Play Magazine UK #186 - Nothing New - Hints at no day night cycle or dynamic weather

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I just got through reading this supposed exclusive info on GT5 and none of it is new if you read GTPlanet articles and forums. Sorry, it only just arrived in Australia, I searched for it here and didn't see a thread on it, so here goes...

I am very concerned that Sony / Polyphony are already putting the media that they have influence over into damage control before the release of GT5.

The article repeats the point that Gran Turismo looks better than reality and justifies it with comments that GT5 lighting is better than reality because it is frozen at a perfect point in time which happens only once a year:

"The way the sun shines, reflects off something, the way it lights scenery - we seldom have the opportunity to see what we consider 'reality' under the best and most aesthetically pleasing conditions." - Translated quote from Kazunori Yamuchi

"Every time we go out to the circuit and take photos of cars, we get that same impression again. When you see a race on TV, compared to a race in a game, you realise that the reality isn't as shiny or pleasant as the game. However, these 'best conditions' do exist. They happen every once in a while. Maybe, once a year, you'll be watching a race on TV, or you'll be outside, and a cloud will move in an ideal direction, and the sun will shine down at a perfect angle, and maybe just for a moment you'll have this beautiful scene in front of you.

Games... like Gran Turismo, have something of a duty to present the player with the best and most beautiful parts of reality. So our game looks 'realistic' only if you consider reality to only ever look this beautiful for short periods of time. We work hard to represent these rare conditions in our games." Translated quote from KY

"Games like Gran Turismo have a duty to present the most beautiful parts of reality" - Inline bold re-phrasing of KY's comment

This in my mind denies any real time day night cycle, or dynamic weather.

Where is the beauty of a a sunrise, or a sunset taking place, the shift through beautiful red and orange hues as it becomes dusk, or into the cold blues of night, or that moment when the dark clouds move on and the sun gloriously shines down drying a wet track?
 
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That article was long posted on the net. He talk about perfect condition and beauty of it.That was months ago.


But Weather cycle and Day night cycle is confirmed by Kaz himself in most recent interviews. So don't worry.
 
But Weather cycle and Day night cycle is confirmed by Kaz himself in most recent interviews. So don't worry.
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No it isnt, we only have the "night racing on all tracks" from the PTOM and this could still be wrong.
 
Sorry but I think you completely missed the mark on this. The article (which was published probably last Summer) was specifically about how GT games look better than reality, or at least what the interviewer was implying when he asked KY. Kazunori is simply trying to explain his perception of reality and how it relates to the game. As to time cycle will appear in GT5, that's still up in the air.
 
G.T.Ace
No it isnt, we only have the "night racing on all tracks" from the PTOM and this could still be wrong.
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I remember once KAZ mention night racing only on one interview, on other it was mentioned as a cycle. So for me, its confirmed as a cycle. Kaz knows we want it, no wonder there is a HUGE delay again.
 
Well that's good to hear there is still some talk of day night cycle and dynamic weather, to be honest I felt pretty much gutted after reading it, and compelled to post about it, especially when he says we work hard to capture these rare conditions, that is the total opposite of saying we worked hard to implement dynamic conditions.
 
Im still worried about the day/night cycle and weather effects (be it dynamic or not).

Yes, there are some articles that hint that it will be in the game.. but Kaz clearly stated that it will be in IF it adds something and IF they can do it without making sacrifices to the current build (this is from months ago).

And that mag that said it will be in allready took back the their statement about indy carts being in the game.. so im skeptical if we'll see it in the game.
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
I remember once KAZ mention night racing only on one interview, on other it was mentioned as a cycle. So for me, its confirmed as a cycle. Kaz knows we want it, no wonder there is a HUGE delay again.
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Sounds to me like you're just getting your hopes up. Don't get me wrong, those two are the most wanted features for me (more than damage) but seems like you're just interpreting what Kaz said to believe these are going to be in the final release. Hope sometimes leads to disappointment. I seem to recall Kaz mentioning GT5's release would be "shortly after GT PSP" and look where we are now.
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
That article was long posted on the net. He talk about perfect condition and beauty of it.That was months ago.


