Nintendo Revolution FIRST PICS

[JNasty4G63]

.....except GBA Micro, I dont like that at all.

Well, its not really meant to take over. Its just a nice update to the SP. And frankly, I like it. My SP screen hinge is loose, the screen isn't real good, and as small as it is, when folded it won't do pockets. With this, I can easily throw it in a pocket with a game and be set. If they make the screen ACTUALLY nicely back lit, unlike the SP's crappy front light, I'll be happy. I love the GBA. Its such a small piece, but with so many fun games. Sure, some are no more than freshened SNES games and what not. But, I love those games, so they are fun regardless. So, fun games on a nice new small, easy to see piece, I'm sold. I need an SP replacement since mines worn out anyway, so good timing.

.....The Xbox360 is turning away the hardcore gamer, the PS3 will most likely be so expensive, it'll be unbearable. I think Revolution wont revolutionize the industry with power, but with origionality, innovation, and great first party game developing.

Well, Microsoft "SAYS" they are going for a broader audience with the new X360. But, in any of the stuff shown from them in the last few days, have you seen anything to prove that??? They've shown Gears of War, NFS, PGR, Final Fantasy XI, and the usual EA lineup of sports titles. Does any of that scream "Mainstrem" to you??? I sure don't see it. But, thats fine with me. I think they are trying to hard with the marketing. They're trying to talk specs and hardware to compete with Sony. But, at the same time they are trying to talk family-friendly and accessibility to compete with Nintendo. You just can't do both. Stick to what you know and do well. Duke it out with Sony for the hardcore crowd. Leave the family stuff to Nintendo, since they do it better than anyone.

And, really, I don't see either of these systems going for over $400 when released. I see the sweet spot being probably $350-400. Thats a good chunk, but they will sell. I see Nintendo coming in somewhere in the $250-300 range. Not as high, but no lower than $250. If they price the Revo the same as a PSP, that would be huge.

The cost might be high with the next-gens, especially with the PS3, but think about the Blu-Ray factor. When it comes out next spring, it could very well be one of very few BR players available. Now sure, there might not be many movies or media available for BR, but getting that ALONG with your PS3 console is a nice plus. Just like the PS2 did for people and DVD, the PS3 could do for BR players. I know I'm excited for this. My fiance and I got a new HDTV last fall, and I'm eagerly awaiting more stuff to put it to use.

And with regards to the Revo, we'll have to wait and see. They still haven't said a date, for starters. They've just said "2006" for release. That could very well be next Christmas. They originally said they would be right with everyone else so as not to get left behind like they did with Cube, but right now it looks like they are doing it again. Unless they are WAY farther along than they are letting onto. Once we see specs, the controller, and more titles and content for the Revo, then we'll have a better idea of what to expect. As of right now, its just hope and speculation.

Hilg

 

[a6m5]

So far, I like what I'm hearing. I really like the design and the portability also.

My only concern here is that since N64, Nintendo's been totally ignoring the competitors, and losing the battles because of it. N64 had the cartridge system opposed to the Playstaion's CDs. With the GameCube, used the funky mini DVDs compared to the regular DVDs used by PS2 and Xbox. They've also gained an reputation as an "kiddy" video game makers, with most of great games coming only from Nintendo. Capcom tried to support Nintendo with games like Resident Evil series(I applaud them for that), but ended up weakening the RE series instead, IMO.

This is what I believed, before the press release on the three systems(360, PS3 and Revolution).

In this round, I thought the only way for Nintendo to come on top was to do two things:

1. Come up with an superior system(preferably not purple). Revolution had to offer everything PS3 and Xbox 360 offered and more. Backward compability with G.C. is a given. Price should be same, or lower than the other two systems. Also, superior online gaming was mandatory, IMO.

2. Bring in the mature games(get your mind out of the gutter). I understand Nintendo's policy to avoid GTA type games(which is a joke, because of its' ties with Resident Evil series), but if you can't bring in young adults and teenagers in, they might as well just quit now. Pokemon and Mario might keep them above water, but as long as they continue to ignore the success of Gran Turismo, Halo and GTA, they will lose again....... maybe a tie with Xbox 360, if they are lucky.

After reading all the info on all three systems, I think Revolution might have a chance. Downloadable retro Nintendo games are huge plus. If they can keep the price low, and get support from the publishers, I think they will do ok. I don't see them beating PS3. Maybe 360(if they are lucky), but not PS3.

