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OMG JACQUES FINISHED THA RACE!!!!!!!! AND HE SCORED POINTS!!!!!! AND NONE OF THE BRITS FINISHED!!!!(Button) YEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

PLUS THE MTL ALLOUETTES WON!!!!!
This Is Such a good day :D!!!!!!

Even if shumi won :rolleyes: :p
Tho im disapointed bouth tha gp today... the renaults had bad luck it would of been a great race whit them 2 in the picture...

Did u see tha tifosis at the end of the race it was crazy!
N-e-wayz still was a good race.
 
i was hoping for a good race at monza but after the 1 st lap it was boring at the front i wanted montoya to pass schumaca but was held up badly by a sabaur which cost him time a ruined the race for the fans.
 
Yeah I was rooting for Montoya, he was going like the clappers up until then. Although I think he ran too much wing MS was just owning him out of those fast corners.

Also I doubt it was Buttons fault he retired, seeing as it was a gearbox failure and who has more overall points JV, or Button.
 
Originally posted by Cobraboy
Jesus, I'm only the 2nd person posting in this thread that has good grammar.

I'm not obsessed with pies, nuh-uh.
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Well what do you expect when the thread starter cleverly titled the thread Omg!!!

I mean that title just screams post quality doesn't it.
 
Originally posted by Race Idiot
Well what do you expect when the thread starter cleverly titled the thread Omg!!!

I mean that title just screams post quality doesn't it.
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Ha, :lol: You're right.

Omgasl?

KTHNXBYE!
 
What about JPM in the post race interview? got held up by a couple of backmarkers so he decided to back of and not chase the Ferrari? That is something you would never see from Michael and a good reson why JPM will not be World Champion this year
IMO he still has a lot to learn
 
Originally posted by Bollocks#999
What about JPM in the post race interview? got held up by a couple of backmarkers so he decided to back of and not chase the Ferrari? That is something you would never see from Michael and a good reson why JPM will not be World Champion this year
IMO he still has a lot to learn
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I agreed with that. Hakinnen was much the same. "Oh well, im in second, might as well catch some shut eye"

Not a true champions philosophy :D
 
LoL yeah....

Yo RI it wasnt Buttons fault but its never (or almost never) JV's fault most of the time its Motor problems or stupid stuff... Eh even the brake cooling as failed on the bar...

N-e-wayz im just happy that he finished and as a bonus he finished in the points!
 
Originally posted by Race Idiot
Yeah I was rooting for Montoya, he was going like the clappers up until then. Although I think he ran too much wing MS was just owning him out of those fast corners.
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Well, you would think that, but then the Live Timing showed that actually MS was owning him in Sector 2. The quickest corner, Parabolica, is in Sector 3, where JPM was typically between 3 and 6 tenths faster.

Originally posted by Race Idiot
Also I doubt it was Buttons fault he retired, seeing as it was a gearbox failure and who has more overall points JV, or Button.
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You can't blame the driver for gearbox failure any more.

Originally posted by Bollocks#999
What about JPM in the post race interview? got held up by a couple of backmarkers so he decided to back of and not chase the Ferrari? That is something you would never see from Michael and a good reson why JPM will not be World Champion this year
IMO he still has a lot to learn
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It is exactly a champion's mentality to settle for second. If he'd gone all-out for the win and blown the engine, you'd all be griping at him for being reckless, and saying he should have backed off and taken the sure 8 points.

You should be more consistent in your criticisms.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie

It is exactly a champion's mentality to settle for second. If he'd gone all-out for the win and blown the engine, you'd all be griping at him for being reckless, and saying he should have backed off and taken the sure 8 points.

You should be more consistent in your criticisms.
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I have to disagree with you on that point altho it was a bit of "damned if you do, damned if you dont". A champion should never want to settle for anything. He was slightly quicker on the closing laps (around .25secs), so he had no excuse for not trying to attack again after frentzen.....Wait a sec....am i arguing for monty here :confused::confused:


Whats going on :confused: :confused:
 
Originally posted by Giles Guthrie

It is exactly a champion's mentality to settle for second. If he'd gone all-out for the win and blown the engine, you'd all be griping at him for being reckless, and saying he should have backed off and taken the sure 8 points.
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I would not have been griping at all, if the race was unwinable then yes settle for the 8 points, but as Martin and James said in the coverage, Michaels Ferrari was in (possible) brake dramas, so why not push him and see if he (M.S) made a mistake?
I still believe that JPM couldve won that race
 
Originally posted by Mike Rotch
Hakinnen
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Not again with this wrong spelling:(.

It's not Hakinnen, it's Häkkinen.
It's not Raikers, it's Räikkönen.

God is it really so hard to spell Finnish names? Even without the scandinavian alphabets?
 
yes sry (;) )

I think Juan should of pushed instead of just quitting like that...
Its not the first time he does that tho...
Btw a REAL Champion wouldnt of quitted like that... its kinda childish... a Shumi is infront by 3 secs and he might have break problems but theres 10 laps left lets settle for 2cond...
i call that quitting
 
Originally posted by vrmx

God is it really so hard to spell Finnish names
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There is no point asking Him, he wont know :p

And :yawn:, I use the moniker 'Raikers", just like people use DC, or MS or Reubino. So, as i dont consider and Finnish drivers more important than others, I chose to use abbreviations.

