OMG Didn't know Formula Indy was for ladies

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:sly: This one with the AUP.

Well, let's say didn't know Formula Indy was ONLY for ladies.
Danica max respect.

So back to the point.



Why those "marshalls" really do that?

Harsh decision or everything "normal"?

What if Nico Rosberg was a Formula Indy Driver? Death penalty?
 
From the other thread, guessing you didn't read it though.

It should be noted that race control has completely changed since that incident.

I'm also sure the FIA has never made a questionable call.:rolleyes:
 
I'm also sure the FIA has never made a questionable call.:rolleyes:
As you say, the FIA has made plenty controversial decisions; more so in recent years. In fact there were plenty of those in Bahrain during the weekend; on and off the track.
 
Sorry which incident?

The one you are getting your panties in a bunch over.

Oddly(not really) you didn't respond to my actual point, the person who made that call is no longer making calls in IndyCar. That same situation has happened several times this year and nothing happened.

FIA are another bunch of **** but at least, most of the times they let drivers compete.

As does IndyCar, perhaps you should watch more than a YouTube clip before drawing a conclusion.💡
 
It's because it was a right turn.

But seriously, silly call by the marshals.
 
The one you are getting your panties in a bunch over.

Oddly(not really) you didn't respond to my actual point, the person who made that call is no longer making calls in IndyCar. That same situation has happened several times this year and nothing happened.
I did know an incident was when a car crash into another car. How can be an incident without contact? Myabe you are saying that was a mistake by the marshall and because of that he is no longer an Indy marshall.

If so, well that's fair enough. Good decision by Indy Series.

That same situation has happened several times this year and nothing happened.
I'm happy to hear that.

As does IndyCar, perhaps you should watch more than a YouTube clip before drawing a conclusion.💡
No that's way too easy, I prefer stress you on the forum. :p
 
I did know an incident was when a car crash into another car. How can be an incident without contact?

Incident - an individual occurrence or event.

Accident - an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty; mishap: automobile accidents.

I'll let you determine what one that clip is.

Myabe you are saying that was a mistake by the marshall and because of that he is no longer an Indy marshall.

He is no longer race director because fans and drivers hated the way he controlled the races. Sadly stupid calls like that used to happen frequently, there hasn't been many penalties this year since he is no longer in power.
 
"Incidente" means crash in my language so I thought it was the same without an "e" in English but no LoL.

Ok cheers I wish real Motorsport and fair duels to the Indy fans!
 
I agree with the OP how about we go back to racing. I mean if people like running a train and waiting for the car infront of you to break down to move up that's cool, not racing but cool. :sly:
 
Well those rules suck.
Are they trying to make the race as boring as possible?
 
Indycar doesn't normally penalize for passing unless it is done incorrectly.
He did push Seb near the wall but he had the position anyways.
He didn't even have to outbrake him going into it, already had a great run from the previous corner and went by on the straight.
He didn't have to drift wide but he shouldn't have been docked for it.
 
What a bunch of BS! This right here just reminded me why I've lost all respect for american racing, just stupid!
 
Jav
What a bunch of BS! This right here just reminded me why I've lost all respect for american racing, just stupid!

Please dont let this be a representation of ALL American racing...

The ALMS is actually quite good..
 
Why those "marshalls" really do that?

Harsh decision or everything "normal"?

What if Nico Rosberg was a Formula Indy Driver? Death penalty?

First thing:
I realise Giorgio referred to them as marshalls too, but I think its best to differentiate between marshalls who help keep the track clear and warn drivers of track conditions and stewards who ensure the races are run within the rules and all competitors comply with the rules.
Otherwise it gets really confusing in certain scenarios when people refer to almost everyone involved as "marshalls".

Secondly:
Why? Well Indycar had rather idiotic stewards and race control chiefs involved the past few years who introduced stuff like "no defending the inside line" rules etc. Fortunately they've got rid of these people and these stupid rules this year.

Certainly a harsh decision but I don't really see the relevance of Nico Rosberg - Rosberg last weekend was defending to an extreme before a corner whereas here Giorgio was overtaking in a corner and running wide either on purpose or through momentum.

To be honest though, its kind of good to sometimes see stewards taking a hard line on drivers that do what Giorgio sort of did here - overtake and then run wide on the exit to push the other driver off the track or back off. While its fair as far as rules go, its not especially "sportsman-like". But its a difficult one really as I also think it would be farcical to force drivers to leave room on the outside all the time as they would inevitably struggle to make late-braking moves stick at all if they had to always take a tighter line to give the space.

Really I think the age-old F1 rule of "one move to block in the braking zone" is a good enough rule, just to make it clear to the driver behind which line you are taking in the braking area as this is the area where the driver behind must decide where to place their momentum and cannot drop out of a move they start. Changing line and direction during the corner or on corner exit becomes a little more difficult to really regulate against and isn't really that dangerous as long as both drivers give each other room to stay on the track.
For example, I don't see anything wrong with Schumacher's moves defending from Hamilton at Monza 2011 (where he made his move to defend but then returned to the optimum racing line as they left the braking zone and entered the corners). And for the best example of changing lines but still only making one move in the braking zones, look to Senna vs Mansell Monaco 1992.
I personally think weaving on straights to break slipstream tows isn't something that should be penalised but its certainly not nice racing ettiquette.

It seems a lot of people can't see the difference between only making one move in a braking zone and weaving all over the place - especially when its a series of corners like Esses or something where each corner feeds into another and a defensive line requires the driver to move from one side to another. Even some of the drivers seem to moan when a driver in front is supposedly "weaving all over the place" when they are actually taking perfectly fine defensive lines into each corner.

But anyway, this thread is kind of silly now that they've changed a lot of the silly rules and got rid of some of the silly stewards in Indycar. Though there are some ill-thought-out penalties still in place like the unnecessary engine penalties.
 
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Just one question. During the silly years how was one meant to overtake?
 
Pantano didnt overtake Seb,he switched his line while leading to block.Seb explains it perfectly in the interview why it was a penalty.The fast that he pushed Seb wide and forced him into lifting or go head-on into the wall im sure played into the penalty. Helio had the same penalty at Edmonton.

I think that rule was put into place to give drivers a chance to actually make a pass.The field top to bottom was very close (same spec cars) and they didnt want a 90 minute single file parade that would put TV audiences to sleep (or watching NASCAR).
 
He was already ahead going into the corner, finding it hard to believe what I'm seeing here, sad state of affairs if thats how you go racing in Indycar.
 
Just one question. During the silly years how was one meant to overtake?

Get a better run off a corner, take them on a straight. Make a balls-y outside move on a broad turn with major late braking, and with a car which had major oversteer so you could pull it off.
 
Certainly a harsh decision but I don't really see the relevance of Nico Rosberg - Rosberg last weekend was defending to an extreme before a corner whereas here Giorgio was overtaking in a corner and running wide either on purpose or through momentum.
NOPE, Giorgio was defending position on the inside without changing direction in a dangerous way like Rosbrerg did. Anyway if IndyCar solved this problem with stewards it's all ok now.
 
They removed Brian Barnhard, the first step in making american racing great. Next is getting Dr Jerry Punch out the commentary booth of ESPN, no wait ESPN full stop out...
 
They removed Brian Barnhard, the first step in making american racing great. Next is getting Dr Jerry Punch out the commentary booth of ESPN, no wait ESPN full stop out...

Dr. Jerry Punch never did Indy coverage, so I don't see how he fits into this.
 
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