Pescarolo C60 Judd Vs. Audi R8

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Which do you think is better and/or like more?


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So I did a search for a thread comparing these two awsome cars and didnt find anything.

Which one do you like more and/or think is better?

The two LMP's have almost identical handling and top speed. I got my R8 up to 260mph and my Pesky to 257mph on the Mulsanne.

IMHO I would say the Pesky because of the better tire life, but the Audi is just so beautiful and awsome looking...
 
How 'bout the R8. It's faster, trust me. 356mph is it's record, and it's limits are yet to be reached. The pesky is overrated, IMO.
 
Got to be the Pesky - much much smoother and more balanced to drive; the R8 feels like its on a knife-edge most of the time. I did my comparison around the 'Ring, both with Stage 4's - Pesky won at 5min20.240.

Personally I feel that outright top speed is almost meaningless unless a) its the Test Course b) you're drag racing, which neither car is meant to be good add anyway. Corners are a true test of a car's ability, and the Pescarolo I find is better. It also seems kinder to its rear tyres, useful for longer races.
 
The R8 has more personality, and is more fun drive overall. Both cars handle about the same, but the R8 is faster, so I´ll go with the R8! And there is nothing wrong with it´s tyrelife, as it can go 10 laps at La Sarthe I, if the fueltank was large enough...
 
crimson_menace
How 'bout the R8. It's faster, trust me. 356mph is it's record, and it's limits are yet to be reached. The pesky is overrated, IMO.


Thats great and all, but you would never drive an R8 with that setup on a track other than the test course. When I mean top end speed, I actually mean top speed in a track setting. Sorry I should have clarified this.

So in that case, in my tests, running Sarthe settings, the R8 was only 3mph "faster" than the Pesky.
 
[IKickPigeons]
Thats great and all, but you would never drive an R8 with that setup on a track other than the test course. When I mean top end speed, I actually mean top speed in a track setting. Sorry I should have clarified this.

So in that case, in my tests, running Sarthe settings, the R8 was only 3mph "faster" than the Pesky.

Meh. I run sub 2:50's on Sarthe II with a similiar setup. I've yet to come close to that in the Pesky. But I am biased toward the R8, but the Pesky just ain't for me. The numbers hold true to the R8, and handling is more of an opinion than a number, IMO.
 
To be fair I will have to go with the Audi R8:idea:

Why? Think of it this way:

Isn't it funny how Sony's 'Company Car' on GT4 seems to be a little faster than it's meant to be?, Because in yes, 'Real Life' they are a class down performance-wise from the Audi R8's...:odd:

This should help, if anyone wanted to know what perhaps is the best all-round racer on high-speed
uneven courses:tup:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=61921
 
There's absolutely no question here, it has the be the R8. It's on a knife edge all the time? Maybe, but that means you could never get bored - the Pescarolo almost drives itself by comparison. And as Crimson says, in a flat-out speed test neither of the Pescarolos can touch an R8. It's 20mph clear.

And the Audi is completely gorgeous.

I haven't even mentioned the noise yet... :drool:

And compare the real-life histories at Le Mans :D

DE
 
Dark Elite
I haven't even mentioned the noise yet... :drool:
Are you talking about the noise the R8 makes in the game or in real life? The engine noise in the game is an old sound sample from Gran Turismo's PS1 days. I've never got a good chance to hear it during a race, but it surely doesn't sound like that.

Despite that, I voted for the R8. The Pescarolo is cool, but I just like the R8 more. (the polls seem pretty close.)
 
I mean both real life and GT4... You're right, I noticed a definite difference between the two, but both are awesome :)

DE
 
You know after thinking about this for a good solid 2 months, I have come to realize that I totally love the R8, however, the Pesky is the "better" racer due to its better tire life and solid smooth handling.
 
GT Pro, that is an amazing link and i think everyone here should read it. i voted for the R8. i have never had any trouble controlling it, i think it is one of the better handling cars in the game.as for viewing pleasure, R8 wins...the pesky is good and al but the R8 is a more attractive car. the sound, in real life, is amazing...the clip in the game is ok but R8 wins hands down. and on the tire wear, i have never had a problem with it either. i can make it 2-4 more laps than the minolta in the R8.

R8 get my vote.
 
