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Ive been an avid drifter on GT3 A-spec for awhile now and ive veiwed many members replay videos and my question is how can they keep the drift going non stop? I use the regular mad catz 2 controller but i think that the people in the videos have a steering wheel. Well this is my first post and i hope it doesnt raise any hairs with anyone. PS Countersteer For Life
 
Ive been an avid drifter on GT3 A-spec for awhile now and ive veiwed many members replay videos and my question is how can they keep the drift going non stop going around the corners with minimal countersteer? I use the regular mad catz 2 controller but i think that the people in the videos have a steering wheel. I usually drift with the 240SX/180SX Fastback on Sims. I personaly think all drifting should be done on Sim Tires. Aight thats it.

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Why can't more newbs be like you? We need more thoughtful newbies. Sorry if I seemed a bit grumpy there, everyone's new at some point right?
 
I try to be mature because i think you need to give respect to earn respect. And its true you cant go if you dont start. But your only a newbie once live it up.
 
Anyone know the answer to this question? I'm a noob too, and I can drift, but not for the real long turns...

Did a search, but no one actually answers the question. They all say keep practicing.........duh.

Any techniques besides practice?

J
 
Most people said practise because that what you need to do.

It depends on the car and power and tires, give more information and we eill be able to help you out a bit better.

Welcome to GTPlanet!
 
power overing, or heavy feinting to get the car in enough oversteer to keep going but not too much to countersteer less
 
Well...here's my two cents worth:

Use some sim tires. They're the slickest of the tires, so they'll be able to keep sliding relatively easily.

Try not to countersteer too much. When I straighten out of a turn too early, I can usually tell it was because I countersteered too much too early. So, try just using the gas/brake to avoid spinning out while using as little countersteer as possible.

You also need to enter the turn with plenty of speed. The turn's long, and you're losing momentum the whole time that you're drifting. So, you need to start out with plenty at the beginning.

Lastly, a new drift car may be in order. Different cars cater to different styles. Some people like the light little cars, others like the big heavy ones. Try out both and see how they feel in short and long corners.

If all else fails, you may want to try out a little more hp. This can help you get through the turn a bit easier, but it can make the car really uncontrollable. When on sims, I'd say to never go too far above 400 hp.

Finally.....practice more ;). Track selection may be an influence here, and I'd suggest Midfield for big turns, cause it's short and has 3 big turns.

Ooh, ooh.....almost forgot.....settings! (fun, eh?) Lift the rear end a bit higher than the front. Tighten up the rear springs and stabilizer, flatten out the rear camber, and do the opposite to the front end. Most people say to dial in more LSD, but I still can't see how that stuff works....:banghead:

btw.....have fun :)
 
Everyone has their own style of entering a drift. I've seen brake drift, e-brake drift, feint drift, dirt drop, late-braking. I like using the good old brake drift. Im starting to use e-brake mor often though.

I too am also KIND OF stupified on how people can drift their AWD cars without any counter-steer. I think doin this needs lots of HP and some Normal Tires? Flooring the gas, or gasing when needed to keep the car sideways, but not alot, just enough to keep it in the feint motion. I've tried with, but it seems AWD is not for. I'd just leave it to... Thio, silviadrifter, Sheron, Catch-my-Drift....
 
Well the WHOLE point to keeping a long drift is to not countersteer out of it before hand, once you reach that certain point where you're turning with the accelerator and not the wheels, it's alot easier to get those longer corners.
 
Originally posted by bustwave.
Everyone has their own style of entering a drift. I've seen brake drift, e-brake drift, feint drift, dirt drop, late-braking. I like using the good old brake drift. Im starting to use e-brake mor often though.

I too am also KIND OF stupified on how people can drift their AWD cars without any counter-steer. I think doin this needs lots of HP and some Normal Tires? Flooring the gas, or gasing when needed to keep the car sideways, but not alot, just enough to keep it in the feint motion. I've tried with, but it seems AWD is not for. I'd just leave it to... Thio, silviadrifter, Sheron, Catch-my-Drift....

All my AWD cars are between 300hp to 500hp and all riding on sims..... I usually use braking, or feint entry. Then you control the angle of the drift with the Throttle, Brakes, and/or e-brake..... The foot brake will adjust the angle while slowing you down, so this is best for situations where you are going to fast..... The e-brake will adjust the angle while keeping most, if not all, of your speed, so this is best for situations when you don't want to lose any speed. Then of course, the throttle keeps the drift in motion. Just remember not to let the revs drop to low, or you will regain traction.....

No countersteer FR drifting is only for speed drifting, because you cannot achieve big angles (and bring the car out of it), without using countersteer (in a FR, or MR).......


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On a completely differnet note, dump the Mad Catz controller. I used to use them almost exclusively. The Micron Con and full sized.

Due to many hand injuries (gotta love BMX racing) I have very little ability to grip a controller. I've tried a wheel, but not having a permanent spot to set it up hampered that.

As I was reviewing replays, I started to notice my steering was very choppy and erratic. Often going right to full left or right lock. I couldn't recall having done that while i was running the lap.

So... I took a Lotus Elise out to Trial Mtn, and began testing it. Even at a slight turn one way or the other, the steering went full lock. More testing, and other cars/tracks, I came to realize that the Madcatz was a bit shoddy in their potentiometers. (the little thingy that tracks how much you move the stick).

I also started paying attention to the accelerator and brake. I ran a few laps, and barely use the throttle/brake. Making sure to not go over 1/2 of the distance from lock to center. Sure enough, in the replay, it was showing full lock.

I picked up my old Sony DS2, and spent an hour testing that one. Much better control and considerably more precise.

SO what you may be seeing is someone is using a much better control, and has much more precise control. I'm in no way qualified to answer a drifting question, but I've got a certain amount of experience with a DS2.

Good luck,

AO
 
yeah stick with the sony...i tryed one of thems and it did not fill right to me.... and to get better at drifting is to practice... cuz thats about all u can do ....u cant just teach some on how to drift its something u have to learn...u know what i mean.... well any way
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Thanx for the practicle advise. WE all know practice is best. But if were practicing the wrong things....then you get really good at doing it wrong:banghead:
 
watch videos of both drifting here in gran turismo and of people drifting in real life. I think on of the best things I have done is to watch the real life drift bible.
most importantly, have fun
 
Third party controllers suck anyway. They're usually made of cheaper materials, are porrly constructed, and don't work as fluently. IF you were to get one stick with Logitech. Other than that it's Sony all the way.
 
in the long run i think its best to play with sonys and spend a bit more money.....

yeah watchin videos of drifters on gtplanet and RL realy helped me to... showes u how they shift there weight when its best to counter steer.. and all the good stuff thats another way to learn too
 
Thanks for everones post practice makes perfect and ive found when you keep a steady throttle your drifts become more comtrolable. Ill stick to my PS2 Controllor for drifting. 240SX Type-X Rules to Drift
 
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