North Korea

  • Thread starter Thread starter oosacker
  • 13 comments
  • 825 views
oosacker

oosacker

Messages
1,847
I would just like to explain a few truths about North Korea(’©‘N–¯ŽåŽå‹`l–¯˜a‘ j, since most people not around Asia know much about the communist country and what they do. This stuff is written from a Japanese perspective(ie me).

1. North Korea produces and trades drugs to countries such as Japan, with organsied crime groups such as the Yakuza in order to make money. The mysterious ship which sank in the sea of Japan last year was found to be armed with rocket launchers and machineguns, and was on its way to travel to Japan to trade drugs with the Yakuza.

2. North Korea abducts people from Japan and South Korea for them to teach their languages. This has been happening for a long time, and finally, thanks to Prime Minister Yunichiro Koizumi, something has been done about it (the abductees came home after years living in North Korea).

3. It is said that North Korea has missiles that are facing Japan, that are waiting to be fired.

4. And now, they are saying they have nuclear weapons.

These are some of the reasons we Japanese(and South Koreans and Chinnese) think North Korea is a threat to Asia. Some people in America think North Korea should "do what they want", I don't agree. Do you?
 
I think they're a huge threat.

This is a particularly delicate game. There was mention a few weeks ago that the Chinese had evaluated the possiblity of invading North Korea, but concluded that they couldn't mobilise their army quickly enough to make a quick job off it.

Given that North Korea was previously 'influenced' by China, this suggests to me that their influence has waned considerably, and that China considers them a genuine threat - two pretty worrying developments.

With the Chinese heading over to the US in the coming days to discuss North Korea, I think we'll see some developments on this issue soon.

If China and the US come into agreement on how to deal with this issue I think you'll see the UN Security Council fall into line pretty quickly on this.

The major issue is that if North Korea do have nuclear warheads capable of being launched on missiles, there are some pretty economically significant countries in the region. I can kiss goodbye to my superannuation if Tokyo gets hit by a nuke...
 
I think what I thought when we went after Iraq...

North Korea was a larger threat then and now than Iraq was. We should've worked with the United Nations in solving the problem with North Korea.
 
North Korea has not violated UN sanctions for the last 10 years. We didn't just win a war with North Korea and dictate terms to them. Both of those happened in Iraq giving us waaaay more reason to go in and waaaay more reason to believe that diplomacy (which clinton supposedly tried for 8 years) wasn't going.

Maybe North Korea is a bigger threat, but that doesn't justify military action. Military action in Iraq had been justified for years.
 
I'm sure the US has enough influence in "Atomic Science World" to sabotage North Korea's pursuit of a properly working nuclear program for now, but they had better get their asses in gear to come up with a more solid resolution.

This insane bastard has nuclear missiles that can reach me here in LA! I say "Li'l Kim" has to be dealt with more fervor, but at least they are working on the sitiuation. Parking an Aircraft Carrier just off the coast of South Korea was an excellent maneuver.👍

Maybe as a gesture of "goodwill," we should send him some Viagra and a couple of good hookers. Sounds like this guy hasn't had a good schtooping in a long time. What do you think?
 
Originally posted by danoff
North Korea has not violated UN sanctions for the last 10 years. We didn't just win a war with North Korea and dictate terms to them. Both of those happened in Iraq giving us waaaay more reason to go in and waaaay more reason to believe that diplomacy (which clinton supposedly tried for 8 years) wasn't going.

Maybe North Korea is a bigger threat, but that doesn't justify military action. Military action in Iraq had been justified for years.
Click to expand...
You concede that North Korea is a bigger threat, and yet you do not believe this justifies military action. Why do they call the military "national defense"? Why does Bush continually repeat "a threat is gone" when defending his decisions in Iraq? Your not technically wrong, but I think your prioritization is off.

If Iraq had annihilated Israel and conquered the entire middle east, North Korea would still be a bigger threat.

The fact of the matter is that Iraq is an easy win in comparison, and better for George's image, even though it's blowing up in his face right now. Millitary action against North Korea, which we would no doubt win, but only with help, would nevertheless result in the destruction of key economic centers like Seoul and Tokyo.

Bush is praying North Korea will simply comply. And he should be. Any other option is unthinkable. It would be the worst war the world has seen since WWII.
 
Originally posted by milefile

If Iraq had annihilated Israel and conquered the entire middle east, North Korea would still be a bigger threat.
Click to expand...
In my opinion, yes, but in government's opinion, Israel is the most priceless country on Earth.
 
You concede that North Korea is a bigger threat, and yet you do not believe this justifies military action. Why do they call the military "national defense"? Why does Bush continually repeat "a threat is gone" when defending his decisions in Iraq? Your not technically wrong, but I think your prioritization is off.

If Iraq had annihilated Israel and conquered the entire middle east, North Korea would still be a bigger threat.

The fact of the matter is that Iraq is an easy win in comparison, and better for George's image, even though it's blowing up in his face right now. Millitary action against North Korea, which we would no doubt win, but only with help, would nevertheless result in the destruction of key economic centers like Seoul and Tokyo.

Bush is praying North Korea will simply comply. And he should be. Any other option is unthinkable. It would be the worst war the world has seen since WWII.
Click to expand...

We have theater-wide ballistic missile defense that we can use to defend japan. North Korea is sabre rattling and will eventually have to cope with their entire region. Iraq had been sabre rattling for years and its region decided to jump on board. There is a big difference.

North Korea is a bigger threat, but we were more justified in invading Iraq.
 
North Korea is a bigger threat, but we were more justified in invading Iraq.
Click to expand...

I'll go ahead and justify that statement again, so that there isn't any confusion.

North Korea is developing nuclear weapons, but they do not have a history of supporting terrorist activity. Correct me if I am wrong, but North Korea is not required to uphold a cease fire agreement to prevent war. North Korea does not have a 10 year history of breaking UN resolutions. North Korea has not invaded a US ally in nearly as recent history as Iraq did. North Korea's neighbors are more likely to assist the US in applying diplomatic pressure to convince the north koreans to stand down... not so for Iraq. The north korean government is not as hard on its citizens as the iraqi government was. We have not exhausted diplomatic efforts with north korea.

They are a bigger threat. But we were more justified in invading Iraq.

This is all I could come up with in 5 minutes. Also, please remember that in refuting the above statement, it is important to refute the vast majority of the arguments above (in other words picking on one is not enough).
 

Latest Posts

Back