 

[JNasty4G63]

.....Capcom tried to support Nintendo with games like Resident Evil series(I applaud them for that), but ended up weakening the RE series instead, IMO.

Well, I agree with most of what you said, except the bit about Capcom. With as little that they developed for the GC, they had and are making some great games. I think RE4 might possibly be one of the best games I've ever played, on any system, not just GC. And, Viewtiful Joe and VJ2 are some of the coolest games on any platform. Both of those, RE4 and JV, were initially GC exclusives.

And next month, you have Killer 7 coming out. That is looking to be a very different and exciting take on the action/horror genre. Now sure, the other games they've done for GC weren't the best. The Mega Man stuff was basically junk, and RE-Zero the same. But still, you have RE4, VJ, VJ2, and K7 that are some of the best and most innovative games out there. Capcom is great for the GC.

And, the kiddy stuff is great for them. Its not the big flash and hype stuff like you get from the others. But, its what they make LOTS of $$$ on. If they tried to get away from that, we might end up with no Nintendo at all. So, I'll gladly take a few less blockbuster games in favor of them making more $$$$ with a new Mario Sport or Pokemon game. As long as they keep with the big inhouse specials, like Zelda, Metroid, Mario, and some other random gems like RE4 and VJ, I'll be happy.

Hilg

 

[a6m5]

Well, I agree with most of what you said, except the bit about Capcom. With as little that they developed for the GC, they had and are making some great games. I think RE4 might possibly be one of the best games I've ever played, on any system, not just GC. And, Viewtiful Joe and VJ2 are some of the coolest games on any platform. Both of those, RE4 and JV, were initially GC exclusives.

And next month, you have Killer 7 coming out. That is looking to be a very different and exciting take on the action/horror genre. Now sure, the other games they've done for GC weren't the best. The Mega Man stuff was basically junk, and RE-Zero the same. But still, you have RE4, VJ, VJ2, and K7 that are some of the best and most innovative games out there. Capcom is great for the GC.

And, the kiddy stuff is great for them. Its not the big flash and hype stuff like you get from the others. But, its what they make LOTS of $$$ on. If they tried to get away from that, we might end up with no Nintendo at all. So, I'll gladly take a few less blockbuster games in favor of them making more $$$$ with a new Mario Sport or Pokemon game. As long as they keep with the big inhouse specials, like Zelda, Metroid, Mario, and some other random gems like RE4 and VJ, I'll be happy.

Hilg

I agree. I wasn't trying to say that Capcom games for GameCube wasn't good. I just thought, by staying loyal to Nintendo, that weakened the Resident Evil franchise from the commercial standpoint. I haven't played the RE4 yet, but I've heard nothing but praises. 👍

Also, I wan't to clarify about the "kiddy" games. Those Nintendo franchise games are something Microsoft and Sony will never be able to match, so I'm not putting them down. I was just saying, they've got to be able to attract the GTA, GT and Halo crowd in order to top the PS3 and Xbox 360. I'm an huge fan of Zelda & Mario myself.

 

[JNasty4G63]

I haven't played the RE4 yet, but I've heard nothing but praises. 👍

GO GET IT!!!! If you own a GC, you owe it to yourself to play that game. Completely re-invents the RE game. The new 3d person view is fantastic, the control is great, the look is amazing, and the overall atmosphere is just awesome. Like I said, one of the best games I've ever played, regardless of system. Get it NOW!!!! 👍

.....I was just saying, they've got to be able to attract the GTA, GT and Halo crowd in order to top the PS3 and Xbox 360.

See, I don't think it matters. Nintendo seems to me to be content being 2nd. They have much less invested in the console wars, so they can get away with selling less hardware and still make out in the plus. Like I said before, let MS and Sony duke it out for the big time blockbusters and big advertising. Nintendo will be just fine. They are the best at doing the "family" thing, no reason to rock the boat now.

Hilg

 

[Max_DC]

I'm assuming that concept art is the controller? The best out of the three consoles.

That is no concept art, that is Nintendo Virtual Boy from the 90's ... it flopped, but that is nor the point here...

The Nintendo press conference talked about a revolution for gaming...
I thought ... OK.... 2-3 times the power of GC is not what I call a revolution... Then they said something like : it is HOW you play your games not how much power you have on the paper ... and he showed what he called a "classic" console setup : Console - Controller - Internet - TV ... and he pointed out that here the Revolution takes place... and he said that the new console would be even smaller... why? it is not big, so why should they?

Now I thought that maybe they will release the Revolution as a portable console along with VR googels ( as in the picture above )....

