like street tires in RL
Sport tires in GT5 are supposed to be like semi slicks in RL
Race tires in GT5 are supposed to be like racing slicks in RL
There is no RL drift competition that allows other tires than those with a street tire tread, fact.".

That pretty much sets in stone your assertion that the Comfort line of tires are to be treated as equal to real world competition drifting tires, so you are in essence talking about the realism of GT5's physics, the tire physics of the Comfort line which you clearly show a bias towards to be exact.

 

[zedfonsie]

^ I was the one who said this game is not realistic, and it isn't. Fact, don't even give me a response on that ****.

You guys have to realize, this is a game. Not real life, gt5's tire selection is terrible. Sports tires are not made for drifting in this game. They are the most "realistic tires". but then you realize this is a game, not real life.

Lets make this short sweet and simple, the drifting teams,events sub-forum is 100% ch drifters. We had a couple of comfort hard+ teams and they were dedicated threads, but guess what? Noone joined and they died. If you can find some people willing to drift on sport tires, good for you.

Also, why are you looking at race championships like formula D? Do you think EVERYONE runs expensive sport tires? Hell NO! they run worn out tires that they got at the junkyard, if not that they run normal michelin or bridgestone tires.

 

[DaHammas510]

Sorry but this is just Foot In Mouth syndrome:

Comfort tires in GT5 are supposed to be like street tires in RL
Sport tires in GT5 are supposed to be like semi slicks in RL
Race tires in GT5 are supposed to be like racing slicks in RL

There is no RL drift competition that allows other tires than those with a street tire tread, fact.So if you really want to start this set the limit to comfort softs. Then I might think about trying this out. The basic idea isn't that bad I must say but keep it real... AE86 on comfort hard vs a Viper on sports soft?!

The speed differences between c soft and hard are big enough, so atleast keep it street tires like it should be.
Oh and please stop this ''drifting with better tires takes more skill blabla''. Try to reach the level of c hard drifters on c hards and tell me if you still think the same way.
An example: Fuji D1 around the 300R. In RL they initiate at ~180kmh, same with c hards in GT5

R compound (dot) radial street Formula D legal Tires: These are "semi slick" RACE compound 180 or lower tread wear. only good for 3 full passes on a FD car:

Nitto NT01

Falken RT615k

Hankook RS3

Advan Neova ADo8

Thats all in comparison to "STREET"(Comfort) tires such as this:

 

[DaHammas510]

More Foot In Mouth syndrome:

^ I was the one who said this game is not realistic, and it isn't. Fact, don't even give me a response on that ****.

You guys have to realize, this is a game. Not real life, gt5's tire selection is terrible. Sports tires are not made for drifting in this game. They are the most "realistic tires". but then you realize this is a game, not real life.

Lets make this short sweet and simple, the drifting teams,events sub-forum is 100% ch drifters. We had a couple of comfort hard+ teams and they were dedicated threads, but guess what? Noone joined and they died. If you can find some people willing to drift on sport tires, good for you.

Also, why are you looking at race championships like formula D? Do you think EVERYONE runs expensive sport tires? Hell NO! they run worn out tires that they got at the junkyard, if not that they run normal michelin or bridgestone tires.

Common Pro-Am SPONSORED Tires for the Series:


federal 595

MAXXIS MA-Z1

khumo SPT

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ALL pro am, or lower teir driving series are backed by the same tire company's that cannot be legitimized for the premier series. so you have maxxis, federal, and kuhmo who all give heavy discounts to grassroots competitors.wether it be in japan or here in america, all the series run just about the same tires. None of these tires look like junkyard crap budget tires. D1SL uses Federal tires and that level of equivalent. FD Pro-am uses the same tires. It is up to the individual buyer to purchase the higher level R compound tires, as some of them do. Reason being, they have heavy discounts on those tires used, and you can actually get these tires for about the same as a used tires. So generalizing that grassroots uses crap tires... that is a HEAVY misconception.

 

[monsterGAUZ]

Ok. This is my last post on this thread. Doesn't matter how civilized you criticise something and how neutral you react to posts from people who have a different opinion, you always get beaten up verbally

 

[zedfonsie]

You are a complete moron! I have a couple friends who own 240's and do drift, do they run those tires? HA, you wish! Keep dreaming dude! You know how much those tires can cost for a set of 4? They run cheap eco tires daily cause they are well, cheap and they break grip easy!

I honestly don't know why you are comparing gt5 to real life, cause that is all your trying to do! Noone cares if in real life you run sports tires! This is a comfort hard dominated game! Comfort hards are basically eco tires, low grip and cheap, but balls of fun! I tried sports tires drifting and its not fun at all! And you look singled out from the crowd!

You can keep yapping about sports tires, but in this game. Sports tires are trash...also they don't get as much angle!

I saw your post update and you don't listen at all! THOSE PEOPLE HAVE MONEY, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE TIRES COST? Normal people who do drifting as a hobby don't spend 1,000 dollars on a set of tires that will only last a couple drift track days!

I'm sure there are people who buy those tires for drifting, but those are people with lots of money.

 

[DaHammas510]

Yo that is funny son lol, I really had a good laugh, not to be mean to you cuz I've been really trying not to seriously. Any reasonable person can look over the facts presented here and figure out whats what. Fact is there is already people signing up and if you don't like that then just don't bother with the thread and let people live. I really am hoping to see some good comfort drifters compete in this because it seems its an open comp, there will be a good variety of competitors bringing the heat with whatever they have instead of the handcuffed CH only stuff that goes on here. PP limit is set to keep the power laid to the ground down so it should be a good battle!


UPDATE TO YOUR POST: Yo.... how much money do we have in the virtual world of GT5???? Maybe you are broke in the game???? We have the money in the virtual world to replicate conditions of the real, Try again my friend. I don't see what says we have to drift at an ECO broke novice level.... WTF??? Makes no sense. If thats the case your drift cars BETTER NOT have any exotic turbos, SC's, Suspension, or other costly upgrades on it either.

 

[sytfu]

heres the problem... "you have friends who own 240's and drift..." I own REAL drift cars and Currently compete in national series in which i PODIUM and am a top 10 finisher in the series (finished 8th). I spend thousands upon thousands on my car... do you think i wanna waste all of that money spent on economy tires... STFU. until you sit in the driver seat, dont comment about the standard in the real world.

more so... IF YOU ARE NOT COMMENTING ABOUT ADDING YOURSELF TO THE ROSTER GET OUT OF HERE WITH THE BS. YOU ARE CLUTTERING MY THREAD TO ALL ENDS WITH YOUR PITTIFUL TERRIBLE DRIFTING HABBITS.


good lord, you guys just cant let anything new come into play. you guys want to shunn it from the inception instead of STFU and let it do what it does. you guys want to throw your plauge on it from the beginning instead of just letting this event take place and involve the spirit of competition. RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG OR STAY IN YOUR CH WEENIE ROOMS.

 

[monsterGAUZ]

Ok then sign me up, I want to try this out

 

[sytfu]

welcome to the event. watch for psn message within the week.