I'd go with the oloracseP, because it's infinitely cooler than the Audi.
 
opendriver19a
NOthing beats the sound of a turbo V-10 at 8000 rpm:drool:
A turbo V-10 at 8001 rpm ?:sly: :dunce:


On topic" I choose Pesky, just because of the tires. They last longer, which is a big huge gynormus X10000 +.
 
I voted for the Audi R8 because I like it better. it handles better and is generally more fun to drive. yeah it goes through tires but it's still cool.

and in real life, you can't argue with all those le mans wins
 
The C60 for me. It has a much better performance too it, but the R8 has the looks.

But beauty doesn't win races.
EDIT:
Ok, beauty alone doesn't win races...unless the opponents are so amazed they don't drive.
 
leftarmlogan
I voted for the Audi R8 because I like it better. it handles better and is generally more fun to drive. yeah it goes through tires but it's still cool.

and in real life, you can't argue with all those le mans wins
Ford GT40 4 years in a row.
forget the first 2 years it tried.

Enough Said.
 
God why does the Pescarolo have to be so damn ugly?:yuck: The paint is just so horrid. :crazy: I really wanted the R8 to be the better car, but after racing these cars back to back on nurb, the Pesky is way better. It has better grip, better stability, better tire life, and better handling. The only thing the Audi is better at is looks and top speed...
 
Dark Elite
There's absolutely no question here, it has the be the R8. It's on a knife edge all the time? Maybe, but that means you could never get bored - the Pescarolo almost drives itself by comparison. And as Crimson says, in a flat-out speed test neither of the Pescarolos can touch an R8. It's 20mph clear.

And the Audi is completely gorgeous.

I haven't even mentioned the noise yet... :drool:

And compare the real-life histories at Le Mans :D

DE

I'm an R8 300mpher and it has much more potential than the pescarolo plus I'm with Dark Elite's points.

Cheers

T4 GTR
 
Maybe I need better settings for my R8 because at times I think it understeers and has noticably less grip than my pesky... But I have to agree with you guys about the R8 having a higher top speed and being prettier. I guess its preference since the cars are seemingly identical.
 
I voted for the R8. I drove the C60 a few times on Test Track, Sarthe II and Super Speedway and I never found it to be anything amazing, I don't get all the fuss over the tirewear? I was the first to pit in on Super Speedway endurance race which surprised me and I was using the original Pescarolo C60 not the Playstation C60. Now I don't tune the ride height, brakes and all that jazz since I don't know what I'm at and haven't read what to do; so maybe that makes a difference? Regardless I prefer the R8 because I found it has better handling, quicker lap times and the aesthetics are much better than the C60. :scared:

I have yet to try all of my Group C and LMP cars such as the C60 on the 'Ring yet. I'll do that when I finish the 24 hour Sarthe II endurance race.
 
whatupdet
Now I don't tune the ride height, brakes and all that jazz since I don't know what I'm at and haven't read what to do; so maybe that makes a difference?

Yes. It makes a world of difference. Something that most people have found out about the stock suspension settings for the Pescarolo C60 PLaystation car is that it causes masive amounts of understeer. Apparently PD forgot to raise the front end ride height for the '04 Pesky. This super low front end ride height causes the car to simply suck.

Either raise the front end up or pick up settings from Duck: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1941235&postcount=74

Or try these really awsome settings :
http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::4252/Pescarolo-PlayStation-C60-Judd-Race-Car/

Also I hope that you turn ASM off on all your cars and raise TCS for enduro races. You probably didnt get good tire life on the '03 Pesky because you didnt turn ASM off and didnt raise TCS to somehting like 8. ALso what tire compounds did you use? In the '03 Pesky I can use R3/R3 for almost any race and sometimes a R4/R4 combo.

And your right about the R8 having better asthetics. It is simply the best looking LMP.

Try some of those settings, you might find yourself surprised by the performance increase. I am by no means a tuning expert so I just use settings from either Duck or from gtvault.com
 
Originally Posted by [IKickPigeons]
Something that most people have found out about the stock suspension settings for the Pescarolo C60 PLaystation car is that it causes masive amounts of understeer. Apparently PD forgot to raise the front end ride height for the '04 Pesky. This super low front end ride height causes the car to simply suck.

Wouldn't that setting create greater oversteer by shifting weight slightly forward onto the front wheels?
Also, IIRC the R8 is set up the same way stock. Maybe it's a normal setting for LMPs (Like the -3 rear toe in the Formula GT).
 
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