Playing with all HUD options off (inc driving line) is the only way to play

[nib95]

A lot of people talk of boredom in GT games, or in racing games in general, but these are the same people who play with all HUD options on, driving lines on, assists etc, and then feel the need to use cars at the very limit of the PP allowance, in other words, being over powered and so on.

Of COURSE it's going to be easy or monotonous if you play the game like that.

I recently bought a new TV, (Panasonic VT65), and using the G25, playing with ALL menu and HUD options off, including the driving line, and playing in cockpit view with "narrow" selected as the FOV, has been an absolute revelation. It's about 100x more immersive and realistic. At times, if I'd squint it almost looked real.


The thing I've noticed is that if you use the Driving Line and other easier view modes, you not only kill the level of engagement, you pretty much never truly learn any of the tracks or learn to drive properly. It's just a mechanical repetitive procedure of following a line.

If anyone has ever done any real life go-kart racing or track racing, you'll know that usually going in you do NOT know the track properly. You take it easy the first few laps and start learning as you go. That is what you should do in GT6 as well. It's the only way you'll truly learn a track, and is the reason GT games start off easier early on. Novice, National B races etc, they're designed for people who don't know the tracks properly yet.

It'll also mean you are much more likely to make mistakes, as there's no hand holding driving line telling you when you've over shot it.


So to clarify…

If you really want a truly immersive, more realistic and challenging gaming and racing experience in GT6…

- Turn off all the HUD options completely
- Turn off the Driving Line completely
- Drive in cockpit view, with Interior View Angle set to 'Narrow' (this view you can better read the speedometer etc)
- Turn off Assists and put Traction to 0 (matter of taste, some cars you may need SFR and more help)
- Do not feel the need to use a car with the absolute maximum PP permitted
- Turn Race BGM OFF and add extra Bass if your sound system allows it (GT sound needs added rumble)
- Sit closer to your TV than you ordinarily would. The more of it's surrounding you see, the more it breaks immersion


I know others have said similar things in other threads, but honestly, it needs to be drummed in. It's a completely different and considerably more involving experience as played above.

 

[Bluntified]

I've been driving like this since Prologue. Only difference is I rather the bumper can as it sits nice and low and I can see more. However, there are a few cars that I drive in cockpit view, bigger sedans mostly.

No map, aides, anything - just me and the car. Only stipulation is online, I use the map for that to know how the other cars are spread out.

 

[starknight97]

I'll try it. but I may under or over shoot braking a lot.

 

[Bluntified]

Key is to take it easy in the beginning, don't rush and learn the car/track.

 

[Gentoo64]

I've always played with the driving line + all assists off since the first games, makes me feel sick driving with TCS (and the rest) on as you can't feel the car at all and it's no challenge / no fun to me.

I tried turning the HUD off completely (I drive with the "normal" (bumper) view where you can't see anything and think it looks pretty weird. It can be useful to see the revs / what gear you're in, and the cars on map.

 

[starknight97]

I'm doing well without the ui atm, I seem to be preforming better than I do with the display on some tracks.

 

[Truslider]

im doing this too and im loving it as long as im not losing it gets tricky remembering/guessing what place your at and guessing the gear your in. so maybe with some effort i can keep count of my current place and gear im in. and of course if i dont know the track that well then i will turn on the driving line but will turn them off for tracks i do know, but turning off the HUD makes the game more immersive.

i nevered liked the incar view before in any of the previous gt games (ive been playing since gt2), didnt like it in gt5 but im not quite sure what is it but i like it in gt6, my little brother said that the motion of the animation of the steering input is smoother and more natural looking but i dont know, maybe it is maybe im just enjoying the graphics more.

 

[Narbin]

I'm so used to bumper view and with my sony 3d display 24" I can't see crap in cockpit view even when the tv is exactly behind my g25

 

[Connoissuer]

I think this should be a requirement for GT Academy.

 

[Aphelion]

Wait how do you change FOV settings?!?!?!?!?! i thought you couldn't!!??

 

[nib95]

Wait how do you change FOV settings?!?!?!?!?! i thought you couldn't!!??

In any race, just press start, quick options, and it's under FOV or view settings. You can choose from Normal, Narrow, or Narrowest. Narrow I find is the best in-between, as you can just read the rev counter/speedometer perfectly as per a normal real life car, instead of having to look at the UI race display or speed gauge.

 

[Aphelion]

Hmm i just checked and i cant see it there...

 

[nib95]

Hmm i just checked and i cant see it there...

Are you checking whilst actually racing? As in, during a race instead of just before starting one. In quick options you just scroll down a bit to see it. I believe it's just above the music volume options.

 

[Aphelion]

Oh ok just found it under interior veiw angle. i wasnt looking for that so found it! Thanks!

 

[nib95]

Oh ok just found it under interior veiw angle. i wasnt looking for that so found it! Thanks!

That's the one! Have a play around and let me know your thoughts!

 

[Aphelion]

Ok done some quick tests and my thoughts are these. The standard veiw is very much looking from the seat rest; its a bit to far back. the narrowest is far too close, but the narrow view is like seeing from the drivers eyes; you can see the speedometer, but you need to move your eyes to see the wing mirrors. Nice find! ill definitely be sticking with narrow from now on! thanks!

 

[Sick Cylinder]

I agree with nib95 - I love cockpit view (a shame it's too dark in some cars in GT6). It took me ages to win, but I did the Night Masters races in cockpit view, no aids, no music, stick shift, no HUD - the graphics are so fantastic at Mount Panorama at night. Try the lancia Stratos for that event - it's so involving to drive (sports soft rear, sports medium front or sports hard front to make the handling manageable).

