Possible triple screen setup?

[left888]

You should probably quit betting your head against the wall. Some people here feel thier way is the only way to do things and dont have the time or the will to hear anything that isnt praise. hell even my 10 year old nephew knows its better to lock frame rates, but some folks know it all already. Please keep giving your tips though alot is very useful. 👍

I really don't know what you are trying to say here? "betting your head against the wall"? "10 year old nephew knows its better to lock frame rates" you should maybe take a couple spelling lessons from him

DOH!!!

Lefty the point he is making is the Asus does it on a "single card"
It is one of the advantages which may not appeal to many but in his case is a useful feature.

Then again you often take people up the wrong way or miss the point being put across.

nVidia does make single GPU's that support triple monitors.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0371828

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0381793

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0381762

Um, Latte, which one of the three links were you have troubles reading? They are all single GPU's that provide triple screen support. Once again it is YOU who has missed the point.

Your lack of an even remotely intelligent response says all I need to hear from you sir.

Thank you for the entertainment.

Best wishes.

Best wishes to you as well, please keep entertaining us though.

The reason we have these types of arguments is because certain people like to veil underhanded comments as legitimate criticism. Then when people pose counterpoint or call BS they're made out to be unreasonable, even when there is a history of this type of "hit and run" posting.

This forum is infamous for that. There are a couple people really who do this. Check post history and you can guess who.

Once I stopped laughing at your post I realized you were referring to yourself, look at you and mr latte, every time you comment in the same thread you two argue for 2 or 3 pages. Practically every time you post at ISR Darin needs to tell you to cool it. Have you caught any more people breaking into your Paypal account that you would like to publicly announce? (lol) Do you think they caught that guy that hacked Fanatecs website when he stole all that money from you? Best of luck mayaman in getting the Fanatec beta tester.

 

[Mayaman]

Exhibit A ladies and gentlemen. I'll wait for exhibit B shortly. Guilty conscious is amazing isn't it?

 

[left888]

Highlighted the important part...

Reminds me of my last bout....
Did you know that onboard audio has no disadvantage/difference to dedicated soundcards. Let's just ignore all the benchmarks and reviews that show otherwise. Oh and that's the opinion coming from the same self claimed "past audiophile".

Yet who has shall we say, a less than optimal speaker configuration and even has two speakers on the floor. Some people just cant take criticism or advice it seems.

These forums, it is impossible to have "actual hardware topical discussion" yet share each others opinions without it becoming an issue.

Nobody ignored anything latte, however I did show you the post from the lead sound engineer on pCARS. It was you who ignored his comments.

Truth be told latte 15 years ago on board sound was terrible, now a days it is very good. Any ways here is the quote from Stephen Baysted
Audio Director & Compose of pCARS.

Hi chaps,

Personally guys - and it's only my opinion - those cards seem to be pretty damn good judging by the specs for playback BUT...

If it were me (speaking not as a composer, but a gamer) I would invest more of my money in a good speaker and headphone setup as the return on investment would be much much greater. Remember, it doesn't matter whether a sound card can do 20hz-20khz at -120db s/nr or whatever if, for example, your speakers can't push out anything below 60hz you're not going to hear any meaningful bass. Adding a cheap subwoofer doesn't really help either. (and don't get me started on acoustic room treatment either )

Headphone wise for music, I use mainly Beyerdynamic DT990 pros since I know them very well indeed I can check mixes on them ( I have a pair of Sennheiser HD650 s too though they are broken sadly ) - though tbh I don't use headphones that much apart from checking mixes and game sound. I deliberately use the on-board crap sound card on my dev PC but I can switch it into my studio monitors or my crappy 5.1 logitech setup so I can check what it sounds like. To be honest, and this will perhaps surprise many of you, there isn't *that* much difference in quality between me using the 3.5mm jack out of the headphone socket of my dev pc into my studio monitors or hooking my Avid M box 2 or my MOTU 8 pre thing and using quality XLR into my monitors. Hence why, IMO, for gaming and general stuff it's worth investing more in speakers than in a sound card.

YMMV of course

Cheers

Exhibit A ladies and gentlemen. I'll wait for exhibit B shortly. Guilty contious is amazing isn't it?

What is a contious? were you trying to spell conscious? No I don't have a guilty conscious but please don't try and pass yourself as an innocent party on these forums. If you are going to be one of the first to cast a stone I suggest you look in the mirror.

