no pit stops during endurance races?

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Ok this is going to come off sound real odd, I really shouldnt even care but.... everyone I have talked to has complained that during the Endurance Races you have to make to many pit stops or you car spins out of control and is impossible to drive. I have yet to have to make a single pit stop, why? :odd:

maybe its only certain races in the endurance mode? I dont know, but I go an entire 100 laps on the super speedway race without making a single pit stop, but yet one of my friends that plays it says he has to make a pit stop every 10 laps atleast.
 
Super speedway can be run with no pitstops but lap times will not be as good as on new tires.

If you don't pit you will either have to hit the walls or slow down more compared to pitting.

No other endurance race can be run with no pit stop.

Long test course races can but they are not endurance races as such.
 
well in the superspeed way 150miles it doesnt matter but in other it does. because when ur tyres get hot they sort of melt so their slippery in a way which makes the spinning effect and makes u spin out when u accelerate while ur turning.
 
well thats the thing though, I also did the rome one to, 76 laps in 2 hours, and not a single pit stop. My turning and braking was never effected. I'm not very good at turning and braking to begin with though, but it never got worse with time as my tires got more red.
 
Originally posted by Toolfan
well thats the thing though, I also did the rome one to, 76 laps in 2 hours, and not a single pit stop. My turning and braking was never effected. I'm not very good at turning and braking to begin with though, but it never got worse with time as my tires got more red.
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What car, what mods and what tires ?
 
I'll have to get back to you on the mods, as the list will take a while to put together, but for the most part I bought the best parts I could for each car I have used. I am new to GT3, but had a friend who understands the game help me, but as far as cars go I have tried the: Dodge Viper GTS, Panoz Esperante GTR-1, and Chevrolet Corvette C5R. The tires I am just using whatever came with the car when I bought it.
 
Originally posted by WhiteCharisma85
Cool, you'll have tons o' fun on GT3, more if u get sharkport, or gameshard, or action replay. but that's off-topic anyway
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what? whats that suppose to mean? are you saying im cheating? :p I been tempted, because I gotta admit GT3 is very hard. But cheating at this game would suck as it would take all the fun out of it, its worth the rewards anyways you get for winning races.
 
Originally posted by Toolfan
I'll have to get back to you on the mods, as the list will take a while to put together, but for the most part I bought the best parts I could for each car I have used. I am new to GT3, but had a friend who understands the game help me, but as far as cars go I have tried the: Dodge Viper GTS, Panoz Esperante GTR-1, and Chevrolet Corvette C5R. The tires I am just using whatever came with the car when I bought it.
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So you are saying you have run the Rome Endurance in those cars with the tires they came with and you didn't pit and noticed no efefct on handling ?

If you answer yes then I have to say I don't believe you. These cars chew up tires.
 
Originally posted by Toolfan
what? whats that suppose to mean? are you saying im cheating? :p I been tempted, because I gotta admit GT3 is very hard. But cheating at this game would suck as it would take all the fun out of it, its worth the rewards anyways you get for winning races.
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He in no way accused you of cheating. Do you have a guilty conscience ?
 
Originally posted by gumpy
He in no way accused you of cheating. Do you have a guilty conscience ?
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isnt gameshard and sharkport devices used for cheating? :odd:

sorry misunderstanding.

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So you are saying you have run the Rome Endurance in those cars with the tires they came with and you didn't pit and noticed no efefct on handling ?

If you answer yes then I have to say I don't believe you. These cars chew up tires.
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I dont believe it myself. hense the reason why I am asking here. I know that shouldnt be happening. I'm going to test it again, this time doing some actual pit stops and see what happens.
 
Originally posted by Toolfan
isnt gameshard and sharkport devices used for cheating? :odd:

sorry misunderstanding.
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Yes they are cheating devices but he said you will have more fun IF you get one. He said nothing like you will have more fun BECAUSE you have one.

I would say he sent out the bait and caught the fish.
 
Originally posted by gumpy
Yes they are cheating devices but he said you will have more fun IF you get one. He said nothing like you will have more fun BECAUSE you have one.

I would say he sent out the bait and caught the fish.
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indeed he did, I should have read it more carefully.
 
no, no they are used for cheating but i meant for after beating the game. also i meant to use hybrids to have fun, or if u want use it to help u.

just like mine, i use to have a glitch which really sucked. i can tell u if u want me to, it's not a long story or anything.
 
Originally posted by Toolfan
well thats the thing though, I also did the rome one to, 76 laps in 2 hours, and not a single pit stop. My turning and braking was never effected. I'm not very good at turning and braking to begin with though, but it never got worse with time as my tires got more red.
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ok 2 things...

1. if you are using the tires that came with the car, they wear out real quick and dont have much grip to start with.

2. once your tires are all red then AFAIK they dont get any worse, meaning the grip you have at red is the grip you will have till your tires are changed. they dont blow out or anything like that.

:)
 
Originally posted by ving
ok 2 things...

1. if you are using the tires that came with the car, they wear out real quick and dont have much grip to start with.

2. once your tires are all red then AFAIK they dont get any worse, meaning the grip you have at red is the grip you will have till your tires are changed. they dont blow out or anything like that.

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maybe that is why he thinks he sucks at turning and braking.

would the saved pit time be enough to still allow him to get 76 laps though as that is an ok distance at that race.

I would have thought those 3 cars would be impossible to drive with red tires though. massive power oversteer.
 
From previous posts, you've noted that tire wear is not an issue, in which case, I'd reccommend T8 (super softs). They provide the most grip out of any tire. they also wear out the fastest, but that isn't an issue.