Think about it, it may sound ridiculous, but if you look at Nintendo's agruments, it would fit... Pose yourself these questions : Why is it so small ? Why is there no controller shown yet ? Why do they tell you a revolution will take place, when this console is not really powerful...
2-3 times the power of the GC = cheap production, maybe a VR google could be produced for 200 $ or so....
that's what I would call a revolution....

So do I think that this is the truth ? No I don't... but it could be... and it would be freaking cool... just think about a First person Zelda with VR googels....

 

[Blackbird.]

I meant the concept art from near the start of the page with the controller seperated to use both hands. That one, not the Virtual Boy.

 

[a6m5]

GO GET IT!!!! If you own a GC, you owe it to yourself to play that game. Completely re-invents the RE game. The new 3d person view is fantastic, the control is great, the look is amazing, and the overall atmosphere is just awesome. Like I said, one of the best games I've ever played, regardless of system. Get it NOW!!!! 👍

I know. Only reason why I don't have RE4 yet is I haven't beaten the (don't laugh) RE1 for GC yet. As soon as I finish that, I will.

See, I don't think it matters. Nintendo seems to me to be content being 2nd. They have much less invested in the console wars, so they can get away with selling less hardware and still make out in the plus. Like I said before, let MS and Sony duke it out for the big time blockbusters and big advertising. Nintendo will be just fine. They are the best at doing the "family" thing, no reason to rock the boat now.

You do have a good point there. I don't think Nintendo is investing anywhere near MS and Sony are in their new consoles.

Now I thought that maybe they will release the Revolution as a portable console along with VR googels ( as in the picture above )....

Goggles might be amazing(like 52" widescreen view or something), but I don't want one. However, if Revolution is going to be portable, I'd love an high quality screen(like 9"), like you'd see on the portable DVD players.

 

[James2097]

Revolution won't have silly goggles! Thats just not logical, the VB was a big failure, it doesn't exactly infer the easy 'pick up and play' idea nindendo wants.

Nintendo are in classic form. A new silly controller (that lets face it, has to be RELATIVELY normal if your gonna play all of nindendo's back catalougue on it), and a new way of absolutely MILKING their past glory days, like what they've been doing with GBA and DS with remakes of everything.

I figure Nintendo with hold onto their 3rd place well enough, and get interest from old time fans and little kids, but there's no way they can take on Sony or Microsoft these days. As much as the big N says its not about power (and its a good theory) it will be about POWER. The console bussiness has consistently been about more power. Ask any programmer making games these days. No matter what the current system's spec, they'd ALWAYS want it to be faster so they can do more with it. It will be about power and realism when you see Halo3, GT5, the new GTA, Metal Gear 4 etc etc. Thismay be cynical, but its true.

Nintendo's machine not being as fast will just further their image as the 'kiddy' system, and not one of the 'big guns'.

Also, the actual machine LOOKS like an external hard drive, or a modem. Anyone that says it looks good is such a hard core Nintendo fan they can't judge objectively. I'm not saying its terrible, and at least its not OFFENSIVE like Xbox1, but with both the new Xbox and PS3 looking dead SEXY, Nintendo's aesthetic design lately is really not keeping up with the competition (DS vs PSP, GC vs PS2, Rev vs Xbox or PS3). Nintendo's systems are consistently not looking anywhere NEAR as sexy as the competition. In the early days of a console's life, this is more important than people think.

Nintendo will do quite well, but there's no way they can actually beat Sony or MS in this OR any future generations.

 

[Max_DC]

Revolution won't have silly goggles! Thats just not logical, the VB was a big failure, it doesn't exactly infer the easy 'pick up and play' idea nindendo wants.

Yeah probably it won't have... would be cool though... and with todays technology I don't think it would be a failure again, although I honestly don't know how much that would cost... maybe by far too much to be affordable for the masses...

Nintendo are in classic form. A new silly controller (that lets face it, has to be RELATIVELY normal if your gonna play all of nindendo's back catalougue on it), and a new way of absolutely MILKING their past glory days, like what they've been doing with GBA and DS with remakes of everything.

I don't think iw ill be that normal... you can also play the old games with a spectacular new controller as long as it still has a digipad & a analog stick somewhere....

I figure Nintendo with hold onto their 3rd place well enough, and get interest from old time fans and little kids, but there's no way they can take on Sony or Microsoft these days. As much as the big N says its not about power (and its a good theory) it will be about POWER. The console bussiness has consistently been about more power. Ask any programmer making games these days. No matter what the current system's spec, they'd ALWAYS want it to be faster so they can do more with it. It will be about power and realism when you see Halo3, GT5, the new GTA, Metal Gear 4 etc etc. Thismay be cynical, but its true.