But Weather cycle and Day night cycle is confirmed by Kaz himself in most recent interviews. So don't worry.
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I think people confuse weather cycle and day/night cycle with racing in the rain or racing at night.
 
In terms of difficulty to design, to code, and to implement,

From easy to harder, I would say:

*** Static Time / Static Weather / Static Environment Conditions:

(constant/frozen) Day racing = (constant/frozen) Night racing
which PD has mastered already.


And then we have two other choice that everyone is wishing for:

*** Dynamic Time (Dawn/Day/Night/Evening switch)
(just like in Assassin's Creed 2, for those who have played it)

*** Dynamic Weather/Environment Conditions (Rain, Wind, Snow, etc...)


Those last two are still up in the air, and nobody knows for sure if they are going to make it in the game. Kaz said he would implement them ONLY AnD ONLY the result is as "perfect" (to his liking) as everything else in the game.

We are all hopeful...
 
maybe the dynamic cycles were in the game and now this current delay is for removing it:sly:

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Saying the game looks better than reality is like saying the game doesn't look like reality.
If that makes any sense lol.
 
you got your pencils all mixed up....


From Kaz point of view, we have three worlds:

1) Arcade car game
2) Reality itself, with all the races and the real car in the world
3) an Ideal Reality, which PD is trying to bring... It's like the Matrix

you dig?! ;)
 
CTznOfTime
3) an Ideal Reality, which PD is trying to bring... It's like the Matrix

you dig?! ;)
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I tell you, if this happens online halfway through a race and some guy in a suit wrecks my car because some other guy won't accept the pretty graphics and decides to rebel and go full h4x in the game, I'll be pretty pissed off.

Maybe enough to boycott >:3
 
Maybe he means that even though the weather changes, it will always be the same as the last time you drove that track at that time.

Just throwin' it out there
 
Or maybe is saying:

"You morons are still waiting for a game after 5 years because I ate too much magic mushrooms and I see a dreamlike world then that I want to recreate in the game..."

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

This is a Driving/Racing game. Not a lightning technich or sight-seeing game!
 
Micdog49
Maybe he means that even though the weather changes, it will always be the same as the last time you drove that track at that time.

Just throwin' it out there
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Idk, but i just read your Sig, and i loathe you. Kidding, but seriously, no pre r35's? the r32 Has to be in it, Period. :scared:
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
I remember once KAZ mention night racing only on one interview, on other it was mentioned as a cycle. So for me, its confirmed as a cycle. Kaz knows we want it, no wonder there is a HUGE delay again.
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Until we get official confirmation on the specification of the game from PD/SONY, nothing is confirmed. Kaz has said a lot of things in interviews, but that doesn't really mean much.
 
it makes me smile reading this interview, Kaz lives in another world.
 
For that kinda news to come out the blue in a magazine, with no press or comment direct from PD or KY doesn't add up, no sirr. It's one of my most wanted features in the game but I shan't believe this stupid magazine.

And you guys who are like "This isn't a lighting game you're all stupid" - Thanks. Thanks...
 
bullie77
Or maybe is saying:

"You morons are still waiting for a game after 5 years because I ate too much magic mushrooms and I see a dreamlike world then that I want to recreate in the game..."

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

This is a Driving/Racing game. Not a lightning technich or sight-seeing game!
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Spot on! I love your piont of view! 👍:sly:
 
Wasn't the "better than reality" quote in regards to the crappy weather in London?
 
This is why magazines aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

This so called "Exclusive" is nothing more than a cut an paste from an interview published in OCTOBER 2009. And who knows how long before that the interview was actually conducted.

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1461/yamauchi-gran-turismo-5-better-than-reality

I've no idea if dynamic weather or day/night cycles will be in, but those comments are too old to be of relevance.
 
I have this awful feeling GT5 is going to be a huge letdown after 5-6 years (my bet is on a December 2010 release). W/O weather, day/night cycles and limited damage, it seems it will be just a glorified GT4-HD with more obsessively detailed cars. We will play it all the same, but disappointed non the less.
 
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