As for "Haks", heaven forbid I accidentally put in a double 'n' instead of a double 'k'

:eek:
 
It was a rubbish race, after the first lap. It promised so much and delivered nothing. It was pretty much even between MS and JPM, apart from the half dozen laps in JPM's second stint, and Michael at the beginning. Before they got to Frentzen Montoya would maybe take a hundreth or less out of MS's 2 second lead. Then Montoya got stuck behind Frentzen and Baumgartner and the lead was 7 seconds with 10 laps to go. Why push for the win and take maybe 5 tenths in the last laps? No point. Conserve the car. Look what that's done for Richard Burns.
Then we have Kimi and Reubens (sp? I don't care) who were nose to tail from the second pitstop. Nothing happened there. So, we look to Gene and DC to provide us with a decent fight in the closing stages, and the Mclaren breaks down. Great. Thank god it was the quickest race ever. Even some of 2002's races were better. Just.

PS A "real" champion can be anyone with any attitude to racing. The total points at the end of the season is what matters, not the way you race. Scoring all wins and DNFs won't get you anywhere - look what that's done for Marcus Gronholm. (I'm aware that Gronholm's car keeps breaking down. It was just an example.)

All that typing has made me tired, so I'm off to bed. G'night
 
also look at nigel mansel in the 1986 and 87 season he won the most races in the two years but lost the chapionship as well.
i also think keki rosberg won a world chapionship in 1982 with one win and consistant podiums.
 
andrew pitt won the supersport bike series last year withour winning a race. what kind of a champion becomes a champion by relying on others to drop out?
 
Originally posted by Mike Rotch
andrew pitt won the supersport bike series last year withour winning a race. what kind of a champion becomes a champion by relying on others to drop out?
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It happens - sometimes the points set-up of a championship rewards consistent finishers. Does it make him any less of a champion than the guy who wins a third of the races but chucked it in the scenery the other two thirds? Not in my book. It would be nice to see them win at least one - you could make it a rule if you want.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
It happens - sometimes the points set-up of a championship rewards consistent finishers. Does it make him any less of a champion than the guy who wins a third of the races but chucked it in the scenery the other two thirds? Not in my book. It would be nice to see them win at least one - you could make it a rule if you want.
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I hear ya about consistency in results being rewarded, but winning a championship without winning a race (like burns looks like doing in the WRC this year) just doesnt sit right.

Sorta like the feeling you get when eating a greasy cheesy burger right before running around a lot
 
Originally posted by Mike Rotch
I hear ya about consistency in results being rewarded, but winning a championship without winning a race (like burns looks like doing in the WRC this year) just doesnt sit right.

Sorta like the feeling you get when eating a greasy cheesy burger right before running around a lot
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Fair comment - an example would be when Jochen Rindt was killed. The FIA attempted to pass through a rule that dead drivers couldn't win the championship - imagine winning THAT title!
 
Originally posted by James1985
also look at nigel mansel in the 1986 and 87 season he won the most races in the two years but lost the chapionship as well.
i also think keki rosberg won a world chapionship in 1982 with one win and consistant podiums.
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You could probably argue that the major reason Rosberg won was Pironi's career ending accident at Hockenheim that year too, given his lead in the championship and the dominance of the Ferraris over the Williams.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
It happens - sometimes the points set-up of a championship rewards consistent finishers. Does it make him any less of a champion than the guy who wins a third of the races but chucked it in the scenery the other two thirds? Not in my book. It would be nice to see them win at least one - you could make it a rule if you want.
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I absolutely disagree. The Champion should, in my book, be champion because he has defeated his rivals. In order to do that he should be able to do it not only over a whole season, but in any given event.

The year Burns was World Rally Champion, he won only one event. Three other drivers each won three events that year. A championship points system that facilitates that is out of kilter, in my opinion.

Back to Monza though, Michael Schumacher had Montoya hammered in Sector 2, which really meant that Montoya's chances of passing were fairly slim, because if they left Sector 1 0.7 seconds apart, at the end of Sector 2, they would have been 1.4 seconds apart, which meant that Montoya would have had to have been at least 1.5 seconds quicker in Sector 3 and then down to the Rettifilio, which was unlikely given the Ferrari's lower-drag configuration ideal for the pit straight.

The difference then is that the driver knew he was beaten. Burns tools around in third place because he lacks the will to go for the win, which is not an accusation that could be levelled at Montoya.
 
then that comes back to the new points system then dont it? with the more points now on offer, paying down to 8th position and 8 points for second instead of 6, it does not give the drivers the motivation, in Burns' case, to go for the win
So just sitting back and collecting points seems to be the way to go? Not IMO, to be a champion, I think, you should have to at least win 1 event in the season
 
Originally posted by Bollocks#999
then that comes back to the new points system then dont it? with the more points now on offer, paying down to 8th position and 8 points for second instead of 6, it does not give the drivers the motivation, in Burns' case, to go for the win
So just sitting back and collecting points seems to be the way to go? Not IMO, to be a champion, I think, you should have to at least win 1 event in the season
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:cheers:
 
Originally posted by Bollocks#999
then that comes back to the new points system then dont it? with the more points now on offer, paying down to 8th position and 8 points for second instead of 6, it does not give the drivers the motivation, in Burns' case, to go for the win
So just sitting back and collecting points seems to be the way to go? Not IMO, to be a champion, I think, you should have to at least win 1 event in the season
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Well it's interesting that the same points system that has helped to create one of the most interesting F1 seasons in years has simultaneously created a World Rally Championship that is likely to yield a champion who has not won a single round. In other words, something of a mockery.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
Well it's interesting that the same points system that has helped to create one of the most interesting F1 seasons in years has simultaneously created a World Rally Championship that is likely to yield a champion who has not won a single round. In other words, something of a mockery.
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:lol: Well spotted
 

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