ok.. so about the drive trains..

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So.. Ive played forza3.. A lot and ive noticed that MR's are not as difficilt to uh.. Not spin out as in gt5. My real question is.. Whether im using a lotus, an nsx or a zonda, how do i not spin out o.o.. I drive fr's rr's awd's and ff's no problem but MR's.. Except race cars, i spin out like crazy o.o..
 
you need practice.

learn how to tune up your car, lsd, brakes etc.

All cars will spin out if you dont have good throttle control. so practice that or use aids.
 
Rear toe is key. Usually I'll set fr,4wd,ff with some negative toe to get it to rotate in corners more. Maybe -.01 to -.04

Mr and rr I'll give it positive toe to keep the rear from rotating too much. Maybe .02 to .05 (yellowbird needs more)
 
You shouldn't be tuning cars if you can't drive them in the first place. Learn to drive them standard, then start making adjustments. This will give you a better understanding of their characteristics.

In general, MR cars will tend to lift-off oversteer on the way into a corner. When you get off the throttle, you are shifting the weight balance of the car more towards the front, which effectively reduces the grip of the rear tyres. Then, when you turn in, the weight of the mid-mounted engine will act upon the unloaded rear tyres and start to push the rear of the car wide (depending of course on speed, available grip, torque effect of the engine, centre of gravity and so on). At this point, to attempt to catch the oversteer you may want to try a gentle application of throttle. This will often settle the rear of the car by forcing the weight back onto the rear tyres and increasing the grip again.
 
Like the poster above said, it is all about throttle control, and balancing the car's weight shifting.

Often for cars like an Elise, Berlinette (sp?), Yellowbird and Cobra, I usually apply somewhere around half throttle during cornering. Obviously you need to apply either less or more to keep the car in check.

As stated above me, watch out for the lift off oversteer. When you are heavy braking, make sure to apply the throttle a little while releasing the brake peddle, that will stop the rear end stepping out.
Of course, don't punch the accelerator either unless you're confident the car is going to be planted when leaving the turn. It's usually better to gently rise up to full throttle while pointing in as straight a line as possible.

Another thing that you could do is to lower the rear brake bias settings, let the front brakes do more of the work. Fitting an L.S.D and whacking that up will also straighten out the car, but it will be more difficult to turn.
 
Power brake, never completely lift off the throttle to keep the rear end loaded. As mentioned, as usual it's all about throttle control 👍 Also, I agree with Peter, all the tuning in the world will not fix bad form. Drive first, tune second!
 
And try not to practice in an MR2 lol :/ That's asking for trouble. But yeah just try and practice throttle control
 
bebogogo2
So.. Ive played forza3.. A lot and ive noticed that MR's are not as difficilt to uh.. Not spin out as in gt5. My real question is.. Whether im using a lotus, an nsx or a zonda, how do i not spin out o.o.. I drive fr's rr's awd's and ff's no problem but MR's.. Except race cars, i spin out like crazy o.o..
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Yes even in FM4 the MR's cars are very easy to handle, GT5 is a different story. 1st do not tune the car just as some of the other members stated, if you cannot drive in in stock fashion don't even touch a tuning part. Adding to what the other smart members above said remember that your turning angle is going to be shorter than driving a FR FF AWD. MR's do not have the motors in the front so turn in is crisp and easy. What I find new drivers doing when driving MR's is over turning the car easily bring out the rear and spinning out. Once you do this you will notice why MR's are great platforms for racing. The NSX is the most balance out of the three you listed in my opinion but don't take my word I'am the JDMking. :sly:
 
I don't understand how you have such problems with MRs if you say you can drive RRs easily.

The further back the engine goes, the more fun a drive it becomes, just take it easy on the gas and soon you'll be able to keep the car straight what ever the condition.
 
It would help if the op offered more info.
Under what circumstances is he spinning out.
From his op I can't offer much info other than the drive train tends to understeer out of corners.

That particular drive train has the best weight distribution over all others. Except perhaps mid engine AWD. That's why so many race cars use it.
 

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