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My boss invited some guy and a vidoegrapher from his church to come into our office and ask everyone to answer the question "Why is it sometimes hard to ask for forgiveness," on camera.

I watched them make rounds around the office, slightly nervous, but half expecting to be skipped because I'm not very tight with the boss like some people are.

But I was approached. Crap. I said my truth: "I do not have a hard time asking for forgiveness." They were stumped.

I listened to other's responses and was blown away at how complicated they made it. If I screw up I have no problem asking for forgiveness. I may feel ashamed, even after I am forgiven by whomever I slighted, and that only proves forgiving one's self is hardest. But being forgiven is a total relief and it's hard for me to understand why that would be so hard for some people. What's hard is when someone won't forgive you.

There have been times when others may think I should ask for forgiveness (especially my parents), but I won't because I don't think I should or need to. The only judge of that is me... and I think this is where the difference might come in. I don't walk the earth with an omnicient judge on my back, comparing every move I make to some impossible standard, as is the case with many others.

Anyway... this probably should've gone in Opinions, but do you have any thoughts on this? including the mere fact that the boss invited these church guys into the office to record us?
 
I agree if you are truly proven wrong then by all means you should beg for forgiveness but if you don't feel sorry for what you done than you have the right to justify your actions however you see fit of course though this could cause terrible rifts in friends and family relationships so usually in my case I just back down because its just too bloody long.
 
First off... what the hell? Your boss is MAD.

I haven't had to ask anyone for forgivenes yet, but I'm not ashamed to apologize or admit my faults. Some people just want to appear infallible, and consider apologies as a prestige loss.
 
You've never in your life had to ask for forgiveness? Wow, You must always think things through when you are angry before you say something. Either that or you never admit you are wrong in something you say.
I'm not trying to get down on you I just think that's amazing that you have never asked someone to forgive you. Unless you aren't counting saying you were sorry as a form of asking for forgiveness. If that's the case then I can understand that. I have said I am sorry before but I don't look for that person to forgive me and a lot of the time I really don't care if they do,
 
Originally posted by DGB454
You've never in your life had to ask for forgiveness? Wow, You must always think things through when you are angry before you say something. Either that or you never admit you are wrong in something you say.
I'm not trying to get down on you I just think that's amazing that you have never asked someone to forgive you. Unless you aren't counting saying you were sorry as a form of asking for forgiveness. If that's the case then I can understand that. I have said I am sorry before but I don't look for that person to forgive me and a lot of the time I really don't care if they do,
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I don't think apologizing is the same as asking for forgiveness...
 
I'm Catholic but I've never gone to a confession. I actually don't even go to Church that often. I belive in God and everything, I just would rather be playing baseball rather than hearing the Bible read out to me every Sunday.

And anyway, there are like no Catholics in the south so it kinda sucks. Only the northeners are Catholics and we're pretty much too lazy to go to Church like I said earlier. :p
 
Originally posted by KosmikFool
I'm Catholic but I've never gone to a confession. I actually don't even go to Church that often. I belive in God and everything, I just would rather be playing baseball rather than hearing the Bible read out to me every Sunday.

And anyway, there are like no Catholics in the south so it kinda sucks. Only the northeners are Catholics and we're pretty much too lazy to go to Church like I said earlier. :p
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Well, I live in the north and am Catholic, but since I live in Minnesota, I'm surrounded by Lutherans and such. Then there's the occasional 'Other', or non-lutheran. Stupid Minnesota....

I go to Curch occasionally, I'd like to go more often, but nobody else in my family wants to go too much. My mom works every other weekend, as well as other days, while my brother doesn't want to go to church, and only does so for weddings and holidays. My dad is Lutheran, and there's no way I'd want to go to either his church, or have to go to church with him, he just makes me feel uncomfortable.
I've never gone to confession either, but the sole reason is because my church sucks. It shouldn't really be considered a church. They call it a 'Catholic Community,' so I guess that is more accurate or something. Anywho, my church doesn't have any confession boxes, it doesn't even have a statue of Jesus or Holy Mary. And for some odd reason, the group that gets together to pray the Rosary gets together at 8:30 or so on Tuesdays....:odd:
 
Originally posted by rjensen11
Anywho, my church doesn't have any confession boxes, it doesn't even have a statue of Jesus or Holy Mary. And for some odd reason, the group that gets together to pray the Rosary gets together at 8:30 or so on Tuesdays....:odd:
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Neither does ours. If your not Lutheran or something they pretty much pretend you don't exist and build you a crappy church. :p
 
I think that it's a function of adulthood, being able to admit that you're wrong, and ask for forgiveness. It's a real case of being able to forsake your own pride now for your ability to stand tall in the future. It's about living with yourself and dealing with your own fallibility.
 
Its Sunday...
A drunk stumbles along a baptismal service on Sunday afternoon down by the river.

He proceeds to walk down into the water and stand next to the preacher. The minister turns, notices the old drunk and says, "Mister, are you ready to find Jesus?"

The drunk looks back and says, "Yes, Preacher, I sure am."

The minister then dunks the fellow's head under the water and pulls him right back up. "Have you found Jesus?" the preacher asked.

"Nooo, I didn't!" said the drunk.

The preacher then dunks him under for quite a bit longer, brings him up and says, "Now, brother, have you found Jesus?"

"Noooo, I have not, Reverend."

The preacher in disgust holds the man under for at least 30 seconds this time, brings him out of the water and says in a harsh tone, "My God, man, have you found Jesus yet?"

The old drunk wipes his eyes and says to the preacher, "Are you sure this is where he fell in?"
 

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