Re-configuring car classes

[The Vanishing Boy]

Hey guys,
I've been noticing since GT2, that theres something wrong regarding the designation of these cars in GT. For example, the old Fiat 500 (which is a Class-C w/ 40+ hp) go head-to-head against the Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (also a Class-C w/ 130+ hp), or a Renault Clio V6 (w/c is a Class-S but performs like a Class-A w/ 240+ hp) against the Wiegart-Vector W8 (also a Class-S but w/ 900+ hp). And why in the Class-S area a road production supercar (like a Ford GT40) can get mixed up with the DTM/JGTC/BTCC/Le Mans/etc. racecars which it happened in GT3, WTF?!!

I think PD needs more work on designating these cars besed on horsepower per performance ratio. Here are my suggestions:

-On the Class-C area, they should separate between the ultra-slow (old Fiat 500) [0-50 hp], to very-slow (Daihatsu Midget II) [51-94 hp], to slow (Mitsubishi Lancer OZ Rally) [95-155 hp]. Which results to Class-E, Class-D, and Class-C respectively.

-On the Class-B and Class-A area is okey, so lets leave it that way.

-On the Class-S, same goes with the Class-C separate them from the exotic (RUF CTR), to road-spec race cars {with no racing stripes}(Jaguar XJ220 roadcar), and last but not the least, the Race Spec cars ([R]Autobacs NSX). Which it will be Class-S, Class-SS, and Class-R or R-Spec (whatever you want to call it) respectively.

-And on the Rally Class, separate the Pikes Peak cars ([R]Suzuki Escudo P.P.R.C.), the WRC-Spec cars ([R]Subaru Impreza WRC) and the Endurace-Racers ([R]Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution Race Truck from Paris-Dakar Rally).

Take note that this will not only be based by horsepower but in overall performance of each vehicle in the future GT games, even if not going to be in GT4.

This style (to me) will make racing with the CPU or other players (spit-screen or online) fair, no more "this car is so slow for this class".

And I would like to see the [R] logo from GT1 & GT2 back to GT4. It looks good with it.

What do you think?

 

[miata13B]

I think you spent way too much free time thinking this up . Sounds good though , and I agree. : )

 

[Dave A]

As long as it's better than in previouse GT's, I hated trying a mildly tuned car in arcade mode and being pared up against Castrol Supras and the like. You ridea's are sound but the game needs a way of working out how good a cars performance is and to do that it will need to use numbers like Bhp, weight, torque ect.

 

[james_uk]

ummmmm...people don't usually use class c very much though so i dnt no whether it would be worth it. however maybe a class d would be good, but no more than that.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

The reason why I put this thread is because for the much slower cars like the Ford Model T, the old Fiat 500, and the old VW Beetle. Those cars fit the Class-E category in which these cars are way slower than the Daihatsu Midget II (in which it deserves to be on Class-D).

And to resolve the mix-up o the Class-S category.

BTW, I like racing with Class-C and below cars, its a perfect category to practice endurace, patience, and just the heck of it.

 

[Majin SSJ Eric]

It would also be nice if you had the option to choose your opponents.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

That is also a good idea! Pick your 6 CPU cars to compete with, but the downside is how you will be able to scroll all of these cars (esp. in GT4 there will be more than 600 cars)?

 

[stico]

This is a good idea. In GT2 I liked to use a properly tuned lower class car (or a classic car like a Lotus) to beat the "better" cars.

I agree that it would be nice to use a certain class car to race in it's own or in a higher class of cars. This makes the challenge for yourself higher and the reward of winning is bigger. It is way to easy to use a monster and lap your opponents several times. This is BORING.

 

[Rport03]

I like useing the C class cars in GT3s arcade mose heck even the class A and B not always the class S cars because its always nice to drive a nice slow car around a track, true we always need a rish of "speed" in a game but it still is nice though, but breaking them even more would be great for the online portion, like a race where Only a certain class of cars coulld be in, plus with over 600 cars it'll be a huge job looking for a car to race with

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

Actually for me, its more fun racing on slower Class-E to Class-A cars than racing on Class-A to Class-SS cars. Sure the gameplay is way long than when you're using faster car but, I can't help it. I want to test these cars esp. where they are not available in the US.

Everyday cars rules!!!

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

And also, slower cars are better in smaller tracks like Autumn Ring-Mini, Motor Sports Land, Clubman Stage R5, Grand Valley-East, and the immaculate High Speed Ring.