Read this to know how to drift

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TO LEARN HOW TO DRIFT SIMPLY WATCH THE DRIFT BIBLE FROM KEIICHI TSUCHIYA AKA DRIFT KING ....... CLICK HERE

Im just trying to help people who dont have a clue where to start or how to perform some drifting. First of all you wanna get use to drive on a track, you need to learn what the [WIKIPEDIA]Racing_line[/WIKIPEDIA] is and what the apex is.
Make sure you know what [WIKIPEDIA]Oversteer[/WIKIPEDIA] and [WIKIPEDIA]Understeer[/WIKIPEDIA] is also. Then you need to find a good lightweight underpowered FR car (in drift competions, 99% of the top drifters choose cars with the engine in the front and the power is only transmitted to the rear wheels, others use mid engine or rear engine cars) and a good track to start with (mountain road or mountain circuit or a tight corner) Drifting was born on the wet mountain roads in japan. Its the most exciting way to drive a car but is often a little slower then full grip racing. Mountain roads are a very unique environment to drive in and is very different from anything else. In tight corners such as hairpins, you might wanna make your tail slide even when grip racing especially if the corner is downhill cause the gravity makes you go even faster, mix that with some rain and a RWD car and some high rpms and you can probably go as fast or faster by drifting then by gripping, thats when drifting was born. To learn even more about all that you should watch the Initial D Japanese Touge Street Racing Anime Series RIGHT HERE ON YOUTUBE

HERE IS MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF DRIFTING BUT I DIDNT WRITE THIS

Modern drifting started out as a racing technique popular in the All Japan Touring Car Championship races over 30 years ago. Motorcycling legend turned driver, Kunimitsu Takahashi, was the foremost creator of drifting techniques in the 1970s. He was famous for hitting the apex (the point where the car is closest to the inside of a turn) at high speed and then drifting through the corner, preserving a high exit speed. This earned him several championships and a legion of fans who enjoyed the spectacle of burning tires. The bias ply racing tires of the 1960s-1980s lent themselves to driving styles with a high slip angle. As professional racers in Japan drove this way, so did the street racers.

A street racer named Keiichi Tsuchiya became particularly interested by Takahashi's drift techniques. Tsuchiya began practicing his drifting skills on the mountain roads of Japan, and quickly gained a reputation amongst the racing crowd. In 1987, several popular car magazines and tuning garages agreed to produce a video of Tsuchiya's drifting skills. The video, known as PLUPSY, became a hit and inspired many of the professional drifting drivers on the circuits today. In 1988, alongside Option magazine founder and chief editor Daijiro Inada, he would help to organize one of the first events specifically for drifting. He also drifted every turn in Tsukuba Circuit in Japan.

One of the earliest recorded drift events outside Japan was in 1996, held at Willow Springs Raceway in Willow Springs, California hosted by the Japanese drifting magazine and organisation Option. Inada, the NHRA Funny Car drag racer Kenji Okazaki and Dorikin, who also gave demonstrations in a Nissan 180SX that the magazine brought over from Japan, judged the event with Rhys Millen and Bryan Norris being two of the entrants. [1] Drifting has since exploded into a massively popular form of motorsport in North America, Australasia, and Europe. One of the first drifting competitions in Europe was hosted in 2002 by the OPT drift club at Turweston, run by a tuning business called Option Motorsport. The club held a championship called D1UK, then later became the Autoglym Drift Championship. For legal reasons, the business was forced to drop the Option and D1 name. The club has since been absorbed into the D1 franchise as a national series.

And here is a real life video that shows some mountain racing (Touge) action and shows you who the drift king really is.



Hes not the drift king because hes the best drifter in the world, nobody can be the best at drifting, everyone is different. Hes the drift king because he drifts even when hes racing and he invented a new drifting technique and because hes the 1 who made THE DRIFT BIBLE and hes involved in the making of Initial D and even TOKYO DRIFT and made drifting the internationnal sport it is today and is also a part of the biggest and first drifting competition in the world and a judge, but really that nickname just goes way back like they explain IN THIS VIDEO Racing and drifting go hand in hand and Keiichi is as much of a racer if not more then a drifter.

