Raves

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What do you think of raves?

  • They rule! And the music is top notch.

    Votes: 7 20.0%
  • Theyre pretty cool, a bit on the stupid side, though.

    Votes: 8 22.9%
  • Eh, blah. Whatever.

    Votes: 6 17.1%
  • Raves are crap. I dont like them.

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • Raves suck, totally. I hate the music, and all the drug influence.

    Votes: 12 34.3%

  • Total voters
    35
Originally posted by jubula
I would absolutely LOVE to go to a Rave.there are 2 clubs in my area.they are called "Club Liquid" and "Club H2O"

they are incredible!my brother went to H2o and after he came back he took me for a ride in his car and told me all about it and how much fun he had.but the sad thing is,there ARE a hell of alot of drugs.he said that he saw 55 gallon drums FULL OF EXSTACY!

and uh....how many had he had when he saw a 55 gallon drum full of extacy?

thats a pile of crap, do you know how much thats worth? more than youll make in 4 billion years!
 
Holy **** a 55 gallon drum. That is worth a lot. I mean each tab I found runs between 20-30 bucks at the raves and clubs I go to. Hmmm lets see how many can fit in a 55 gal drum? A million? Lets call it a million. So will say 25 x 1,000,000 = 25 million and thats just un calulating it. My god thats a **** load of X.
 
Raves are cool, if there aren't any drugs or stuff there (also if they have the water on)...
 
i swear!thats what he told me!
but X isnt worth THAT much down here.
 
its worth like I said between 20-30 sometimes up to 40 at some clubs
 
Hmm, a 55 gallon drum of ecstacy, eh? That seems highly illogical.

And how does one smuggle in this many drugs?
 
Originally posted by gt2_gs
I almost got to go to a rave friday night...

What do you all think of raves, whether you have been to one or havent.

I dont feel i should vote.. After all, i made the poll...
Ive never been to one, but when I do.........
 
I've attended or spun records at over 40 raves. They are what they are. If you drop X, they're an awesome experience. You can go and forget all the mundane responsibities of your daily life. You can meet MANY new friends. If you don't drop X, or anything else, and go sober.....then the experience can be sort of boring and you won't "Get" how or what you're seeing.
 
Originally posted by pupik
They used to be rather underground, but now I hear fights and crap break out in them



This is because it's because it's getting harder and harder to get permits for raves...So, they need to book rap and Hip-Hop acts. This brings in people who would NEVER otherwise show up at a rave. The Rap and Hip Hop acts bring in a lot of guys who arn't used to the "happy-go-lucky-carefree-enjoy-the-time" atmosphere that you find at raves. The fights usaully arn't between the "ravers", but rather between the gansters who go to see the hip hop acts, and the kids who go to see the Hardcore acts.

Somewhere along the way, the kids who liked Hardcore (not Happy-Hardcore) thought it was time to turn the Hardcore room into a Mosh-Pit where they can fight and act like immature little punks when they're high on Whip-Its's, X and Coke.
 
I cant wait until iam 18 to go and the music is great. I have been listening to dance, trance, hrd nrg, hardcore, happy hardcore etc. All my life.
 
Rave
1. an all-night techno dance party
2. a dance party that lasts all night and electronically synthesized music is played

Yes, there are glowsticks at raves but what I think you are talking about is called Liquid Dancing.


Check this out. The Ravers Manifesto.




Our emotional state of choice is Ecstasy. Our nourishment of choice is Love. Our addiction of choice is technology. Our religion of choice is music. Our currency of choice is knowledge. Our politics of choice is none. Our society of choice is utopian though we know it will never be.

You may hate us. You may dismiss us. You may misunderstand us. You may be unaware of our existence. We can only hope you do not care to judge us, because we would never judge you. We are not criminals. We are not disillusioned. We are not drug addicts. We are not naive children. We are one massive, global, tribal village that transcends man-made law, physical geography, and time itself. We are The Massive. One Massive.