Don't forget the price... if Revolution costs maybe only 150 or 200 $ they could be competitive

Nintendo's machine not being as fast will just further their image as the 'kiddy' system, and not one of the 'big guns'.

Maybe... but kids have a lot of money nowadays....

Also, the actual machine LOOKS like an external hard drive, or a modem. Anyone that says it looks good is such a hard core Nintendo fan they can't judge objectively.

Bull 🤬 ... Who are you to judge over everybody's design taste ?
There are also other opinions than yours and they are are just as valuable as yours....

I'm not saying its terrible, and at least its not OFFENSIVE like Xbox1, but with both the new Xbox and PS3 looking dead SEXY, Nintendo's aesthetic design lately is really not keeping up with the competition (DS vs PSP, GC vs PS2, Rev vs Xbox or PS3). Nintendo's systems are consistently not looking anywhere NEAR as sexy as the competition. In the early days of a console's life, this is more important than people think.

Again just one opinion of many....

Nintendo will do quite well, but there's no way they can actually beat Sony or MS in this OR any future generations.

Oh great... so you have some magical device that can forecast the future, ok... so then... if you don't mind.... could you please post the outcome of the next 10 WRC & F1 seasons, yeah and who wins the Soccer Worldchampionship 2046 ?

please... don't start talking about "any future generations" right now, because it makes you sound like a

Nobody knows that....

 

[JNasty4G63]

Also, the actual machine LOOKS like an external hard drive, or a modem. Anyone that says it looks good is such a hard core Nintendo fan they can't judge objectively. I'm not saying its terrible, and at least its not OFFENSIVE like Xbox1, but with both the new Xbox and PS3 looking dead SEXY, Nintendo's aesthetic design lately is really not keeping up with the competition (DS vs PSP, GC vs PS2, Rev vs Xbox or PS3). Nintendo's systems are consistently not looking anywhere NEAR as sexy as the competition. In the early days of a console's life, this is more important than people think.

That paragraph right there just show me how little I should care about your opinion. Anyone who cares about what a system looks like is just not thinking right. It doesn't matter what it looks like. Its about what it does. It could be shaped like a big pink and green spotted toilet, but if its got good games and is a fun machine, who cares. People say the Gamecube looks like a toaster or lunch box. WHO CARES!?!?! Its got great games, and is a blast to play. Like you said, the original XBox was a giant, ugly beast, and wasn't that nice looking. But, that didn't matter. As long as it plays Halo and others, I'm happy. Get over the looks, they mean nothing.

Hilg

 

[Silverzone]

The E3 confrence from Microsoft screams mainstream. They have video chat, card games, T shirts for game characters. That is mainstream.

 

[Solid Fro]

The E3 confrence from Microsoft screams mainstream. They have video chat, card games, T shirts for game characters. That is mainstream.

I guess VelocityGirl is a mainstream whore.

Anyway, look at the pretty colors!

 

[emad]

I'm impressed. This is the first of the next gen consoles with a functional design.

Let me explain.

These companies are claiming that their products will become centerpieces in people's home entertainment systems. Fine, that's wonderful and their designs are absolutely stunning. BUT, their curved tops will make them tough to fit into a home theater cabinet. To toss a PS3 into my cabinet, I'd have to make sure it's at the very top. Same with the Xbox 360. If I have both, it would mean that my cabinet will have to be wide enough for both to sit side by side or tall enough and with enough shelves to accommodate for everything. NOT a good thing.

The Revolution on the other hand is rediculously compact. Based on the pics, it seems that I can easily slip it into the gap between the stuff in my cabinet and the walls of it. In addition to that, it's minimalist and simple design is absolutely breathtaking. It is simple, it is extremely elegant, and very compact.

Major props to Nintendo for making it compact, attractive, and an easy fit for an entertainment cabinet 👍

If the console truly is as revolutionary as they claim, then I have no doubt that Sony and MS will have something to sweat over.

 

[Omnis]

wow, that silver R looks sweet. i don't know if i like it better in silver or black.

 

[Blackbird.]

That's a nice name to call it Omnis, Silver R. Kind of cool.

 

[a6m5]

wow, that silver R looks sweet. i don't know if i like it better in silver or black.

So true. I was thinking black... then I look at the silver one... tough choice!