Many people complain because I make GT5 drift videos and put drift king in the tittle, but that dosent mean I think im the best, its just that I kind of drive like Keiichi Tsuchiya, I handicap myself, when i race im always trying to drift and trying to make it as exciting as possible, I have a no handbrake if possible policy and I really see alot of ressemblance between me and Keiichi Tsuchiya's driving and mentality.


SKIP THE TOKYO DRIFT TRAILER AT THE BEGGINING, IT STOPS AT 2:10


I really like the nissan 350z for drifting in GT5 and I love the Opera/Amuse Gran Turismo RS version, its a good starter car and a very well balanced car, usually a good racing car will also be a good drift car with different settings. I recommend using it to learn drifting, you dont need any settings, just go on eiger nordwand, put some sports tires and there you go. When you start getting the hang of it you can actually gradually put more power but shaving some weight first and trying to specifically adjust the gears for the track soo you never run out of power in the middle of a drift because the gear is too long. You also wanna lower the car and the center of gravity at the same time and stiffen the suspension a little because factory cars have soft suspension for comfort but you dont need that on the race track :S. Augment the steering angle to recover from bigger angles of oversteer. Then you can take off the abs and put more pressure on the rear brakes to make you oversteer when you apply the brakes.... but the settings in gt5 are very limited

VERY IMPORTANT!!! TO DRIFT PROPERLY YOU NEED TO TAKE OFF ALL THE ASSISTS IN THE GAME, INCLUDING THE TRACTION CONTROL, STABILITY MANAGEMENT, PUT PROFESSIONNAL PHYSICS, AND YOU SHOULD USE A 900 DEGREE STEERING WHEEL WITH NO POWER ASSISTED STEERING AND YOU SHOULD EVEN TAKE OFF ABS SYSTEM IF YOU CAN


YOU SHOULD EVEN TAKE OF THE DRIVING LINE BUT ITS GOOD FOR PRACTICING AND WHEN TRYING TO GET THE MOST POINTS ON DRIFT TRIAL


You will learn more about drifting by watching the making of then by actually watching Tokyo drift lol





 
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Then you need to find a good lightweight underpowered FR car (in drift competions, 100% of the drivers choose cars with the engine in the front and the power is only transmitted to the rear wheels) and a good track to start with (mountain road or mountain circuit or a tight corner)
Oh really? Can you explain why this Porsche has a Formula D banner across the windshield?
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Or how about this MR2 that is sporting a D1 banner across his windshield?
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Oh really? Can you explain why this Porsche has a Formula D banner across the windshield?
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Or how about this MR2 that is sporting a D1 banner across his windshield?
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very usefull information, thanks alot, i was actually trying to find that information the other day because I was arguing with my cousin about it...anyways I changed the statement

Then you need to find a good lightweight underpowered FR car (in drift competions, 99% of the top drifters choose cars with the engine in the front and the power is only transmitted to the rear wheels, others use mid engine or rear engine cars)


I would like to see some videos, and know if they made it into the finals or whos the driver and how long they been drifting and all that, I wonder how those cars perform in a tandem with another FR car and it would be funny if they were actually converted to FR or something


I actually found out that the MR2 didnt do too good actually but I saw videos of the porsche and it was looking good, but I bet it drifts to fast compared to the other cars so he cant stay behind and match the angle of the cars hes battling with
 
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Wow, that's actually really interesting. It would be pretty fun to enter one of those drift compititions just to goof off.
 
You really don't know anything about actual drifting, do you? Random "facts," more assumptions than I care to count, and on and on.
 
You really don't know anything about actual drifting, do you? Random "facts," more assumptions than I care to count, and on and on.

I dont understand what you mean, actual drifting? Its easy to come and talk **** and tell me I dont know anything but what do you know?
 