We were first drawn by the sound. From far away, the thunderous, muffled, echoing beat was comparable to a mother's heart soothing a child in her womb of concrete, steel, and electrical wiring. We were drawn back into this womb, and there, in the heat, dampness, and darkness of it, we came to accept that we are all equal. Not only to the darkness, and to ourselves, but to the very music slamming into us and passing through our souls: we are all equal. And somewhere around 35Hz we could feel the hand of God at our backs, pushing us forward, pushing us to push ourselves to strengthen our minds, our bodies, and our spirits. Pushing us to turn to the person beside us to join hands and uplift them by sharing the uncontrollable joy we felt from creating this magical bubble that can, for one evening, protect us from the horrors, atrocities, and pollution of the outside world. It is in that very instant, with these initial realizations that each of us was truly born.

We continue to pack our bodies into clubs, or warehouses, or buildings you've abandoned and left for naught, and we bring life to them for one night. Strong, throbbing, vibrant life in it's purest, most intense, most hedonistic form. In these makeshift spaces, we seek to shed ourselves of the burden of uncertainty for a future you have been unable to stabilize and secure for us. We seek to relinquish our inhibitions, and free ourselves from the shackles and restraints you've put on us for your own peace of mind. We seek to re-write the programming that you have tried to indoctrinate us with since the moment we were born. Programming that tells us to hate, that tells us to judge, that tells us to stuff ourselves into the nearest and most convenient pigeon hole possible. Programming that even tells us to climb ladders for you, jump through hoops, and run through mazes and on hamster wheels. Programming that tells us to eat from the shiny silver spoon you are trying to feed us with, instead of nourish ourselves with our own capable hands. Programming that tells us to close our minds, instead of open them.

Until the sun rises to burn our eyes by revealing the distopian reality of a world you've created for us, we dance fiercely with our brothers and sisters in celebration of our life, of our culture, and of the values we believe in: Peace, Love, Freedom, Tolerance, Unity, Harmony, Expression, Responsibility and Respect.

Our enemy of choice is ignorance. Our weapon of choice is information. Our crime of choice is breaking and challenging whatever laws you feel you need to put in place to stop us from celebrating our existence. But know that while you may shut down any given party, on any given night, in any given city, in any given country or continent on this beautiful planet, you can never shut down the entire party. You don't have access to that switch, no matter what you may think. The music will never stop. The heartbeat will never fade. The party will never end.

I am a raver, and this is my manifesto.
 
MazKid
I'll never go to one. I don't need to see people collapsing from drugs and crap. I hate dancing too so that rules that out.

What he said. 👍
 
I find the kind of music played at raves to be crappy, cheap, pop-like songs. As an electronica enthusiast I find this stuff embarrasing.

And that "Raver Manifesto" was one of the dumbest things I've ever read on these forums. At least the Hacker manifesto makes more sense then that one... :crazy:

The whole lifestyle just promotes drugs and crap. Even if you go and don't do drugs, the number of people there on them are probably a lot higher then you'd see at your average club.

Really, to me, Raves seem like the type of things for the people not old enough to get into REAL clubs. And since they're young immature kids, of course the drugs will be pouring out.

There's nothing to "experience", and there's nothing I'm missing out on by not going.
 
I feel that people who have never tried anything in terms of alcohol or drugs should not try to judge people who have. If there's one thing I absolutely hate it is people who distribute their unwanted opinions about things they're as inexperienced in as a mother****. Whose entire knowledge on the subject is tinted and often even based upon the obviously same subjective-to-the-bone opinions and thoughts of their parents, teachers and perhaps other social role models.

Saying that drugs, tabacco and alcohol are the absolute worst followed up by a firm statement stating "I've never used or even been in any near contact with these substances" is like saying you despise all Subaru automobiles (because you've been told so, or grew up to believe the blue and yellow colour combination is a wicked one) and because of that have obviously never touched one, ever.

I notice that this type of opinionating is a trend often pursued by the people I'd expect to give in to seemingly higher authority (such as parents) and mild propaganda (government), good or bad. It's very forgiving at young age - knowing that saying this puts myself on very thin nice, considering my own mere seventeen years of age - as you're still developing a sense of indepent thought, which means acquiring the ability to question instructions, advice and regulation that may or may not be shoved down your troat.

The day you discover that these seemingly higher authorities can be dead-wrong is a very fine one.

I've yet to meet the described person above who does not jump to the gun and assesses my thoughts as irrational and rebelious, concluding that I only developed this opinion to seperate and differentiate myself from, excuse me for repeating this term for the third time, seemingly higher authorities. I would say that I wouldn't mind; but I do, it bothers me.

