Ps 3 : ~ 500 $ !!!

[Max_DC]

According to japanese Mainichi Daily News the PS3 will cost 50000 Yen in Japan; this is about 470 US$...
adding further taxes will lead to a price of maybe a little over 500 US $....

Gamespot news

Do you think that price is fair ?

 

[Robin]

I payed £400 for my Japanese PS2 and £80 more to chip it! Thats a very expensive purchase but I would be willing to pay it again......or even more for the PS3!

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

It is probably too early to speculate about the prices but there is no way I will pay $500 for a PS3.

 

[G.T]

I payed £400 for my Japanese PS2 and £80 more to chip it! Thats a very expensive purchase but I would be willing to pay it again......or even more for the PS3!

Sorry but I'm so surprised at how much you payed for a PS2. But then it was cutting edge technology.

I don't mind the price being that high. My Dad's getting it for me anyway.

 

[LoudMusic]

I would not be surprised if both the XBox360 and PS3 launch at $500. Quite honestly I would pay as much as $1000 for a great console, so long as it's great.

What really irritates the piss out of me, though, is that games cost $50. It's a freaking racket! They should not cost more than $30 and "greatest hits" games should go down to $10.

 

[Robin]

Sorry but I'm so surprised at how much you payed for a PS2. But then it was cutting edge technology.

It was the launch day SCPH 10000 bought in Japan first of 1 thousand units released.........in a way its a collectors item........thats why it costed so much!

 

[tha_con]

That's really all speculation, because sony hasn't said anything about price, and between now and spring things could change. IT all depends on how much it's going to cost them to actually make the hardware. And what software they will launch with. If sony launches with some awesome software, i.e. Tekken, or any other big name title, including mainstream sports games, then they will have a sure shot way to lower the price. Because they do in fact make money off software, not hardware.


LoudMusic: Games cost 50 dollars to absorb the price of manufacturing costs of hardware, advertising, and development costs. charging 30 dollars would really hurt the industry.

As for my take on the price, I see it possible for sony to charge 349.99 to 449.99 US.

Also, I would count on Sony having limited quantities, so those looking to get one, I would pre order now, or be prepared to wait in line.

I myself will have a few friends in line buying PS3's for me, depending on the demand, and I will resell them....*slightly* marked up

 

[LaBounti]

$500 would be worth every penny but I also heard there will be two kinda of Xbox360s a normal one and a media enhaced verion with Xbox compatibility.


IMO if its $500 you are paying for the future. Start saving now and it wont be a problem. I plan on buiyng an HDTV later this year and PS3 is the best reason ever to get an HDTV mostly becuase of Blu-Ray HD movies. DVD sales blew up after PS2's release and Sony is banking on a reapeat with Blu-ray. 1080p standard is nutz, no one is going to have a TV capable of this expect rich(or crazy) people.

PSP cost $250 can two psp's render a max resolution of 3840x2160? Plus that would be $200 more than the PS1's launch price. If you dont want to pay that then you can help support the X360.

 

[LoudMusic]

LoudMusic: Games cost 50 dollars to absorb the price of manufacturing costs of hardware, advertising, and development costs. charging 30 dollars would really hurt the industry.

That's why I said make the console more expensive. There is no reason, other than people will pay it, that games should cost that much.

 

[tha_con]

That's why I said make the console more expensive. There is no reason, other than people will pay it, that games should cost that much.

There's plenty of reasons. Here they are.

Employee Salary (which can be broken into the following)
o Art Team
o Production Team
o Voice Actors
o Research Team

Advertisement Costs

Development Costs

Manufacturing Costs

Shipping Costs

License Fees (occasionally)


The list goes on and on. That $50 goes a long way to pay a lot of people and a lot of costs. That's just the truth of the industry.

If you want to argue that DVD's cost less, that's because you are only paying for the manufacuring cost and advertisement costs (if you advertise it). Movies make their money in theaters. Then make tons of profit on DVD. Just the way things work.

 

[donbenni]

If it costs $500 which btw is ~£270 i'd be more than happy. Obviously the cheaper it is, the better for me, but TBH i'd be happy spending more to get it. I think it's worth every penny, but it's probably a little early to be speculating.

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

500 US? Goooooooooooooooood looooooooooooooord thats alotta money. *Sends his sister back out to the corner to start makin some more money*

 

[Flerbizky]

heh... Sony can charge US$ 800 for the first 10000 items and sell each and every one the first day - hell - They can charge 1000 and they'll still be pre-ordered....

