Questions about Rally racing and Drifting

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burnout060

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Ok, I did a search of the forum and could not find any input on this topic, so I'm making a new thread. If I'm an idiot and missed something entirely, then go ahead and delete this post :indiff:

I was wondering a few things about Dirt and Snow events. For those of you who have gotten good at drifting in GT4, how much Rally racing have you done so far? Did the Rally races help your road-drifting techniques? Also, when should one start Rally racing in the game? (I'm currently at 22.2%) And finally, what's a good first car for Rally racing? I'd *like* to use an Evo III, but I'm an ID fan, so maybe there's something better to start off with?

Sorry to ask so many questions all at once, I just haven't even touched the Dirt and Snow events yet, haven't even tried it OUT. So I'm just trying to figure out as much about it as possible, and like I said, I couldn't find much in the drifting forum.
 
snow is .. the sooner you start the better cause its so HARD... i started right when i got the game, i got an STi, modded it up, and went from there..

now when you get to the hard rally stages, i suggest either a fast WRC car, and for the mountain (swiss alps mostly) i suggest the toyota RSC Rally car which you win.. thats a cool car lol .. its a beast

but. umm no i dont think rallying will help with drifting.. not much atleast, i guess it could be a good starting point for countersteering? but it wont help much when on tarmac because grip is totally different situation on tarmac compared to dirt
 
Rally racing rocks. I cant believe you havnt done any snow or dirt at 22%. Its tough to learn though but i did so much rallying in gt3 that it only took me a couple runs on the snow and dirt courses to get it down well. Rally racing, if your using a DFP in 900* mode can help you get better accustomed to not being afraid to whip the wheel around so much as well as get the range of steering movement drilled into your head. It helps in that sense.
WHATEVER YOU DO, do not go and use the toyota rally raid car (on dirt or snow) without first going into its variable center differential adjustment bar and put it to 50/50 or so. Youll drive yourself crazy as its near impossible to keep it on the road with almost all of the power going to the rear wheels. The preceding might also be true for some other 4 wheel drivers you get too. Id check to make sure the vcd is close to 50 50 before you take one out on snow or dirt to be sure.
 
burnout060
Ok, I did a search of the forum and could not find any input on this topic, so I'm making a new thread. If I'm an idiot and missed something entirely, then go ahead and delete this post :indiff:

I was wondering a few things about Dirt and Snow events. For those of you who have gotten good at drifting in GT4, how much Rally racing have you done so far? Did the Rally races help your road-drifting techniques? Also, when should one start Rally racing in the game? (I'm currently at 22.2%) And finally, what's a good first car for Rally racing? I'd *like* to use an Evo III, but I'm an ID fan, so maybe there's something better to start off with?

Sorry to ask so many questions all at once, I just haven't even touched the Dirt and Snow events yet, haven't even tried it OUT. So I'm just trying to figure out as much about it as possible, and like I said, I couldn't find much in the drifting forum.
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In GT4, I only did the Easy Grand Canyon rally and it has taught me how to modulate the throttle in corners. Yes, this did help me when I took out the Mazda Falken RX-7 out to drift. When I was drifting the corner, my senses kicked in when there was little throttle or too much, but I had to readjust my senses since the GT4 physics engine is completely different from the GT3 physics engine, IMO. I took out the Subaru WRC 2001 car out onto Grand Canyon and this is what I learned.

Well, I did learn how to feint in the rally races, but that didn't apply to the RX-7 since the RX-7 is an FR and the Subaru was a 4WD, but the principle was similar.

I have not driven the Evo III yet, but if its handling characteristics are much like the later version Evos, then it sounds like a good car to start out with.

Good luck on your quest! :)
 
i guess rallying is good practice for calculating clipping points, otherwise i agree that drifting on tarmac and dirt or snow is completely different. i know drifting on tarmac helped me with rallying, but that's just me.
 
burnout060
Ok, I did a search of the forum and could not find any input on this topic, so I'm making a new thread. If I'm an idiot and missed something entirely, then go ahead and delete this post :indiff:
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Sorry to ask so many questions all at once, I just haven't even touched the Dirt and Snow events yet, haven't even tried it OUT. So I'm just trying to figure out as much about it as possible, and like I said, I couldn't find much in the drifting forum.
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so I tried "search" and got only that thread. it is similar to me, I love dirt and snow drifting with AWD rally cars. It is totaly different from tarmac drifting, I agree, and car control is very hard at jumps and turns. I got some good cornering angles and crazy 180 degree power slides using techniques I saw from WRC videos - with throttle-brake(fast t-b-t-b-t-b-t pumping) and e-brake. But I think oversteer is out in WRC racing(with AWD I cannot use it at all!)

anyone addicted to WRC on dirt and snow? some hints? WRC fans here?
 
your evo III should be a good beginner car for rally. i used my evo VII for alot of them when i didnt have alot of money.
 

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