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Just got PC2 on my PS4, using poor g29 steering wheel. In that case i have a noob question to monster-simracers. From what shold i start? of course offline career mode firstly but, what about driving asissts and other "Realism settings"? Should I start with hardcore settings from the begining or not?
 
I’m no monster, but I would say no.
I think the path for learning is being comfortable enough to be consistent, so you can understand if something you’ve changed in your methods is really improving your technique. Try not to let yourself too comfortable though.
Sometimes, it’s hard to turn an assist off, but you gotta try.
 
I’m no monster, but I would say no.
I think the path for learning is being comfortable enough to be consistent, so you can understand if something you’ve changed in your methods is really improving your technique. Try not to let yourself too comfortable though.
Sometimes, it’s hard to turn an assist off, but you gotta try.
Thank a lot!
It's hard to refuse the driving asissts, especially after playing in the Gran Turismo with "toy physics")
 
Well there's noobs, and then there's noobs, so it is a bit hard to give advice.

But my opinion is you should definitely use manual gears. Traction control and ABS are fine to use (even real cars, both race and road use these). I would advise you to not bother with the racing line indicator. In my opinion you are better off to just stick with one track and learn it, rather than relying on an indicator to tell you where to go (which is what noobs to when they jump from track to track and never really get to know it). In the end it is just distracting. It only takes a few laps to learn the track (Nordschleife excluded), and you kind of get a racing line indicator in the form of the track rubber marks. Also, if you aren't looking at the line indicator you can focus on looking at brake markers to get your braking really consistent.

Also, I would advise you concentrate on getting your lines right and then the speed will come, rather than trying to drive fast first time out. As my music teacher used to say if you practice something wrong all that happens is you get very proficient at doing it wrong.

Good luck!
 
Well there's noobs, and then there's noobs, so it is a bit hard to give advice.

But my opinion is you should definitely use manual gears. Traction control and ABS are fine to use (even real cars, both race and road use these). I would advise you to not bother with the racing line indicator. In my opinion you are better off to just stick with one track and learn it, rather than relying on an indicator to tell you where to go (which is what noobs to when they jump from track to track and never really get to know it). In the end it is just distracting. It only takes a few laps to learn the track (Nordschleife excluded), and you kind of get a racing line indicator in the form of the track rubber marks. Also, if you aren't looking at the line indicator you can focus on looking at brake markers to get your braking really consistent.

Also, I would advise you concentrate on getting your lines right and then the speed will come, rather than trying to drive fast first time out. As my music teacher used to say if you practice something wrong all that happens is you get very proficient at doing it wrong.

Good luck!
Thank you!
Now i'm using "Realistic" configuration, which includes assistants depending on their availability in a particular car. Of course I'm using a manual gearbox, sequential, because I do not have an H-shifter.
 
Just got PC2 on my PS4, using poor g29 steering wheel. In that case i have a noob question to monster-simracers. From what shold i start? of course offline career mode firstly but, what about driving asissts and other "Realism settings"? Should I start with hardcore settings from the begining or not?

I'm not a monster - I'm experienced, but slow. In my view leave as many of the aids off as you can including driving line and select cockpit view for a more immersive experience then pick a track or tracks that you know well from other games. Don't bother with tuning at first - try out a few different cars until you find some that you like. Try the slower cars first - perhaps the Ford Escort RS 1600 (Class Road G) and Lotus 25 (Historic F1 car). I would avoid the career until you have learnt the tracks and become confident with the feel of the cars with your wheel. Get used to the cars which don't have much grip first then try the more modern grippy stuff - they will then feel relatively easy to drive and control.

Don't worry about speed or setting the AI to a low level. I normally set the aggression to 0. The AI are not good at starting - typically they will ram you so I prefer to start last and play around with the size of the field and the AI setting a lot - gradually raising it to get a good race and as my familiarity improves. I often treat the first lap as if it was a formation which gives the AI a chance to spread out and build up to speed. Hopefully SMS will improve the AI as they are nothing like human drivers when they are tightly bunched - painfully slow and indecisive - like a bunch of pensioners on their way to Sunday Bingo!
 
I'm not a monster - I'm experienced, but slow. In my view leave as many of the aids off as you can including driving line and select cockpit view for a more immersive experience then pick a track or tracks that you know well from other games. Don't bother with tuning at first - try out a few different cars until you find some that you like. Try the slower cars first - perhaps the Ford Escort RS 1600 (Class Road G) and Lotus 25 (Historic F1 car). I would avoid the career until you have learnt the tracks and become confident with the feel of the cars with your wheel. Get used to the cars which don't have much grip first then try the more modern grippy stuff - they will then feel relatively easy to drive and control.

Don't worry about speed or setting the AI to a low level. I normally set the aggression to 0. The AI are not good at starting - typically they will ram you so I prefer to start last and play around with the size of the field and the AI setting a lot - gradually raising it to get a good race and as my familiarity improves. I often treat the first lap as if it was a formation which gives the AI a chance to spread out and build up to speed. Hopefully SMS will improve the AI as they are nothing like human drivers when they are tightly bunched - painfully slow and indecisive - like a bunch of pensioners on their way to Sunday Bingo!