The phenomenon 'stoners and ravers' doesn't exist in countries with liberal drug laws and accepting societies (US society is not accepting by my standards, fair enough; there's a green card lottery, but that's shoving the accepting ideal in people's faces). Every Dutch kid my age I know has come into contact with Drugs (legal age to purchase marijuana is eighteen years, but anyone younger could get their hands on it very easily), alcohol (legal age is sixteen years) and tabacco (legal age is sixteen years). And they've had their expirement, decided what they thought of it, then learned to moderate and use it in a way not affecting their life or not use any at all (which is far more common).

Whereas American society prohibits the **** out of everything, the main rush of substance use is based on the illegitimacy of it. One could say it's even induced by it. This also creates an enourmous contrast between users, which automatically become abusers and non-users.

So let me repeat that I hate people who base their judgment on nientè experience.
 
sn00pie
I feel that people who have never tried anything in terms of alcohol or drugs should not try to judge people who have. If there's one thing I absolutely hate it is people who distribute their unwanted opinions about things they're as inexperienced in as a mother****. Whose entire knowledge on the subject is tinted and often even based upon the obviously same subjective-to-the-bone opinions and thoughts of their parents, teachers and perhaps other social role models.

So I have to try heroin before I can call heroin users morons?
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I think anyone who needs a drug to either escape reality or to relax is lacking something inside themselves that every human being has. It's called being able to deal. Drugs are just the easy option, because you don't have to try hard to actually deal with life's problems.
 
The359
So I have to try heroin before I can call heroin users morons?
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Who mentioned anything about heroin?

I think anyone who needs a drug to either escape reality or to relax is lacking something inside themselves that every human being has. It's called being able to deal. Drugs are just the easy option, because you don't have to try hard to actually deal with life's problems.

That's a very good argument, and I totally argee.

But you have to try to stick to the context at hand, we are not discussing people who use drugs as a means of escaping reality in order to get away from their personal problems.

There's a big diffirence between recreational substance use and what you're refering to.

There's also a big diffirence between recreational drugs and seriously hazardous substances.

And I'm not even spelling 'difference' right!
 
I guess people could believe I go to raves because of some of my music but I've never been to one nor do I want to.
 
Why does everyone automatically assume that if you go to a rave that you do drugs? Or that raves = people passed out because they took some ecstacy? The media shoves so much bull**** down everyones throat that they are forced to belive it. "This week, a local rave was shut down by authorities because of substantial drug abuse." No, they shut the party down because one dealer sold some drugs to a few people that let themselves get out of controll. Or they shut the party down because a fight broke out, but saying they shut it down because of a fight doesn't make interesting news so they say that drugs was the reason beacuse during the breakup, the cops found some drugs on some people. People just try to make out raves as being bad and being a heaven for drug users. It isn't right. And it isn't true. Alot clubs outside of the US have banned drugs from the club and a lot of them don't even serve alcohol. Ministry of Sound, the biggest club in Europe doesn't even have a bar. Why? Because you go there to listen to the music and have a good time, not to get high, or trip, or get drunk or get laid.
 
Ministry of Sound isn't a warehouse rave...

Raves have a lot more drugs then average clubs do, its a simple fact. Nowhere did I say that everyone there does drugs, but you could easily walk around and find someone using drugs or at least carrying some at a large rave.
 
The359
Ministry of Sound isn't a warehouse rave...

Raves have a lot more drugs then average clubs do, its a simple fact. Nowhere did I say that everyone there does drugs, but you could easily walk around and find someone using drugs or at least carrying some at a large rave.


Where did I say you said that everyone there does drugs? Yes, your local broken down warehouse with skank hoes and drug dealers and crappy no name DJ's that can't spin will have more drugs and sex than an actual normal rave at a respectable club. I'm sure that when you go to any club, there's bound to be a few people with drugs on them, but that doesn't not make drugs prevalent.
 
If you go to a club, then it's no longer really a rave...
 
The359
If you go to a club, then it's no longer really a rave...



Technically, but...

Rave
1. an all-night techno dance party
2. a dance party that lasts all night and electronically synthesized music is played


Oh well, I think everyone has proved their point by now.
 
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