I noticed some very strange things with the behaviour of the AI when using the HUD, but when you switch it off you don't get distracted by the varying gap to the lead car etc. Without the HUD it sort of turns the game into a tarmac rally - i.e. it's you v the track.

 

[starknight97]

Turn exposure up if your finding it to be dark.

 

[nursemorph]

Yeah, I can understand where everyone is coming from. Having aids on makes it too easy (my first save game I always had TCS 5..no idea why, on my latest save game I try to have it turned off, though sometimes I need to use it), cockpit view is definitely better (was always using chase cam before), although have to occasionally use it for licences, missions etc for a more precise line. Driving Line, tbh, I always have it on, although I tend to drive a completely different line but I have issues with concentration due to medication and it helps to remind me that I am entering a braking zone (I have switched off for a second before and overshot the braking zone by miles even with the DL on lol), though I ten to brake a lot later than it suggests and most tracks I know where to brake anyway. I have never tried using it without the HUD, so may have a go at that (I use Auto tranny anyway...concentration issues again!... so don't need the gear prompts etc).

Overall, even just turning off TCS as much as possible, using cockpit view and not upgrading cars unless absolutely necessary has made my driving experience 100 times better and much more fun, so I can only imagine what it would be like without the HUD and driving line, using a wheel and using manual transmission! Maybe one day when I can always concentrate fully, I may have to investigate further

 

[nib95]

Yeah, I can understand where everyone is coming from. Having aids on makes it too easy (my first save game I always had TCS 5..no idea why, on my latest save game I try to have it turned off, though sometimes I need to use it), cockpit view is definitely better (was always using chase cam before), although have to occasionally use it for licences, missions etc for a more precise line. Driving Line, tbh, I always have it on, although I tend to drive a completely different line but I have issues with concentration due to medication and it helps to remind me that I am entering a braking zone (I have switched off for a second before and overshot the braking zone by miles even with the DL on lol), though I ten to brake a lot later than it suggests and most tracks I know where to brake anyway. I have never tried using it without the HUD, so may have a go at that (I use Auto tranny anyway...concentration issues again!... so don't need the gear prompts etc).

Overall, even just turning off TCS as much as possible, using cockpit view and not upgrading cars unless absolutely necessary has made my driving experience 100 times better and much more fun, so I can only imagine what it would be like without the HUD and driving line, using a wheel and using manual transmission! Maybe one day when I can always concentrate fully, I may have to investigate further

Try racing with the driving line off too. As in, nothing else on the screen at all. It will make you a much better driver, help you to learn the tracks better and add a big dose of extra challenge. With the driving line on, you're considerably less likely to make mistakes or veer off course, even if you don't follow it properly, it's still an indicator of speed, braking zones, distances etc. Without it it's the deep end where only intuition and memory can help you.

 

[nursemorph]

Try racing with the driving line off too. As in, nothing else on the screen at all. It will make you a much better driver, help you to learn the tracks better and add a big dose of extra challenge. With the driving line on, you're considerably less likely to make mistakes or veer off course, even if you don't follow it properly, it's still an indicator of speed, braking zones, distances etc. Without it it's the deep end where only intuition and memory can help you.

Yeah, I can understand that and, if I was able, I would definitely try it without. Unfortunately, at the moment, I just don't have the concentration needed and, while I don't follow the driving line as such, I do use it to keep my concentration. Am hoping in the future things improve (namely coming off of the shedload of painkillers that kill my concentration!) and then I can really immerse myself fully in the game. Having said that, I am still greatly enjoying the game as I have it now, even if it is quite infuriating at times!!

 

[zujca]

I'd probably start playing like that at some part if I had a wheel and I'm not going to spend all the money to get one as I enjoy Gran Turismo with my DS3. I use TCS on 1 and ABS on 1.

 

[EbbyRed]

Now that there have been a couple posts regarding this, I am curious, what are people's favorite cars to drive in this mode? Particularly cars that have nice dashboards and a good high quality internal view.

My favorite two right now are the Golf IV GTI and the Diablo GT2.

 

[akyp]

It would be ok if I can actually see the tach needle on some premium cars. On cars with bright readable tachs I try to ignore the HUD tach. I drive with driving line turned off always.

 

[nursemorph]

Now that there have been a couple posts regarding this, I am curious, what are people's favorite cars to drive in this mode? Particularly cars that have nice dashboards and a good high quality internal view.

My favorite two right now are the Golf IV GTI and the Diablo GT2.

My guess would be the GT-R Black would be a good one for driving this way. It's my favourite interior so far, mainly because I love the computer screen in the middle of the dash that does whatever it does (can't remember what it showed but it was cool nonetheless) and the dials are pretty clear. Certainly, if I was going to try and drive with everything off, that would be one I'd look forward to

 

[nib95]

Yeah, I can understand that and, if I was able, I would definitely try it without. Unfortunately, at the moment, I just don't have the concentration needed and, while I don't follow the driving line as such, I do use it to keep my concentration. Am hoping in the future things improve (namely coming off of the shedload of painkillers that kill my concentration!) and then I can really immerse myself fully in the game. Having said that, I am still greatly enjoying the game as I have it now, even if it is quite infuriating at times!!

Fair enough. Best of luck with whatever it is you have to use the meds for and hope all goes well.

It's better to start off the game without the driving line tbh, as the earlier races are easy enough that you have the leeway to learn the tracks properly first. The latter races you sort of need to vaguely know the tracks to stand a fighting chance, but even if you don't, it's surprising how quickly people pick things up under pressure.