Very appreciated for the detailed answer! Today, I will quit career mode today and play some custom races with AI
 
I'm not a monster - I'm experienced, but slow. In my view leave as many of the aids off as you can including driving line and select cockpit view for a more immersive experience then pick a track or tracks that you know well from other games. Don't bother with tuning at first - try out a few different cars until you find some that you like. Try the slower cars first - perhaps the Ford Escort RS 1600 (Class Road G) and Lotus 25 (Historic F1 car). I would avoid the career until you have learnt the tracks and become confident with the feel of the cars with your wheel. Get used to the cars which don't have much grip first then try the more modern grippy stuff - they will then feel relatively easy to drive and control.

Don't worry about speed or setting the AI to a low level. I normally set the aggression to 0. The AI are not good at starting - typically they will ram you so I prefer to start last and play around with the size of the field and the AI setting a lot - gradually raising it to get a good race and as my familiarity improves. I often treat the first lap as if it was a formation which gives the AI a chance to spread out and build up to speed. Hopefully SMS will improve the AI as they are nothing like human drivers when they are tightly bunched - painfully slow and indecisive - like a bunch of pensioners on their way to Sunday Bingo!

Just finish my hour long practice session with Escort RS 1600. Great experience, especially on wet track!
 
Just finish my hour long practice session with Escort RS 1600. Great experience, especially on wet track!
Not a noob. (I myself in the Experienced but Slow category with Sick) I haven't driven that car. Which version did you drive? Would be fun to try something new.
 
If you DO start a career, the Ginetta juniors is/are a great place to start. Max speed about 130 (i think..feels like 60!) and its got simplified tuning as no downforce/gearing changes allowed etc. I started with AI 60/60.
Took me 15 mins of tuning to get the car just to go around the first sharp right hander! Oulton Park Fosters is a great 'beginner' track, you learn lots of lessons here. Downhill turns...sharp right handers (!)...drift turns a final low gear turn.
 
I'm not a monster - I'm experienced, but slow. In my view leave as many of the aids off as you can including driving line and select cockpit view for a more immersive experience then pick a track or tracks that you know well from other games. Don't bother with tuning at first - try out a few different cars until you find some that you like. Try the slower cars first - perhaps the Ford Escort RS 1600 (Class Road G) and Lotus 25 (Historic F1 car). I would avoid the career until you have learnt the tracks and become confident with the feel of the cars with your wheel. Get used to the cars which don't have much grip first then try the more modern grippy stuff - they will then feel relatively easy to drive and control.

Don't worry about speed or setting the AI to a low level. I normally set the aggression to 0. The AI are not good at starting - typically they will ram you so I prefer to start last and play around with the size of the field and the AI setting a lot - gradually raising it to get a good race and as my familiarity improves. I often treat the first lap as if it was a formation which gives the AI a chance to spread out and build up to speed. Hopefully SMS will improve the AI as they are nothing like human drivers when they are tightly bunched - painfully slow and indecisive - like a bunch of pensioners on their way to Sunday Bingo!
Aggression at 0 will make them “shy”. I usually run 60+, sometimes a bit lower. Starts are rough but then racing is fun after that.
 
Just dive straight into the latest community event with the Ferrari Enzo at Brno.
Turn all assist off, manual gearing in cockpit view.
Once you've clocked a 2:15 or better laptime, everything else will be butter.
Congrats on the purchase and welcome to driving simulation done right.
Also if you don't have Assetto Corsa please get it, you will not be disappointed.
 
Aggression at 0 will make them “shy”. I usually run 60+, sometimes a bit lower. Starts are rough but then racing is fun after that.

I'll try raising the Agression level - I've had it at 0 almost since I first got the game.

@Hllrise I suggest you try the 1959 Aston Martin DBR1/300 round Silverstone Classic. I've really been enjoying this combination. Try starting last with 5 opponents and use the AI in front to help you learn the way round. Gradually increase the AI level and the number of opponents to match your increasing skill - keep making it high enough so that it is a big challenge and needs a mistake free run to get on the podium - it is tricky to make no mistakes with this car so keep the races short and sweet e.g. 4 laps. Don't bother with qualifying - for some reason the AI runs much slower in qualifying and the race than if you run a custom race without qualifying - must be a bug as it's a strange design choice!

When you get to 80 and above the AI runs altered setups (gearing etc.) so if you run no tuning and want a level playing field, build the AI up to 79 and increase the number of opponents to increase the challenge.

Ginetta Junior is a nice car to drive and is a good suggestion to start the career with, but all the Ginettas handle fine - if you have learnt how to drive the Escort RS1600 and the Aston Martin you should have no trouble adapting yourself to race these with no tuning. In real life they are raced by very young drivers (14-17) - for them it is a first race car after starting in karts.
 
XXI
Just dive straight into the latest community event with the Ferrari Enzo at Brno.
Turn all assist off, manual gearing in cockpit view.
Once you've clocked a 2:15 or better laptime, everything else will be butter.
Congrats on the purchase and welcome to driving simulation done right.
Also if you don't have Assetto Corsa please get it, you will not be disappointed.
I have AC already, but it's still too scary for me yet:)
 
XXI
Just dive straight into the latest community event with the Ferrari Enzo at Brno.
Turn all assist off, manual gearing in cockpit view.
Once you've clocked a 2:15 or better laptime, everything else will be butter.
Congrats on the purchase and welcome to driving simulation done right.
Also if you don't have Assetto Corsa please get it, you will not be disappointed.

I did 2:22 yesterday, slowl, but it was cool.
 
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