Next BMW Cabrio On the Horizon

[GT4_Rule]

Um, if you're going to categorize Mustangs as old retired men's cars, then you better include BMWs. Because I see more girls driving Mustang Conv. than any old men.

In truth, it is girls who drive the base model BMW cabriolets. The 330Ci like mine is mostly owned by retired men, esp. when it's equiped with the Performance PKG.


No offense to YSSMAN, or any GM fan here.

No, I'm not offended.

..but you have got to be kidding me. You're going to tell me that BMWs are just status icons that only 1/10 of the owners actually push them, and that you'd take a XLR-V over them?

I mentioned XLR-V because it would've been my personal choice if I had the money, considering the looks (both with top down and up) and performance.

I'm sorry, but THAT is too d*mn funny. Do you have any idea who the main buyers of XLR-Vs or XLRs in general are? I'll give you a hint. They spend their days attempting poetry.

They are the people who have money and can afford those.

That statement you made is just so contradictory, I can not see clearly.

Look, the only reason you can say a BMW is a status icon compared to a XLR-V is because the cheapest BMW cabrio is near $60,000 less than a XLR-V. That allows you to see more of them.

True, but you see more of M6 Cabrios than XLR-V's as well, and they're more expensive.

Put this into perspective.

Let's say for every XLR-V, there's 30 BMW cabrios made. According to your statement, only 1/10ths of BMW owners push their cars. Let's equal that XLR-V.

Wait wait. I did not say that for every XLR-V made, there are 30 BMW Cabrios made, did I? As said above, it meant as my hardtop convertible of choice.

That means for every XLR-V owner, there's 3 other BMW cabrio owners that push their cars. Now, let's say every 1/10th XLR-V owner actually pushes the car.

10 XLR-Vs equal 300 BMW Cabrios. That means for every 1 XLR-V owner who pushes the car, there's 30 BMW Cabrio owners who push theirs.

Wouldn't that be a ratio of 1:3 as you mentioned above? Not 1:300 as you suggested, because for one XLR-V owner there's 3 other BMW Cabrio owners who push their cars. So for 10 XLR-Vs that would equal 30 BMW Cabrios.

By that mathematics, I'd say the XLR-V is more a status car than anything else, and the fact that Cadillac's main buyers for their higher dollar vehicles is mainly rappers or retired folks. That's further proof because there's probably only 1 out of every 50 rappers who actually push their cars.

So please, don't call the BMW a status icon, and say you'd take a XLR-V when the fact is that the majority of XLR owners are just using the cars to show their status just like those 911 Cabrio and Ferrari 360/F430 Spyder owners.

But that does not make BMW a status icon, either. You see who are driving the new BMW's? Rappers, gangsters and rich folks alike.

 

[Tornado]

I mentioned XLR-V because it would've been my personal choice if I had the money, considering the looks (both with top down and up) and performance.

You had me until performance. The SL55 is just a faster and better car than the XLR-v.

Wouldn't that be a ratio of 1:3 as you mentioned above? Not 1:300 as you suggested, because for one XLR-V owner there's 3 other BMW Cabrio owners who push their cars. So for 10 XLR-Vs that would equal 30 BMW Cabrios.

Actually, no, because that is insinuating that every person who buys the XLR pushes it to the limit, which I would bet the farm is not the case. You said 1/10th of BMW drivers push their cars to the limit. Okay. I'm okay with that. But it would be coy, silly and definitely untrue that the mostly old fogies driving XLR's push all of them to the limit. So he was presenting that 1/10th of XLR drivers push their cars to the limit, which would still make 1:30 ratio.

But that does not make BMW a status icon, either. You see who are driving the new BMW's? Rappers, gangsters and rich folks alike.

So, how does the people with status who are drivng the car not make the cars status cars? If I remember correctly, to be a status car it must be owned by people with status. Rappers, gangsters and the rich do have status.

 

[McLaren]

True, but you see more of M6 Cabrios than XLR-V's as well, and they're more expensive.

That's funny. I didn't realize the BMW M6 Cabriolet was even available.

That is pure fiction. There are more XLR-Vs than M6 Cabriolets. Your statement is right out the door.

Wait wait. I did not say that for every XLR-V made, there are 30 BMW Cabrios made, did I? As said above, it meant as my hardtop convertible of choice.

I didn't say you did. I did. Please read.

Wouldn't that be a ratio of 1:3 as you mentioned above? Not 1:300 as you suggested, because for one XLR-V owner there's 3 other BMW Cabrio owners who push their cars. So for 10 XLR-Vs that would equal 30 BMW Cabrios.

Um no. Please, re-read my post. I'm making "mathematical" problem.

But that does not make BMW a status icon, either. You see who are driving the new BMW's? Rappers, gangsters and rich folks alike.

Have you even been studying BMW owners? They are not Gangsters and Rappers.

Rich folks and middle class folks are the primary buyers.

 

[YSSMAN]

I suggest we fuhgedaboudit, and just move on.

If GM ends up with a Camaro convertible, I'd be hard to convince that the 328 or 335 convertible is that better of an option to an SS with the LS2...

 

[Wolfe]

YSSMAN, I have a feeling that no one will be cross-shopping the Camaro convertible and 328i/335i convertibles. I think both will attract completely different groups of customers.

 

[YSSMAN]

I think you have a point, but I'm guessing that there will be people who do, magazines who will do it as well.

To be honest, I'd rather have a Mustang GT convertible than the new 328 cabrio, be it "less sporty" or not. The car arguably looks better, performs similarly, and would be cheaper to buy and insure (or at least should be). A Camaro convertible would change that notion quite quickly, as the GM preference can't be hidden, but let me ask this question then:

...Would a GTO convertible be more appealing as well?

 

[Wolfe]

I can't deny that, like the Mustang GT convertible, a Camaro or GTO convertible would offer a great alternative to the 328i convertible. However the 335i is a different story, because of its performance.

In any case, I think a diehard BMW fan and diehard GM fan like ourselves are the wrong people to be asking these questions.

 

[Poverty]

Have you even been studying BMW owners? They are not Gangsters

LOL the majority of get away vehichles in the UK are either imprezas or some type of BMW.

BMW's are a bit of a drug dealers favourite in London, especially since the X5 came along.

 

[YSSMAN]

In any case, I think a diehard BMW fan and diehard GM fan like ourselves are the wrong people to be asking these questions.

Good point, lol...

I loves me some 335 in any form (prefer the sedan over most), but as a convertible it just wouldn't cut it.

 

[GT4_Rule]

So, how does the people with status who are drivng the car not make the cars status cars? If I remember correctly, to be a status car it must be owned by people with status. Rappers, gangsters and the rich do have status.

Whoops sorry, I meant to say that "That makes BMW a status icon as well"

M6 Convertible: BMW USA Site