Powershifting in GT5 [VIDEO ADDED]

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Hello there, I just want to tell you that (even though some of you will be in denial) powershifting is actually modeled in GT5.
Powershifting is there but it's nowhere as unrealistic as in GT5:Prologue so you can't shift with throttle at 100% but as I've tested it's possible with about 90/95% throttle application.

I'll record a video later, I used a stock Ferrari 512BB on Monza. I realised I was powershifting since I heard that distinctive sound you get from increased rpm for that split second after changing gear, that caught my attention and when I checked the replay I saw my throttle was 90% open at most times.


So, what this tells us...
#1 stop crying about PD "not doing their job" correctly and GT5 beeing unrealistic
#2 PD has done a bloody good job on modeling, I'm properly amazed


Here's the video:




Enjoy.
 
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Why couldn't you make and upload the video first before making a post about it? *facepalm*
 
MadBullBunny
Why couldn't you make and upload the video first before making a post about it? *facepalm*
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Do you really want me to spend 15 minutes just to prove something?
Yes I will upload, not now though since its 3am. 👍
 
Energizerrr
Do you really want me to spend 15 minutes just to prove something?
Yes I will upload, not now though since its 3am. 👍
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That is the point about trying to prove something. You actually got to prove it... You can't just say you're right and others are wrong without visual and logical proof. People will think you're wacko. Not saying you are wrong its just typical forum common sense.
 
I know that powershifting is still possible, but didn't realize that it can be done up to 90% throttle.
I will try this tonight

Ouch, my clutch pedal didn't work right now... :facepalm
 
Can't upload the video now, getting some error. grrr....

Will try again tomorrow.
 
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That isn't powershifting at all. See how car acceleration stops for a split second every time you shift gear and how bland is sudden short "forward push" upon clutch drop.

Also, changing gear violently by releasing the clutch quickly in real life can cause the driving tires to chrip/skid on the 1>2 and 2>3 gear changes, even on 60 hp cars (especially if they've got heavy flywheels). This can't happen in GT5.

Chances are that the default "clutchless" gear changes are faster. The game gives you the illusion of powershifting, but it's only that.
 
That isn't powershifting? Well what is it I wonder...
My acceleration is better than if I was to shift normally or via paddles and I didn't lift off when shifting so what now?
 
I can see the speed stopped for a split second, but after that, it jumps before back to normal acceleration rate.
 
When powershifting in RL, acceleration never really stops, it's almost seamless as power gets transmitted to the wheels at all times except the very moment when the gear is engaged. This is the main reason why it's so hard on the transmission. Your gear changes have pauses of around 0.4-0.5 seconds on 1>2 and 2>3 shifts, which in RL would waste any potential benefit that the dragging effect caused by the clutch slipping and dropping (of which especially the latter in GT5 is severily limited, otherwise it would be possible to make tires slide when accelerating only just by suddenly dropping the clutch) would cause.

Have you measured acceleration times with the new "Speed Test" feature (if you have got the DLC), by the way?

You should try with a stock Caterham Fireblade, by the way. You'll see what I and others mean with incorrectly modeled transmission physics in GT5.
Please make a video in case you do.
 
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lol, I can't do this, I have to have my throttle completely off, trust me I've tested it. Logitech G25
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
That isn't powershifting at all. See how car acceleration stops for a split second every time you shift gear and how bland is sudden short "forward push" upon clutch drop.

Also, changing gear violently by releasing the clutch quickly in real life can cause the driving tires to chrip/skid on the 1>2 and 2>3 gear changes, even on 60 hp cars (especially if they've got heavy flywheels). This can't happen in GT5.

Chances are that the default "clutchless" gear changes are faster. The game gives you the illusion of powershifting, but it's only that.
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True, also in power shifting the revs never drop between gear changes, they only go up until the clutch is out.
 
eight6er
True, also in power shifting the revs never drop between gear changes, they only go up until the clutch is out.
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Hmm, not really. Rpm have to drop in a way or another as you engage higher gears. If they don't you're either frying your clutch or your tires.
 
This isn't real proper powershifting but at least it's something which gives you an increase in acceleration during gear changes.
90% open throttle during gear changes on GT5 isn't something many people would believe and wasn't something many thought of as possible, untill now that is.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
Hmm, not really. Rpm have to drop in a way or another as you engage higher gears. If they don't you're either frying your clutch or your tires.
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Yeah that's why people don't do it all the time in real life.

@OP yes you did better than what I thought was possible in GT5, but still not what I would call powershifting.
 
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eight6er
Yeah that's why people don't do it all the time in real life.
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If the clutch is slipping all the time, this means that engine power is wasted into clutch heat, leading to a decrease in acceleration (and eventually, clutch integrity). Making engine rpm not decrease all the time is not the correct powershifting technique.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
If the clutch is slipping all the time, this means that engine power is wasted into clutch heat, leading to a decrease in acceleration (and eventually, clutch integrity). Making engine rpm not decrease all the time is not the correct powershifting technique.
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I don't see why the clutch would be slipping all the time. When you leave the clutch out the revs drop to what they should be, it would only be slipping if you had a bad clutch.
 
eight6er
I don't see why the clutch would be slipping all the time. When you leave the clutch out the revs drop to what they should be, it would only be slipping if you had a bad clutch.
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You've written that during powershifts engine rpm never drop, only increase.
That can't be possible with a clutch in good conditions and a correct shifting technique, unless you're purposely making the clutch slip all the time.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
You've written that during powershifts engine rpm never drop, only increase.
That can't be possible with a clutch in good conditions and a correct shifting technique, unless you're purposely making the clutch slip all the time.
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Of course it's possible, I said revs would only increase until the clutch is out, meaning the clutch would not be slipping.
 
Can you two please bring your discussion to your PM inboxes please?
To eight6er - revs have to drop while powershifting, if they don't drop it means your clutch is on it's way.
 
I have a g27 an after the 2.03 update it is alot easier/faster to shift with the clutch. Still cant flat shift but its better.
 
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