 

[Mayaman]

Actually, I am innocent on these forums. I've added tons of how to tips here on both motion and triple projection.

To be perfectly honest the only people I see arguing and creating drama on here are you and exhibit B.

Actually, it's the same BS in every thread of drama. Exhibit A and B either telling untruths about someone, or talking about how the forum would be better without someone. It's comical. For the record, I don't dislike you. But you're an abrasive person. Look at the way you attacked superbike and immediately went to insults.

Meh, why do I care? LOL. This is all silly fantasyland Internet rubbish.

But I digress. I hope the guy finds his triple monitor solution.

 

[left888]

Actually, I am innocent on these forums. I've added tons of how to tips here on both motion and triple projection.

innocent of what, certainly not trolling. You jumped at me the first chance you had in this thread

To be perfectly honest the only people I see arguing and creating drama on here are you and exhibit B.

Actually, it's the same BS in every thread of drama. Exhibit A and B either telling untruths about someone, or talking about how the forum would be better without someone. It's comical. For the record, I don't dislike you. But you're an abrasive person.

I really don't understand what you are saying here other then you like to stir the pot?

Look at the way you attacked superbike and immediately went to insults.

You have no idea what you are talking about, the conversation superbike and I had was from an iRacing thread, since you don't iRace you don't know a thing about it.

 

[Mayaman]

Ok friend. I'm evil troll and you're good. See, all is right with the world.

Now back to fake cars we like to drive.

 

[Mr Latte]

Firstly and I don't need to go into "mega quote" mode here. That makes everything look like an argument and not a discussion. Telling others to step back and read what they post is maybe good advice for yourself lefty. Why bring the attitude, that is the problem with these forums the attitude often turns so sour...

Superbike clearly was discussing 5x Portrait and stated his card runs upto 6 monitors.

Did you miss this point?

Oh yet you go ahead and link various Nvidia cards that supports 4 monitors to prove your right and I am wrong. One problem though, who was talking about more than 3 monitors?

Please go away and now find an Nvidia card that does what he/we were discussing, that's 5 monitors in an surround/eyefinity capacity which he needs in his configuration. Let me say again you missed the point being discussed. One card upto 6 screens, simple.


To carry an argument forward. You want to bring up the audio thing in here do you?

As for the audio what a developer states with his configuration is hardly scientific or anything close to what proper bench testing and dedicated reviews achieve. Again you have to be so stubborn to ignore the point that their are dozens, maybe hundreds of "factual results" which show onboard audio has limations and drawbacks. Many forums have people commenting on how their sound improved by adding a quality audio card, are they all imagining things as well?

You may argue all you want and yes the difference to the end user will always vary that I agree. Personally I like many would rather use a higher end or better performing solution particularly when using speakers that should make advantage of a less distorted and more dynamic audio output. Just like you have in your own configuration. Yet you make me out to be the smart ass when clearly the evidence is available to back up my "recommendation" that your own setup would benefit from a dedicated soundcard. Oh but youd rather go blow approx $300 on a rev counter and say a good soundcard is a waste of money.

Your wrong on both these accounts, just like you were not technically correct about the 120Hz HDMI thing and btw it is "Suzuka" not "Susuka".

Yet it is others that should step back and read what they are saying isn't it.

Pointless trying to be reasonable with you.

 

[left888]

Latte, the OP was discussing going triple monitors with one card. He thought his GTX 680 could do the job. Once he realized it could not he wanted to learn more. I posted 3 cards that could run triple monitors. Do you understand that much?

I do not care what Superbike was discussing at that point. Are we clear on that point?

Latte, once again you baffle me with your ignorance, a few post back you brought up the audio thing, now you accuse me of bringing it up now?

You are a complete novice when it concerns PC's, you purchase ready made PC's and quote from other PC sources. Look at any of your cockpit threads, they are laden with web pics and sources you have copy and pasted. Now you have the nerve to try and tell me about your recommendations?


I have no clue what you are talking about "120Hz HDMI thing" please refresh my memory. If you need time to go Google it so you can copy and paste a reply I can wait for a little while.

Go look in my cockpit thread you stated it has been a while since you played iRacing, then in you cockpit thread you state you have never played iRacing, time to get your story straight latte.

 

[sesselpupser]

Guys, please take this somewhere else or just give up, this thread is now probably 20% argument but the other 80% is good information and we could continue to use it to discuss triple or quintuple monitor solutions, but if you just keep bickering it'll get closed and we'll have to start all over again.

