Rally Series proposal

[ABud]

After a quick trawl of the forum ive not found any evidence of a rally series, so! Would people be interested in joining an 8 race series. Ive had a think about how it could be ran so heres my ideas. Please post any thoughts you have or tell me if this is already being done!

The series would consist of 8 rally's, each with 3 stages:

Stages 1 + 2 (3 laps):

Normal Difficulty race from the Special Conditions races in GT mode. Only stock cars (un-modded) are allowed, but the cars can be setup how you like e.g. Suspension settings, gear ratios, downforce etc. No TCS or ASM is possible for these races and you have to use the correct tyres (snow/dirt etc.)

Stage 3 (10 laps):

Longer race using Arcade Mode race settings. No adjustments to HP or Weight but can use any tyres and set top speed as required. No ASM allowed but TCS is optional. Tyre wear to Strong(?) and rev limiter set for collisions. Havent thought how the AI should be set.

Points:

The positions will be decided by TOTAL rally time (ie. stage 1 + stage 2 + stage 3) and points allocated as follows:

10, 6, 4, 3, 2,1 unless there are more than 9 entrants then maybe go 10, 8, 6, 5 ,4, 3, 2, 1.

3 bonus points for winning a stage, 2 for second and 1 for third.

Time Scale:

It would be good to know what everyones stage 1 times are before moving on to stage 2 etc., so how about 4 days to submit S1 times, then 4 more days for S2 times, then 6 days for S3 times. Ie.

Monday 1st May; rally announced
Thursday 4th; Stage 1 deadline
Monday 8th; Stage 2 deadline
Sunday 14th; Stage 3 deadline

As this may mean people will miss some stages but can do rest of the rally, non submital of stage times wont involve disqualification from that rally, but you would take the slowest submitted time +5% as your time. eg.

Say slowest time was 6'06.000, your time for that stage would be 6'24.300

The list of possible cars is pretty long but heres a taster of what sort of wheels would be available:

Peugot 206 Rally Car '99
Subaru Impreza Rally Car '99
Ford Escort Rally Car '98
Ford Focus Rally Car '99
Hyundai Accent Rally Car '01
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI '99

and plenty more too! (there may well be 14 different cars possible)

As an idea of what tracks would make up a rally, here's one ive planned:

Stage 1: Swiss Alps (3 laps)
Stage 2: Grand Canyon Reverse (3 laps)
Stage 3: El Capitan Reverse

So, any thoughts?

Andy

 

[superberkut]

You said un-modded cars and listed rally vehicles?

In the past, perhaps the difference in the way traditional rally races may have discouraged some people from organizing this event before. I would presonally like to see this series get off the ground, but my eligibility is as of now unknown.

 

[ABud]

Sorry, i meant un-modded as in not adding turbos or weight reduction etc. Wanted to make it clear that changing the cars setup before rounds is ok but not actually changing weight, hp etc.

 

[ICallShotgun]

Run the whole thing in Arcade mode or in GT Mode, don't switch between the two, it'll confuse the drivers.

Also, a suggestion. All the Rally tracks can be done forward and reverse (if i'm wrong, please correct me), so why not have an even-number of stages? IE.
Stage 1 - 3 laps fwd

Another, I like the non-submittal strategy as it's very creative, but difficult to implement. Why not give 30s over the last-place car as their time for that stage.

Running stages 4 days apart is really difficult. give people a week to complete maybe 2 stages, IE Stage 1 (3Laps) and Stage 2 (3Laps) and another for the other stage or two. This gives people who work/school a chance for weekend racing.

Just some ideas.
Stage 2 - 3 laps rev
Stage 3 - 5 laps fwd
Stage 4 - 5 laps rev

Still total-time wins. This way you can keep each round at the same track as well, opening you up to multiple track options without repeating.

 

[ABud]

Thanks for the thoughts ICallShotgun

Your right about sticking to one mode, so its prob easiest if all the races are done in Arcade Mode.

The idea of mixing up the tracks was to stop things getting repetitve - if we had 4 rounds of 1 track forwards and reverse its basically 2 races twice. Ive planned out 8 rounds using these combinations:

Citta di Aria/Costa di Amalfi Reverse/Opera Paris Reverse
Swiss Alps/Grand Canyon Reverse/El Cap Reverse
Chamonix/Ice Arena Reverse/Opera Paris
Grand Canyon/Swiss Alps Reverse/Special Stage R5 Reverse
Yosemite 1/ Tahiti Reverse/El Cap
Ice Arena/Chamonix Reverse/George V
Tahiti/Yosemite 1/Special Stage R5
Costa di Amalfi/Citta di Aria Reverse/ George V Reverse

The idea is keeping like surfaces together and then having a 'special' stage on a road surface.

+30s for a non-submital is a lot more straight forward than +5% (and easier for me), thanks!

As for the time scale, im really not sure about this one! My concerns with 1 week per stage is that there's really not very much racing on each stage and the pace of the championship would be very slow. As for 4 rounds with 2 a week, the prob there is we cant have a running leader board for each stage but maybe the pros for this out weigh the cons?

All academic at the mo tho cos it doesn't look like there'll be enough interest to get this going. Still, wait and see!

Again, thanks for your thoughts, anymore would be welcome:tup:

Andy