Rally game with wheel and paddles (no shifter, no handbrake)

Discussion in 'DiRT Series' started by vinz7531, Jan 21, 2019.

  1. vinz7531

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    Hello,

    I'm considering getting WRC7 or Dirt4 on Xbox with my wheel (TMX PRO), but I have no shifter or handbrake. They are pretty costly in thrustmaster brand.
    Is it playable or will it be a problem?
    lot of wheel movement can make the paddles hard to reach
    handbrake on a button might be unpractical

    What do you think? Are some of you doing it?

    Thanks
     
  2. Racetee

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    The rally consultant for Dirt Rally 2.0 uses paddles in the videos, so I guess it's manageable.
     
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  3. vinz7531

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    Thank you for the info. Any thoughts about the lack of handbrake?
     
  4. Racetee

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    Well, get used to hitting a button precisely and really fast :D
     
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  5. vinz7531

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    I heard someone mapped the handbrake on its clutch pedal... anyone tested that?

    I'm going to do some drift in FM7 with the wheel to know how it feels...
     
  6. Scaff

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    I use paddles all the time in rally titles (and I quite literally have the lot of them), for handbrake mapping a button is usable, however I find that mapping the handbrake to fourth gear on my shifter is a better option (and in Thrustmaster terms the TS8A is a lot cheaper than the handbrake).

    Oh and I would recommend the original Dirt Rally over Dirt 4 personally.
     
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  7. vinz7531

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    Thanks for the info.
    I don't have a shifter yet :) so I'll try a button
    Regarding the title choice, I was more inclined to WRC7 due to better stages.
     
  8. doblocruiser

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    I use a standard T150 and have applied the handbrake to the R2-button. Works fine but in WRC7 the handbrake has an issue on tarmac stages. It doesn't work or not well enough. Gravel ain't a problem.
     
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  9. vinz7531

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    Good to know thanks ;)
     
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  10. klondike

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    Dont have much to add regarding handbrake.

    But really you should also consider getting Sebastien Loeb rally. Its a gem of a game. Not the best graphics but good physics and very fun enjoyable carreer mode.
     
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  11. davidt33

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    I have Dirt 4. I only race with Wheel and paddles for shifting gears, pedals for accelerator and brake.
    Dirt 4 is an amazing rally sim, thoroughly enjoy it. Shifting gears is no problem with the paddles but yes having a button on the wheel for handbrake can be and is a problem for me re your concerns while steering. I have mine mapped to "O" but don't use it because it's hardly practical. I was considering getting a handbrake myself but can't afford it right now either so that's that. But yeah, it's a great game.
     
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  12. Racetee

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    Why don't you at least map it to a static button (L3 or R3)? I can't imagine holding the button while rotating the wheel in a corner.
     
  13. davidt33

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    The L3 and R3 buttons are also on the wheel though so it's the same situation as the "O" button.
     
  14. Racetee

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    Oh, I automatically thought that you also have a Thrustmaster base.
     
  15. davidt33

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    I have a Fanatec CSL Elite PS4. About 2 months now. Haven't regretted it. Their stuff is really premium quality IMO.
    Prior to that I had a Logitech G29 (2 actually). When the second one died I decided to finally get what I had wished for for the longest while. That was the Fanatec.
     
  16. GTMajarcus

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    I have the handbrake in Dirt Rally mapped to the clutch pedal on my G29. Works fine.
    The clutch on the G29 has a lot of travel so I recommend you adjust the settings in the game so that you don’t have push the clutch pedal all the way down to engage the handbrake.
    It’s not as realistic as using a real handbrake accessory, but I find it easier than finding a button on the steering wheel while I’m turning.
     
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  17. davidt33

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    I never knew you could have mapped the clutch pedal as the handbrake. Good to know. Wish I had known back when I had my G29 because I never used the clutch pedal, it was just there on the side with using just the accelerator and brake pedals and paddles for gear changing.
     
  18. GTMajarcus

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    Pretty much the same for me. It’s the only thing I use the clutch pedal for. Can you use the clutch pedal on the Fanatec for a handbrake? Assuming you have the load cell kit.
     
  19. davidt33

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    I just have the basic 2-pedals (accelerator and brake) that came with the CSL Elite. I might get the load-cell kit later.
    I'm assuming though since mentioned that a clutch pedal could be mapped for handbrake maybe the same could be done with the Fanatec pedal. If and when I do get the load-cell kit I'll try it with the then former brake pedal though.
     
  20. GTMajarcus

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    I’m very tempted to get the Fanatec CSL Elite wheel/pedal set. Possibly next year. If their ClubSport Handbrake 1.5 works with it on Dirt Rally, then that would something I’d be tempted to get down the road as well.
     
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  21. davidt33

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    I don't think you'll regret it. I'm very pleased with mine. Fanatec has done a great job with their products IMO. They not only look premium, but the make up also is and to my mind the performance. They may be a bit pricier than some other wheel and pedal sets but well worth the investment and reliability/durability. And you know the old chinese saying "Good ting no cheap, cheap ting no good".
     
  22. GTMajarcus

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    Good to know re the quality. There’s a Sim shop nearby, so I plan to try the wheel out on one of their rigs one of these days
     
  23. vinz7531

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    Hi, thanks for the answer. I'll also test the handbrake on the clutch...

    @davidt33: thanks for your reply :)
     
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