I would've thought you'd all be old enough and wise enough to know that arguing on the internet is for idiots and children, and if someone is dispensing toys from their pram just shrug it off as it's their problem, I don't understand why people feel the need to be the one to get that last dig in before the thread gets locked.

If you really want to argue with one another there's a perfectly good PM system, there's no need to make it public.

 

[left888]

You are right neema_t, my apologies for my part. I was trying to be helpful at the beginning.

 

[superbike81]

Latte, the OP was discussing going triple monitors with one card. He thought his GTX 680 could do the job. Once he realized it could not he wanted to learn more?

On topic......

OK now you've got everyone confused. The GTX680 absolutely will do three screens, it will do them much better than those other cards you posted.

 

[Mr Latte]

Here is the best answer, sorry lefty you are always right, never make any mistakes and we are all fools to challenge your intelligence.

Superbike clearly stated his position, he made reference to you and this was being discussed as part of the varying features of different solutions/brands. The OP was not needing or wanting more than 3 screens. Oh and he has a 580 not a 680, geees.

You always try to worm out of something by laying on more waves of attack to divert the discussion. The above post of yours is just another example.

You certainly for me are one of the most insulting posters on these forums.

Iracing - I played it years ago, not seriously, so forgive the confusion. I have experienced it but not properly, like "really played" it. Is this enough information for you now.

PCs- I built many high end systems, had triple screens when TFTs first appeared. I even sold some PCs I built in the past (yet according to you I know nothing about them). My current own system was not ready made you fool so get your facts right before insulting people.


Does this look off the shelf to anyone?

Audio - The truth is out their and you will find hundreds of reviews, youtube videos, written articles and if that isn't enough then write to Asus and ask them what are the advantages of their soundcards over their own motherboard audio. Yet you still want to argue the point because some dev says their isn't much difference.

No wonder you are single.

 

[left888]

On topic......

OK now you've got everyone confused. The GTX680 absolutely will do three screens, it will do them much better than those other cards you posted.

The link I provided was to older cards, just to show that nVidia did offer triple screen support prior to the release of the GTX 680, I did not make that point clear though, did I. . If you read a couple more post I even stated I would recommend going for the GTX680

 

[superbike81]

I don't know if I would say nVidia "offered" single card triple screen surround solutions. Those are uniquely modified cards done by a certain manufacturer. Even nVidia's website (before the release of the 680) said that SLI was required to do 3-screen surround.

 

[Mr Latte]

The 590 offered it and with 3D Surround too.
A dual GPU card but still I think was the proper first Nvidia reference card to do so.

 

[superbike81]

Yeah, the dual GPU cards can do it of course, but they have built in SLI essentially.

 

[Mr Latte]

Sorry I know nothing about PC's and I don't have 8 of them laying around it was only a guess

 

[left888]

Those are uniquely modified cards done by a certain manufacturer.

Well you could say that about any card that is not a reference card.

Sorry I know nothing about PC's and I don't have 8 of them laying around it was only a guess

No wonder you are single.

Latte, if you don't stop your continuous trolling this thread will get closed.
I informed you I have a girlfriend since my wife died, do you want to keep up with the insults?

 

[superbike81]

Well you could say that about any card that is not a reference card.

True, but you must draw the line somewhere. Changing the fans, heatsinks, and other things are one thing, but there must be some fairly in-depth changes involved to get a single GPU single card to support three monitors, or else nVidia would have done it years ago.

I know next to nothing about hardware engineering, so maybe it's really easy to do, but then I wonder why don't all the card manufacturers do this?

With the GTX 680 though it's all made a moot point anyways, as it's now supported direct from nVidia.

 

[Mr Latte]

Lefty, OMG do you know the difference between a joke and trolling.

Your gf deserves a medal if you get on like this at home.
Excuse my posts you referred to me as having a mental condition.

 

[left888]

True, but you must draw the line somewhere. Changing the fans, heatsinks, and other things are one thing, but there must be some fairly in-depth changes involved to get a single GPU single card to support three monitors, or else nVidia would have done it years ago.

I know next to nothing about hardware engineering, so maybe it's really easy to do, but then I wonder why don't all the card manufacturers do this?

With the GTX 680 though it's all made a moot point anyways, as it's now supported direct from nVidia.

To tell you the truth I think triple screen gaming was not that important to nVidia until they saw what ATI was doing. It really has only been a few years that triple screen gaming has taken off.

