Perfectly good MX5 scrapped, the world is going mad

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Mazda MX5 Convertable Breaking

Glen Eagles Edition

21000miles

Yes its another goverment scrappage scheme vehicle

The previous owner must have been barking mad because this is a lovely car , only done 21000 miles .

Everything on the car is mint i.e the interior the roof etc etc

Sorry but please do not ask to buy the car complete as im unable to do so , its has to be scrapped , in saying that i can sell all the parts .

Im starting the listing with a wheel nut , please ask if there's anything you need

I got sent this in an email earlier today, this is insanity.

Why did someone feel that they had to scrap this car instead of selling it on?

What an IDIOT

:sick::mad::irked::boggled::odd::scared::dunce::banghead:
 
It has got a vile interior, though:sick:

It would be sad if that were true, but I wonder if he made that up so that the ad would get more views???
 
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Good lord!

While I can't honestly judge someone from scrapping a car in order to receive more money (a 1998 Mondeo worth £1500, for example), I cannot see why you'd do it when the car is worth the same amount or even more than the fixed scrappage bonus. Madness really.
 
While I can't honestly judge someone from scrapping a car in order to receive more money (a 1998 Mondeo worth £1500, for example), I cannot see why you'd do it when the car is worth the same amount or even more than the fixed scrappage bonus. Madness really.

That is exactly what I mean 👍

offer him 10,000 for all the parts.

reassemble.

sell

profit!

It's not as easy as that, once a vehicle has been accepted into the scrappage scheme it must be broken up never to be re-assembled as complete ever again. Also you must be madder than the person who traded it for scrap in the first place if you would be prepared to pay £10k for that car and think you had even the remotest chance of selling it on for profit :dopey:
 
I think I can sum this up with an equation

Human Stupidity = anything/0 = infinity
 
ok, then buy all but drivetrain, then talk to www.monstermiata.com/ and get the rest sorted!

Still will not work.

A car that has been taken in as part of the UK government scrapage scheme can never be registered for the road again (the DVLA will not re-register the car).

Which is exactly why, at times this scheme has been little more than total madness.


Scaff
 
Yep that's the problem with any form of government. During my school day for one month I worked as an intern at a service area for computers that came from local area schools for repair or to be put through a system to be recycled eventually. Some of this stuff is just trashed and I don't know if PCB can be recycled.
 
Such a shame. I quite like these lil things even if I'm a foot too tall to fit.
 
Thats terrible, the owner could have sold it to some collector for probably more than 2 grand. I heard another example where an old man came in with some rare vintage car and wanted to scrap it, the dealer was so distraught at seeing such a car going to be scrapped he paid the man something like 4 grand out of his own pocket for it.

There also was some program about this scheme on in the UK a while back showing some cars which had been exchanged to be scrapped. They had an AA man look at them and he said all were in fine working order and could easily do another 10-15 years of driving.

All in all its a crazy scheme, its only good if your car is on its last knee's.

Robin.
 
Still will not work.

A car that has been taken in as part of the UK government scrapage scheme can never be registered for the road again (the DVLA will not re-register the car).

I was discussing this with a friend today, actually. Is there really no way around it? I was thinking along the lines of registering the chassis on a Q-plate, removing the chassis and engine numbers etc. Fair enough, it would be registered as a self-build and not worth as much as an equivalent MX5, but worth it to keep it on the road.

The other thing is of course, in the wording. Unable to be registered for the road - surely then it can still be used as a race car? I'm sure someone wanting to compete in the MaX5 championship could buy the car in whole and it could spend the rest of it's years on a circuit...
 
There's get outs. Though one of them is of exceedingly questionable legality so I won't go into it.

The main other one is to buy a second with severe mechanical failure - blown engine or knacked gearbox is enough to take an MX-5 off the road unless you're handy - and transplant all the parts of this car onto it. It'll never be the same Gleneagles - though I'm sure Mazda UK would recognise a stock MX-5 raised to Gleneagles spec as #401 (so long as it's also a 1996 car).
 
Unable to be registered for the road - surely then it can still be used as a race car? I'm sure someone wanting to compete in the MaX5 championship could buy the car in whole and it could spend the rest of it's years on a circuit...

