Nismo vs Spoon tuned Nissan's

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My question is which do you personally think performs better? I'm talking about Silvia and Skyline base mainly.

One of my favorite Japanese cars in the game happens to be Nismo 270R 94' but Spoon is one of my other favorite tuners.
Any thoughts?
 
Yeah I've noticed lately that its much more enjoyable to drive tuned cars as they come rather then changing anything. Maybe put like a.. Mid range turbo in and that about it. Love Nismo
 
Fun fact: in early 2000s Mine's Skyline set 58 sec record on TC track ( that was ofcourse beaten the following year by Evo I think)
 
NISMO is to Nissan as MUGEN is to Honda as TRD is to Toyota, Mine's & Amuse are independent tuners
 
No, Mugen is not a part of Honda. Mugen is a product line produced by M-Tech. It was started by Sochiro Honda's son, but it is not a part of Honda like Nismo, TRD, Mopar, Fordracing, etc. are to their parent companies. The change was made 6 or 7 years ago, and while I remember reading about it in SuperStreet, I can't recall what the reasoning was to change the name of the company to M-Tec, and then keep the Mugen as the name of the line of Honda performance parts. If you look at the Mugen power website, they don't mention it in the company history, but you can see the "Mugen is a registered trademark of M-Tec" on every page.
 
Nismo is better bar none. They tune theyre own cars and none of the ecu programs interfere with the upgrade parts irl i.e. no check engine lights are lit falsely
 
TheRealPhattyJ
No, Mugen is not a part of Honda. Mugen is a product line produced by M-Tech. It was started by Sochiro Honda's son, but it is not a part of Honda like Nismo, TRD, Mopar, Fordracing, etc. are to their parent companies. The change was made 6 or 7 years ago, and while I remember reading about it in SuperStreet, I can't recall what the reasoning was to change the name of the company to M-Tec, and then keep the Mugen as the name of the line of Honda performance parts. If you look at the Mugen power website, they don't mention it in the company history, but you can see the "Mugen is a registered trademark of M-Tec" on every page.
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interesting, Mugen was always the 1st party Honda tuner though, you used to be able to buy their parts through Honda dealers, etc. not sure about now though.
 
Nismo all the way :)

Nismo is to Nissan as Homo is to Honda........
Sorry, had to do it lol, seeing people hated my sig before.

TheRealPhattyJ
That doesn't happen with Spoon, Amuse, or Mine's cars either, and they do in fact tune their own cars, so....
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Have you driven or rode in any of those? How do you know? Don't they use "hacked" ECU's? I've been in a Mugen Civic and my buddy couldn't get the light off.

From what I understand is Nissan gives Nismo the open ECU to certain cars (except R34/5 GTR) to re-program and make monster machines. I don't think it's the same for the other tuners.
 
TheRealPhattyJ
No, Mugen is not a part of Honda. Mugen is a product line produced by M-Tech. It was started by Sochiro Honda's son, but it is not a part of Honda like Nismo, TRD, Mopar, Fordracing, etc. are to their parent companies. The change was made 6 or 7 years ago, and while I remember reading about it in SuperStreet, I can't recall what the reasoning was to change the name of the company to M-Tec, and then keep the Mugen as the name of the line of Honda performance parts. If you look at the Mugen power website, they don't mention it in the company history, but you can see the "Mugen is a registered trademark of M-Tec" on every page.
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True this. Honda has Type-R, if that counts. So basically, unlike Nismo, Mine's, Amuse, Spoon and some others I'm sure you guys know, they are not in-house tuning companies. TRD, Raliiart, Mazdespeed, STi and Nismo are. Most big companies, I'm sure, has their own in-house performance divisions.
 
Bluntified
Nismo all the way :)

Nismo is to Nissan as Homo is to Honda........
Sorry, had to do it lol, seeing people hated my sig before.



Have you driven or rode in any of those? How do you know? Don't they use "hacked" ECU's? I've been in a Mugen Civic and my buddy couldn't get the light off.

From what I understand is Nissan gives Nismo the open ECU to certain cars (except R34/5 GTR) to re-program and make monster machines. I don't think it's the same for the other tuners.
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Not the full cars, but I have been in 2 civics and 1 S2k with Spoon engines in them that friends of mine in Atlanta own, and they've never had any problems like that, and none of my friends from Japan have ever mentioned it about mine's/amuse/aemimaya in the many conversations that we've had about cars. There's a reason why people pay the equivalent of 100's of dollars per hour to get their cars tuned by these companies, and I doubt it would stay that way if their products were that problematic. Your buddy's Mugen Civic really doesn't make sense, as Honda warranties them...is it a factory Mugen or did he aftermarket it himself? there might lie the difference.
 
ROYALEFATALE
interesting, Mugen was always the 1st party Honda tuner though, you used to be able to buy their parts through Honda dealers, etc. not sure about now though.
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It could also be argued that HPD is more Honda's counterpart in the same vein as Nismo and TRD are to Nissan and Toyota respectively, as they are the primaries in terms of Honda Motorsports, where Mugen is a separate company formed by the offspring of the founder.

To answer the OP's question, however, I feel the greater overall improvement in road car performance is seen by the Spoon cars as the Nismo are already more powerful cars and to see the same increase would mean to have cars that would be almost entirely unobtainable. It should also be considered that Spoon are tuners of naturally aspirated vehicles and the increase in performance is that much more respectable for this.
 

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