 

[Mr Latte]

With the GTX 680 though it's all made a moot point anyways, as it's now supported direct from nVidia.

Yes and even with supposed hardware support many games still have issues with multiscreens or sli / xfire configurations.

I think both camps could really improve things and work closer with developers to ensure when a game releases it works as it should. Not weeks/months later with updates/patches.

 

[RobJackson85]

So today I try the SoftH route of going triple screen.

My conclusion - I still think I need a bigger PSU! Currently I have a 650w.

When I plug in my 9800gt along with the GTX580 my PC goes to boot, shows the Bios screen then says 'loading operating system' to which it then cuts out and tries to boot again.

I think I'll have to re-evaluate my options, do I try the Matrox route (although my monitor doesn't support 50hz so will run at the next best res), or do I sell this 580 and go for ATI?

 

[sesselpupser]

So today I try the SoftH route of going triple screen.

My conclusion - I still think I need a bigger PSU! Currently I have a 650w.

When I plug in my 9800gt along with the GTX580 my PC goes to boot, shows the Bios screen then says 'loading operating system' to which it then cuts out and tries to boot again.

I think I'll have to re-evaluate my options, do I try the Matrox route (although my monitor doesn't support 50hz so will run at the next best res), or do I sell this 580 and go for ATI?

Frankly, if I were you I'd try the Matrox before swapping to an AMD (ATI) card. That's just my personal opinion but it'll take a lot of convincing to get me to go back to AMD. Not that the hardware is bad, I just don't get on with the software. Your opinion may vary (and probably does).

For me, though, there's no contest. I'm sure I can sell my 580 for a high enough price (£205) to make the upgrade to a 680 the cheapest option between the Matrox or a better card. The 7970 isn't any cheaper, either, but I'm not sure if that's the card you're looking at. I'm now just saving so I can buy a 680 before selling my 580 just in case I sell the 580, the 680 is all out of stock and I can't use my PC for weeks or something equally stupid. I'm prone to such lapses in judgement and/or timing, you see.

 

[RobJackson85]

Frankly, if I were you I'd try the Matrox before swapping to an AMD (ATI) card. That's just my personal opinion but it'll take a lot of convincing to get me to go back to AMD. Not that the hardware is bad, I just don't get on with the software. Your opinion may vary (and probably does).

For me, though, there's no contest. I'm sure I can sell my 580 for a high enough price (£205) to make the upgrade to a 680 the cheapest option between the Matrox or a better card. The 7970 isn't any cheaper, either, but I'm not sure if that's the card you're looking at. I'm now just saving so I can buy a 680 before selling my 580 just in case I sell the 580, the 680 is all out of stock and I can't use my PC for weeks or something equally stupid. I'm prone to such lapses in judgement and/or timing, you see.

Whilst hoovering my living room, I think I may have had a brain wave - or just a complete random thought. If anybody here has experience with SoftH, could I just not use the on board graphics instead of another card?

Matrox route, unless I get one second hand it will be £200+, for that I would rather buy another 580 and upgrade my PSU, if I was to get one around the price your looking for yours ( ) plus upgrade my PSU would bring me in under £300. However I've heard that iRacing doesn't play well in an SLI config. Yet thinking that way, I'll have spent pretty much the same as getting a single 680. (probably would need a bigger PSU either way)

Also having a quick browse over on the official iRacing forums, it looks like with AMD you need adapters. Ideally I would just like a plug and play solution.

 

[RobJackson85]

Sorry for the double but it won't let me edit my previous post on the iPad.

Anyways, last night I took my first Ste into multi screen racing. I bout my second monitor and decided to try out the SoftTH software. I must say, it is much simpler than I expected to set up and I'm quite happy with the results. I still need to setup the bezel correction yet though.

I'm 100% committed to going the SLi route, but in the mean time I'll be using the software. So all I need now is another GTX 580, an upgraded PSU and another monitor.

I currently have a 650w power plant, what would be best to upgrade too?

Anyways, back to my experience. Due to the way my setup is at the moment I have the extra screen on the left of my main window. I tried a quick practice at the Motegi oval in the IndyCar and had a moment coming into turns 1 & 2 where my spotter didn't tell me of a car on the inside, luckily though with the extra screen I could see them and avoid some contact. I can't wait to try it on a road course as I've heard it helps to hit the apex.

 

[bermudakid]

800-850 watts sets you up pretty well now and anything in the future. A good power supply will last you several PC builds. I build a new PC every year and I've had the same PSU for the last 4.