I don't know enough about it to say if this is possible or not, but if you think about it, why not?

Circuits are all private land so as long as you were trailering the car there and back, in theory I suppose you should be ok.
 
I suppose you could also register it abroad as it wouldn't come under the DVLA's jurisdiction, and drive it in the UK...
 
I'd ask the guy if I could buy all the parts off it, including the wheel nut. I don't want the car, I just want all the parts.
 
I would love to have a rummage through those holding yards. I bet there are some real hidden gems in there.
 
I strongly believe that alot of these scrap cars are handed in by widows or others who have inherited a car they don't understand the value of.

They then scrap the car in an effortless way to change it for something they'd find more suitable rather than dealing with independant sales or auctions.
 
That's what I've suspected when I've seen reports of people trying to scrap old 911s or stuff from as early as the 30s. They must have simply inherited it and have no clue of the value.

Luckily, in those cases I have heard that a lot of dealerships have recognised their value and either helped the person sell it on privately or paid money for the car and given them a discount equivalent to scrappage anyway just so something rare isn't crushed.
 
That's hideous. Although to be fair, there's very little information in that picture besides the fact that they look roadworthy. Who knows - half those cars might be rusted through underneath.


I'll bet you they're not though. Except the Kas, obviously.
Don't they have to have a valid MOT to be scrapped? And I'm sure chassis rust is a fail.
 
I was discussing this with a friend today, actually. Is there really no way around it? I was thinking along the lines of registering the chassis on a Q-plate, removing the chassis and engine numbers etc. Fair enough, it would be registered as a self-build and not worth as much as an equivalent MX5, but worth it to keep it on the road.
As Famine has said you could by it and use it as a donor vehicle, but to get it back on the road would be almost unworkable.

Even if you were able to get it on a Q-plate (which is in itself unlikely as you are asking the same people who documented the scrap to re-register it - the DVLA), the fun you would have then insuring it (alongside the premium) would almost certainly not make it cost effective.



The other thing is of course, in the wording. Unable to be registered for the road - surely then it can still be used as a race car? I'm sure someone wanting to compete in the MaX5 championship could buy the car in whole and it could spend the rest of it's years on a circuit...
As long as it passed scrutineering then I don't see a reason why this could not be done, would also depend on the regulations of the race series and track in question.


I suppose you could also register it abroad as it wouldn't come under the DVLA's jurisdiction, and drive it in the UK...
Try and get it re-registered within the EU and they will do a check on the DVLA data-base, which would instantly get it rejected (I used to do these kind of checks for EU vehicles coming into the UK.

Registering it outside the UK would be a maybe, but get stopped in the UK and they do a VIN check and you would be in a world of hassle.

Short answer is that its not worth it.


Scaff
 
"The other method" (you know the one) is a bit easier and more cost effective, though still doesn't get round the insurance thing (it's now a "modified car" despite being the same spec as a standard one) and if you don't quite get all the *scenes deleted* you'd be in an even bigger world of pain.

So in short, still not worth it. The only solution is to rid society of the idiots who'd trade in a mint example of a 1/400 model for £2k off a feckin Hyundai Amica.
 
Don't they have to have a valid MOT to be scrapped? And I'm sure chassis rust is a fail.

An MOT's valid for 12 months - a lot happens in a year. Probably not rusting a whole chassis, but still.

Anyway I was speaking generally - I mean half the cars sitting there might have issues that are simply beyond economical repair. If the clutch went on my dented £300 Passat I'd probably scrap it even if the £2,000 scheme wasn't in force. Difference being I probably wouldn't go and replace it with a new car.
 
Cheers for the further info on re-registering Scaff 👍

That's hideous. Although to be fair, there's very little information in that picture besides the fact that they look roadworthy. Who knows - half those cars might be rusted through underneath.

I'll bet you they're not though. Except the Kas, obviously.

If the Puma is anything like any of the ones I looked at when looking for cars, the rear arches will be returning to the Earth. I've come to the conclusion that the Puma is a brilliant car spoiled because it was built by Ford in the mid-nineties.
 
Between this and the abandoned XJ220, you'd think the world has suddenly given up on good cars. Has Toyota been putting something in the water?
 
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