(I should say - I wouldn't pay that amount of money, but there's people who will)

 

[Omnis]

considering the RSX is more powerful than two 6800 ultra's, i think the price is reasonable. those cards go for $1000 a pop. gimme a break. the ps3 is far ascended to what the most high-end PCs can put out, for a fraction of the price.

i'll tell you that i'd much rather pay five-hundred dollars on a ps3, than five-THOUSAND dollars on an alienware or etc.

 

[Max_DC]

considering the RSX is more powerful than two 6800 ultra's, i think the price is reasonable. those cards go for $1000 a pop. gimme a break. the ps3 is far ascended to what the most high-end PCs can put out, for a fraction of the price.

i'll tell you that i'd much rather pay five-hundred dollars on a ps3, than five-THOUSAND dollars on an alienware or etc.

Well while facts are not final yet, until they release the PS3, these 6800's will be outdated and cheap... and maybe even 2 sequelcars still availibe... but hey, who knows? perhaps Sony can cut down productio costs for the cell and add another one, as they wanted to do at first.... nobody knows...

 

[LoudMusic]

considering the RSX is more powerful than two 6800 ultra's, i think the price is reasonable. those cards go for $1000 a pop. gimme a break. the ps3 is far ascended to what the most high-end PCs can put out, for a fraction of the price.

i'll tell you that i'd much rather pay five-hundred dollars on a ps3, than five-THOUSAND dollars on an alienware or etc.

Precisely.

There's plenty of reasons. Here they are.

...

The list goes on and on. That $50 goes a long way to pay a lot of people and a lot of costs. That's just the truth of the industry.

Or, maybe it's because people will pay $50 for a video game.

Some games are worth it, undeniably. Halo, Gran Turismo, etc ... but the majority of games are price marked at $50 because that's the industry, when the games aren't worth half that.

 

[y2kgamer]

I seriously doubt any next-gen console will cost $500.

Anything higher than $300 will drive away the average consumer. Any company who launches a console at $500 will lose the race at the start.

 

[livemusic]

I payed something around that 2 and a half years ago when I bougth the PS2. It doesn´t cost as much now, but since we have to import them it´s still very expensive.

 

[tha_con]

Or, maybe it's because people will pay $50 for a video game.

Some games are worth it, undeniably. Halo, Gran Turismo, etc ... but the majority of games are price marked at $50 because that's the industry, when the games aren't worth half that.

That's hardly the reason, though there are games out there that are not worth the 50 dollars, the majority of them are.

Regardless of the quality of the game, the people still need to be paid, if you're not willing to pay their salary, then don't buy the game. But games need to be made, and for a game to be made, people need money to make them. If that is too much for you, stop playing games, it's as simple as that.

Be happy that they've dropped from the 69.99 price tag that cartridges used to carry. If you don't understand economics and the way the world works, dont complain, but you don't get paid for the same thing, it's part of your being a bickering consumer. Until you have to rely on those prices to pay for your job and feed your family, you won't know.

It's not a matter of "worth" it's a matter of expenses. Without recoupment for production, companies fail because they make no profit, with no profit, you cannot run a business at expense. Those are the facts.

 

[Omnis]

Well while facts are not final yet, until they release the PS3, these 6800's will be outdated and cheap... and maybe even 2 sequelcars still availibe... but hey, who knows? perhaps Sony can cut down productio costs for the cell and add another one, as they wanted to do at first.... nobody knows...

nevertheless, if the PC technology catches up with the RSX by the time ps3 releases, that rig will still be upwards of 5 grand.

that still makes ps3 a STEAL.

 

[Robin]

Both companies will probably try to introduce lower launch prices and opperate at a loss on each unit sold for like the first month........then hike the price up but by then people will have a console for which they will have to be brand specific software from which, for example sony could make the loss back......

Basically get people to buy their console.....then once they own it they will have to buy games and everything else for that system.....

 

[tha_con]

Prices never go up, they go down.

No one ever makes money on a console, they lose. Only when the tech becomes obsolete or easy to produce to they "make money" even then, they've lowered the price and are still losing money on it.

It's always in the software to make money, and in the accessories. Sony makes money on memory cards, controllers, games, and the network adapter etc. Only when they introduced the slim PS2 did they begin to "profit" off of the console unit itself.

 

[LoudMusic]

That's hardly the reason, though there are games out there that are not worth the 50 dollars, the majority of them are.

Regardless of the quality of the game, the people still need to be paid, if you're not willing to pay their salary, then don't buy the game. But games need to be made, and for a game to be made, people need money to make them. If that is too much for you, stop playing games, it's as simple as that.

