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Hey everyone, whats up?

New to the boards and I figured Id intro myself. Been playin GT since the first and only really got into drifting with the 3rd (BMW 325ci was my favorite drift car). I dont really like my cars to have to much passive stability... I like to handle my car, not have my car handle itself (basically, a loose handling setting). I had my 325 set up this way and was able to control it beautifully even around hairpins.

I find drifting in GT4 WAY harder than in GT3. I dont know if its my settings or what. Either I cant seem to start a smooth drift (I usually wind up understeering unless I use the EB) or once I start a semi-decent drift, the car either goes into a spin or it whips into a sharp countersteer and I share some paint with the wall.

My question is this. What settings do you guys use/prefer? And I dont mean for a specific car. I mean... do you use a generally lower ride hight with stiff springs? Softer springs but not so low to the ground? High or low stabilizer settings? Does anyone EB drift as opposed to inertia induced drifting?

Im looking for some general drifting tips that can be applied to any car. I know that the specific settings vary depending on the drivetrain and thats oK.
 
Welcome to the GTP drift forum.

Please have a read through the FAQ thread at the top of this forum (or save a few mouseclicks and hit the Drift Reference link in my signature). Many of your questions are answered there.

It might be worth your while to check out the Drift Settings Journals, or read through a few settings in the Drift Settings Depot to get a feel of how others set their drift machines. But don't get me wrong, I think your settings should be a bigger reflection of how you like your car to feel, not how someone else does (that might have gone without saying, I suppose). The section I wrote on this in the Drift Reference needs a big time update, so don't take it as the be-all-end-all of drift tuning. Experiment and draw your own conclusions.

Enjoy your stay!

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I haven't posted this anywhere yet, and since it was brought up, I guess I'll sneak it in here.
With regards to the snap-oversteer your encountering, try stiffening the dampers slightly to ease the weight transition as you exit a drift and/or try softening the front stabilizer (or stiffening the rear, I suppose). I'm not sure that these mods work 100% of the time to cure that car characteristic, but it has worked on the 04 S2000 and 05 Mustang GT for me recently.

Of course, this is only to be as a supplement to practice. If you've got your steering work nailed you won't have any snapback.
 
GT Drift Whor3
Wow awesome guide Boundary Layer. thanks!
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I'm in the process of rewriting it to be a bit less wordy and more user friendly (and to fix a few innaccuracies). If you require any other assistance, or have questions about something I wrote in the reference, just fire me a PM.
 
Boundary Layer
Welcome to the GTP drift forum.

Please have a read through the FAQ thread at the top of this forum (or save a few mouseclicks and hit the Drift Reference link in my signature). Many of your questions are answered there.

It might be worth your while to check out the Drift Settings Journals, or read through a few settings in the Drift Settings Depot to get a feel of how others set their drift machines. But don't get me wrong, I think your settings should be a bigger reflection of how you like your car to feel, not how someone else does (that might have gone without saying, I suppose). The section I wrote on this in the Drift Reference needs a big time update, so don't take it as the be-all-end-all of drift tuning. Experiment and draw your own conclusions.

Enjoy your stay!

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I haven't posted this anywhere yet, and since it was brought up, I guess I'll sneak it in here.
With regards to the snap-oversteer your encountering, try stiffening the dampers slightly to ease the weight transition as you exit a drift and/or try softening the front stabilizer. I'm not sure that these mods work 100% of the time to cure that car characteristic, but it has worked on the 04 S2000 and 05 Mustang GT for me recently.

Of course, this is only to be as a supplement to practice. If you've got your steering work nailed you won't have any snapback.
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See just what I was talking about, I've got far to go but, I promise to try to reach your level before the year is out!👍
 
I will say what others told me, use the settings depot and make your own when your ready.
 
Theres plenty of drift settings out there and it all depends on the car and of course you.Ive seen some incredible drift going on with RWD, Something I cant do, I can drift almost to perfect with AWD,"Subaru" hell yeah.oh and the Lancer.
 
Ive been practicing with the RWD cars (first an 89 supra, then a miata) and it was quite difficult to get steady, stable drifts.

Now Im using an Elise (gonna try the different styles) and I seem to be doing a bit better with it.

Learning to drift with the DFP on GT4 (coming from DS2 drifting in GT3) is like learning to walk again. LOL.
 
hey, welcome to boards. Anyways, If your starting drifting on GT4, I suggest using either a AE86 or a Suzuki cappichino '95(sp?) with a nice setting from the Depot and your away laughing.
Also, try to keep your power down, as I find i can get much easier control of the car without to much snap or coming into a corner to hot and trading your bodykit with some concrete.

Sycs
 
thanks for the advice. i first started with an older model supra. HAHA big mistake. high powered RWD... you can guess how that turned out. :P

i moved to a lower powered MR... the 111R Elise... tops out at about 277 or something like that... tuned it down to about 135mph so its not too hard to get the speed down to a manageable amount. i was thinkin about trying the cappuccino too.
 
