Online Racing Etiquette

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The Competitive Racing License is working.

I've observed dozens of drivers being courteous, holding the racing line, giving up positions.

Project Cars 2 online is a very pleasant place to be at the moment, and I hope it continues.

With my opinion inked, there is of course some unnecessary contact, or the occasional punt off.

But it doesn't appear to be intentional, more of lack of knowledge.

So, if I may, I'd like to share a piece written by Inverty on the gamefaqs forum six years ago dealing with Racing Etiquette 101.

Ever been online and been accused/accused someone of being a dirty racer? Been rammed and spun out? Hit someone and they spun out? It happens to everyone. Well I'm here to tell you about the most basic rule to remember when throwing around accusations:

Whoever has the racing line has the right of way(track position in racing speak).

I shouldn't need to tell anyone what the racing line is, but when it involves avoiding incidents it can be more than 'the optimum line around the track to keep the most speed'. The most common example of this online is two cars that are traveling side by side on a straight. One car has drafted the other, pulled alongside and they are now approaching a corner. The car that will be on the inside during the corner technically has track position, even if the corner is normally approached from the outside, and the outer drivermust maintain his spot on the outside of the trackthrough the corner.

However, that rule applies only when both cars are side by side (any part of the cars overlap lengthwise). If the outside car is ahead of the inside car by a car length or more (rear bumper in front of the inside cars front bumper) and is on the optimum racing line, the the outside car has track position and is therefore free to take whatever line he pleases through the corner. The inside driver MUST yield in this situation. If in actual F1, for example, this scenario happens and the inside driver fails to yield, an accident will most likely occur and the inside driver will be penalized by the stewards. With changing speeds, either of these scenarios can cross into the realm of the other very quickly, so you must be aware of the other car's position and closing speed as best you can. If you have any doubt, maintain your place on the track but keep your speed, so if you're on the inside and aren't sure if you're alongside the other car entering a fast corner, keep your position but don't keep accelerating should the other car move in front. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Some further tips to avoid incidents:

- Do not try to force a pass on a slower car, especially on very technical and narrow pieces of track like the beginning of the Nordschleife. Wait for a straight and pass.

- In the same vein, if you are being approached by a clearly faster car, give them space to pass. Otherwise you are very likely to both end up in the ditch, ruining your own race as well.

- Do not constantly block. In F1, cars are allowed to make one move across the track to block and must remain in that position while the trailing car either passes or fails on the original line.

- Don't race in rooms of 12-16 people doing a 2 lap race if you want clean races. The short length of the race and high amount of cars on track will make everyone very aggressive to make up as much ground as possible, a nightmare for clean racing. A nice 4-6 lap race with 6-12 people is much more satisfying and easygoing.

- Let the race develop in the first lap. Drivers of different skill and cars of different speed will naturally settle into a position, don't be too aggressive in this stage of the race.

- If you do spin out, don't rush to get back on track. Use the minimap to determine if any cars are fast approaching. Think: getting back onto a highway after stopping on the shoulder. Which also leads to...

- Don't assume you're a ghost or the ghost in front of you will remain one. They can change at the last second and you'll both spin out.

- Don't go around making accusations constantly over small bumps, it just makes others lose trust in you and you might even end up getting kicked yourself. Racing is not an exact science. After everything you can do to avoid accidents, you can and still will have them. Live and let live.
 
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- Do not constantly block. In F1, cars are allowed to make one move across the track to block and must remain in that position while the trailing car either passes or fails on the original line.
IndyCar rules are that your move has to be proactive rather than reactive. I'd say that prevents incidents.
 
Yes fully agree. I've only completed about 5 online races (tried about 10 but failed for various disconnect issues etc.) and the driving has been much improved!

I've been testing ffb settings at Monza trying to get some braking/lock up ffb feel, probably the worst track of all to find the idiots and only in 1 race did I get t-boned, brake tested and encountered the slow weaver on the straight after they spun. All the rest were clean.

I mean, at Monza! I had a race where I crawled past someone on a straight and they didn't turn into me... twice in one race! That's a whole new experience. I've also seen people give me room down the inside... at Monza! And I've offered room on the outside of a corner and they didn't turn across me.

I haven't encountered one single idiot parked on the racing line of parabolica in the final 2 few minutes of quali either. How mad is that?

I thought all this correct driving were a bugs for a moment ;)
 
@mattikake I drive monza in gt3 class regularly. Very enjoyable and had the same experience as you!

I'll be online at about 18h CEST probably running this session on PS4 if people want to join.
 
I was suprised too. Guys with cold tires moving out of the racing line, when i was doing fast quali lap. Nice. But still the first corner in the race is a mess.
I dont know how to avoid it. Qualifing first is not a solution. I´m costantly wrecked in the first corner. Lastly at Spa, I was trying to avoid that by not to turn to "La source" but go straight and turn just before the barier. No luck...
 
I was hoping to see the option of a start being red flagged it there are too many crashes at the start. Could be scripted or the power of the host, if there is a lot of contact.
 
I was hoping to see the option of a start being red flagged it there are too many crashes at the start. Could be scripted or the power of the host, if there is a lot of contact.

I don't agree and refer back to track etiquette. The infamous turn one pile ups while annoying, are manageable by your own patience.
If you qualify on pole and have a great start get through turn one as fast as possible.
Brake late and dive in, get out of there.
If you're on pole and position two out accelerates you, well now you have to deal with the pack as you must give him room as he has track position.

Dealing with the pack in turn one you really only have two options.

Stay on the racing line and dive behind the lead with your face in the mirror hoping whatever behind you is braking, or brake a tad early and go wide with your focus now entirely on the inside line.

I don't advocate this, but some situations you may decide to not qualify in public lobbies.
Just wait out the mistakes and gain positions.

I can generally tell what kind of race I'm going to have just by observing how drivers are qualifying, and take mental notes of their names... who's fast, who's average (like me) and who to stay the hell away from because they can't lay a clean lap down.
 
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