Be happy that they've dropped from the 69.99 price tag that cartridges used to carry. If you don't understand economics and the way the world works, dont complain, but you don't get paid for the same thing, it's part of your being a bickering consumer. Until you have to rely on those prices to pay for your job and feed your family, you won't know.

It's not a matter of "worth" it's a matter of expenses. Without recoupment for production, companies fail because they make no profit, with no profit, you cannot run a business at expense. Those are the facts.

Yup, we're never going to change eachother's minds. But I'll continue my argument.

GT3 sold over 3.66 Million copies in the US into 2004. That's $183,000,000 USD from one country. Standard pricing in most retail is to double the cost of the product, so that would claim that it cost well over $91.5M to produce the game. These numbers don't include the rest of North America, Europe, or any of the Asian sales.

Surely it does not cost that much to make even that complex of a video game. I would venture $30M, tops.

"The average video game costs between $8 million and $12 million to produce ..." source

$30 for a video game would keep all the quality producers in business and weed out the ****ty ones. There would be a LOT more people playing games too.

 

[Ev0]

$500 USD sounds like too much for me, considering I am going to be on a University budget when the PS3 comes out. Most likely, I'll wait for prices to drop in a couple of months before buying a next gen console, unless there is a launch title that really grabs my attention (such as GTA).

 

[tha_con]

Overhead. A business has to run with all of this, especially high profile video game business's.

Health Plans, Dental Plans, 401K's, Building Costs, Life Insurance Plans, you have to pay people to keep the building clean, taxes, utility costs.

The production cost of the video game alone is not what's needed to be recouped.

I'm telling you this out of truth, regardless of what numbers you put together, there are a lot of bills to be paid from that TINY $50 you pay. It's not just $50 because they want to charge $50. There are two reasons.

To maintain what they have, and to plan for growth. The extra money is used to build better facilities, hire more employee's, give games bigger budgets, etc etc.

Otherwise growth of the industry slows. That's all there is to it.

 

[ExigeEvan]

nevertheless, if the PC technology catches up with the RSX by the time ps3 releases, that rig will still be upwards of 5 grand.

that still makes ps3 a STEAL.

But the RAM is hardly PC killing

I'd happily pay £200 (more like 50/50 with my dad) It'll probably take 6months to a year for it to each that but I can wait

 

[LoudMusic]

Overhead. A business has to run with all of this, especially high profile video game business's.

Health Plans, Dental Plans, 401K's, Building Costs, Life Insurance Plans, you have to pay people to keep the building clean, taxes, utility costs.

The production cost of the video game alone is not what's needed to be recouped.

I'm telling you this out of truth, regardless of what numbers you put together, there are a lot of bills to be paid from that TINY $50 you pay. It's not just $50 because they want to charge $50. There are two reasons.

To maintain what they have, and to plan for growth. The extra money is used to build better facilities, hire more employee's, give games bigger budgets, etc etc.

Otherwise growth of the industry slows. That's all there is to it.

And I'm telling you they charge $50 a copy because people will pay it. Supply and DEMAND drives costs more than expenses.

 

[Max_DC]

And I'm telling you they charge $50 a copy because people will pay it. Supply and DEMAND drives costs more than expenses.

Just flew over your discussion...

50 $ :

- developement costs > a team of 50 or so people work on that for maybe 1-2 years
they have high tech equippment and a lot to do ( research in other countries : taking pictures etc, motion capturing, licence costs for dev. kits, and good programmers want good money for their work
- the publisher : he provides the infrastructure, and he gets paid well for that
- advertising in magazines, TV etc
- the dvd producer
- Sony, for every game they get licence charges and they need them to pay for : balancing out the hardware losses, building up new facilities, developping new consoles, chips etc
- the big electronic dealers
- then the small dealers
- Japan : taxes > from every one above
- US : more taxes > from everyone above
- the shareholders also want their part at the stock market

They all want to live from these games and they want to make PROFIT...
Also add the software pirates, the better the game is, the higher the percentage of illegal copies is....

 

[LoudMusic]

Alright, go ahead, pay $50 for your games. I've payed that much for only three games, ever. Halo, Halo 2, and Gran Turismo 4. Outside of those three I've never payed more than $30 for a game, on any platform including computer.

They're not worth it, people.

 

[tha_con]

^^ That's fine, don't buy them.

But don't think that if you were ever the driving force behind a Production Company that you would last longer than a year or two. You'd go out of business.