I've very curious to see what you're running for times in the enudro's. If you are suffering tire wear (and don't realize it) you'll likely have slower times than others.

When you run the races, in the bottom left corner of your screen are 4 little red squares? they start off Blue, change to green, then yellow, orange and end on red?

Just curious, but have you tried pitting, and see if you turning and braking improves?

I'd like to help out a bit, so if you can give a bit more info that would narrow down the problem.

AO
 
Hmm, although worn tires are bad for driving, it could be interesting to see if you can set-up your car in such a way that the car drives ok even with red tires. At GV you have to pit an aweful lot, so that'd be a good place to test this, as you lose a lot of time to pitting there. I already noticed that if you avoid driving on the curbs you can get 7 laps out of a Poly001 instead of 5 before you need to pit, but I'll have to practice a lot more to see if you can drive laptimes within 5-6 seconds of running the track including the curbs - it may work though.

But correcting for loss of grip by car setup might I'm also wondering if worn down T8s are the same as worn down T2s. That might help.

One thing that I found interesting is that Sim Tires don't get much worse when they are red - in fact, they often get better. It would be interesting to see if you can drive laptimes with red simtires that are better than laps with red S8s.
 
I bought the Dodge Viper Team Oreca car and that thing handles like a dream. I can turn much easier then the other cars I have gotten. I dont have a F-1 yet though, I have been doing a lot of endurance races and I havent won one yet, I dont know which race gives me the F-1. :(

But anywho.... Pit stops effected my performance greatly on the Viper team oreca car. I am using medium racing tires on it.

I did some testing though and yes it does effect my performance if I dont pit stop, I just never realized it before for some reason. :odd: But anywho I took all your guys advice and it helped, thank you. :cheers:
 
Well, good luck. I wasn't sure how to contribute to this unique thread, but it seems like you're getting the hang of it.

If you are going to start pitting, I recommend buying T2 Super Slicks or T3 Slicks for every car you race. These are the hardest tires, so they last the longest between pitstops, though they have slightly less traction than the softer (higher number) tires. But since you are used to driving on red tires it should be easier to make that transition.

Out of curiousity, what Enduros have you run, in what cars, and what were some of your total times?
 
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[If you are going to start pitting, I recommend buying T2 Super Slicks or T3 Slicks for every car you race. These are the hardest tires, so they last the longest between pitstops, though they have slightly less traction than the softer (higher number) tires. But since you are used to driving on red tires it should be easier to make that transition.

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Serious question as you seem to know quite a bit about GT3, If my friend and I are racing, the difference in tires makes a large difference in the race. If I used medium tires and he uses soft tires, his improved lap times because he has better grip will win even though I pit less. If I run softer tires than him, even though I may pit more, because I run faster lap times I will still beat him. How then do you run hard tires and even compete?
 
We all obviously need to take account of lap time gained from soft tires vs time spent in the pits but in general harder tires end up with the best overall result in my experience.

The only exception to this is if you can get 8 laps out of hard tires and you are doing a 10 lap race you may want to go softer so you get 5 quick laps and still only 1 stop.

In endurance races hard tires are almost always the way to go. I think the opposite of what you said. The soft tires do not get me enough time to make up for time spent in the pits. This may be because you get into a rhythm where you are doing pretty quick lap times and not pitting much.

It may be due to setups. You need good handling setups to make the most of hard tires.
 
indeed!

tho if for some reason you are doing a 5 lap race and tire wear is on then soft tires should get you around ok if you drive smooth (also depends on the car used) and end up beating sum1 on hards cause of the extra grip...

my english suxorz 2day :/
 
Originally posted by Drkfae
Serious question as you seem to know quite a bit about GT3, If my friend and I are racing, the difference in tires makes a large difference in the race. If I used medium tires and he uses soft tires, his improved lap times because he has better grip will win even though I pit less. If I run softer tires than him, even though I may pit more, because I run faster lap times I will still beat him. How then do you run hard tires and even compete?
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I guess it's a matter of what length race you're running. In my experience, using equal cars, the person who pits less will win, unless they are not using up their tires (without wearing them red). In general, here's what I try to do:

1) Use the softest tires that I can that will last the whole race without pitting.

2) If the race is too long for that option, and I have to pit no matter what, then I use the softest tires that will last 1 lap past the halfway point.

3) If the race is an enduro, and the 1-stop schedule won't work, I go to T2s and pit as little as possible.

This seems to give me the best average lap time and the best completion time. I know it doesn't really answer your question, but it's what I've found in my experience. Hope it helps a little.
 
Thanks. It does help a bit. My friend and I race 22 laps a race at any track. So our level of competition has taken us to speeds so fast that if you use anything harder than medium tires it is a loss. I run the DENSO and him the Castrol about 900 HP or so. We lap times average of about 1:0X.XXX at Laguna SECA although I could do a faster lap with Supersofts about a 1:07.XXX . Grand Valley we run about mid 1:3X.XXX or should I say he does where I am still about a 1:39.4XX.
 
Originally posted by Toolfan
Ok this is going to come off sound real odd, I really shouldnt even care but.... everyone I have talked to has complained that during the Endurance Races you have to make to many pit stops or you car spins out of control and is impossible to drive. I have yet to have to make a single pit stop, why? :odd:

maybe its only certain races in the endurance mode? I dont know, but I go an entire 100 laps on the super speedway race without making a single pit stop, but yet one of my friends that plays it says he has to make a pit stop every 10 laps atleast.
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I dont pit either, if the AI cars stay out an dont pit neither do I
 

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