I would think that if you want more control and dont want the car to really control itsself....you need to increase your front spring rate more.
Ride height on 120 or something, in general, if you like weight shifting you might increase it to 123 (thats what I do) if you really dont like weight shifting you can take it down to 100 at max IMO.

Anyway, cya around:)

Edit: Honda S2000, or RX 7 at around 320 BHP with N2's:tup:
 
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I would think that if you want more control and dont want the car to really control itsself....you need to increase your front spring rate more.
Ride height on 120 or something, in general, if you like weight shifting you might increase it to 123 (thats what I do) if you really dont like weight shifting you can take it down to 100 at max IMO.

Anyway, cya around:)

Edit: Honda S2000, or RX 7 at around 320 BHP with N2's:tup:
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Yeah Ive got my Elise set up nicely. It creates a motherload of oversteer. Maybe too much. I have my spring rates high in the back and front. I was messing with the settings last night for a long time so I dont remember what it wound up being... it was something like 13/16 or 12/14 or something like that. My ride height was.... 90/110?

I break for the turn and when I start the turn out for my feint, I reapply the break a second time for a second and it kicks the back of the car out. Right now, the only major problem I keep having is that I keep losing speed. For me to keep a reasonable amount of speed, I have to keep the angle really shallow. Im still learning to fight my natural reaction to countersteer too fast and whip my car into endless 360s, so thats a work in progress. I cant keep the speed up though.

Im using N3 in the front and N2 in the back. I tried N2s all the way around and it was no good. I tried N2/N1 and that wasnt any good either. N3/N2 is what seemes to work for me. Maybe its my settings?

The 2000 and the RX7 are a bit too advanced for me to handle right now. MR is hard enough, let alone a high powered RWD LOL.

Cya!
 
GT Drift Whor3
Yeah Ive got my Elise set up nicely. It creates a motherload of oversteer. Maybe too much. I have my spring rates high in the back and front. I was messing with the settings last night for a long time so I dont remember what it wound up being... it was something like 13/16 or 12/14 or something like that. My ride height was.... 90/110?

I break for the turn and when I start the turn out for my feint, I reapply the break a second time for a second and it kicks the back of the car out. Right now, the only major problem I keep having is that I keep losing speed. For me to keep a reasonable amount of speed, I have to keep the angle really shallow. Im still learning to fight my natural reaction to countersteer too fast and whip my car into endless 360s, so thats a work in progress. I cant keep the speed up though.

Im using N3 in the front and N2 in the back. I tried N2s all the way around and it was no good. I tried N2/N1 and that wasnt any good either. N3/N2 is what seemes to work for me. Maybe its my settings?

The 2000 and the RX7 are a bit too advanced for me to handle right now. MR is hard enough, let alone a high powered RWD LOL.

Cya!
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The number one thing about drifting is... it's not that fast,second don't I repeat don't stagger(N3/N2) this for me, is the number one cause of speed loss, the thing most people don't realize is you need traction to drift, your settings should make the car balanced enough so you can use one set of tires all the way around(front and back), for me I tighten the rear (making the car drift forward, this will not always work as some cars are the opposite)try the MR-S less HP. I'm probably the only person who will say, I drift the same with either DS2 or DFP (my lines never change,only the precision) you just have to get your mind over the fact that your holding the wheel(VERY HARD because you trying to manage your imput as well),for me I forget about the wheel all together and just focus on the drift alone(angle, line, vehicle's motion).
 
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The number one thing about drifting is... it's not that fast,second don't I repeat don't stagger(N3/N2) this for me, is the number one cause of speed loss, the thing most people don't realize is you need traction to drift, your settings should make the car balanced enough so you can use one set of tires all the way around(front and back), for me I tighten the rear (making the car drift forward, this will not always work as some cars are the opposite)try the MR-S less HP. I'm probably the only person who will say, I drift the same with either DS2 or DFP (my lines never change,only the precision) you just have to get your mind over the fact that your holding the wheel(VERY HARD because you trying to manage your imput as well),for me I forget about the wheel all together and just focus on the drift alone(angle, line, vehicle's motion).
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I was drifting with an MR-S before. Wasnt too bad. A bit too slow for my liking though. Im the type that throws myself into the fire when I learn something. Usually why I wind up gettin burnt, eh? :P

HA! That might be the cause for my speed loss. With the MRS, I never had a speed loss issue and I used N2s all the way around.

I think I know what you are talking about when you say forget about the wheel. There will be sometimes when Im drifting and Im envisioning a line on the road that moves and turns and sets me up for the good drifts. Its then when I get the long, nice, solid drifts. Once I mess up a few times and get frustrated, I get out of that mode and worry too much about correcting the steering or keeping the wheels pointed correctly and wind up not being able to sustain a 2 second drift. LOL
 

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