I dont understand what you mean, actual drifting? Its easy to come and talk **** and tell me I dont know anything but what do you know?

A whole lot more than a person that comes in and pastes an article straight of the net and then links to some youtube clips. Perhaps if you referenced your sources, or did not use false absolutes, such as "in drift competions, 100% of the top drifters choose cars with the engine in the front and the power is only transmitted to the rear wheels." You later revised this once someone placed some kind links to a 911 and SW20.

Also, telling people to watch Initial D to learn more about drifting? And referencing the Fast and the Furious. Varify your understanding beyond GT5:P and some random clips of highly popularized drifting events and I'll begin to hold some of you "knowledge" in respect...
 
A whole lot more than a person that comes in and pastes an article straight of the net and then links to some youtube clips. Perhaps if you referenced your sources, or did not use false absolutes, such as "in drift competions, 100% of the top drifters choose cars with the engine in the front and the power is only transmitted to the rear wheels." You later revised this once someone placed some kind links to a 911 and SW20.

Also, telling people to watch Initial D to learn more about drifting? And referencing the Fast and the Furious. Varify your understanding beyond GT5:P and some random clips of highly popularized drifting events and I'll begin to hold some of you "knowledge" in respect...

Your just here to try and put me down but this thread is not about my knowledge or proving you I know more, you just dont get it, its for people who wanna know more about drifting and that dont really know how its suppose to be done, not for idiots to come and say they know more then everybody else...the reference I used are from behind the scenes footage of fast and furious including alot of Keiichi Tsuchiya footage and he explains alot of things that have nothing to do with fast and furious. This is not a drifting video thread, this is not for expert drifters, its for people who dont know alot about drifting. Most of the knowledge in this thread is not mine and thats the point soo stop crying if you dont agree with Keiichi Tsuchiya, cause hes the main person behind all this, I know plenty of real drifters who agree with him.
 
I never said I disagree with him. What I am saying is you just push whatever you hear out there and call it fact. Or valid. Or the methods you need to know.

When you just put someone's work down, you should generally state where you got said info.

Your attitude, even about drifting in the game, seems to be some air of superiority and that you are some how "awesome." The reality is you know almost nothing about actual, real world, drifting and racing. And its pretty clear with this...
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Mountain roads are a very unique environment to drive in and is very different from anything else. In tight corners such as hairpins, you might wanna make your tail slide even when grip racing especially if the corner is downhill cause the gravity makes you go even faster, mix that with some rain and a RWD car and some high rpms and you can probably go as fast or faster by drifting then by gripping, thats when drifting was born
 
If you make a thread titled: "Read this to know how to drift"... it would be nice if it, y'know... had some actual drift theory and techniques in it... instead of an essay on how you feel you drive like Keiichi Tsuchiya.

Y'know... work in words about how to practice a drift... how to initiate an inertial drift, a handbrake drift... how to perform a "Scandinavian Flick"... tips on which tracks in GT5P to practice on... which corners are good for beginners, which ones help teach advanced techniques and transitions or linked drifts... (the words "mountain circuit" aren't very specific)... how to toggle weight balance and handling balance through altering suspension parameters to induce understeering cars to oversteer or to control oversteer in twitchy cars... handbrake techniques... etcetera.

And when you say things like "You should use a 900 degree steering wheel" or "you might wanna make your tail slide even when grip racing especially if the corner is downhill cause the gravity makes you go even faster"... a lot of the more experienced drifters and racers on GTPlanet (and indeed, those of us that do have experience driving on the racetrack and in the mountains) will likely take exception at what you're posting.
 
Y'know... work in words about how to practice a drift... how to initiate an inertial drift, a handbrake drift... how to perform a "Scandinavian Flick"... tips on which tracks in GT5P to practice on... which corners are good for beginners, which ones help teach advanced techniques and transitions or linked drifts..

That almost had me spit beer all over the screen. I have drifted with this guy and it cracks me up when he says NO HANDBRAKE like its impressive. This guy cant use the ebrake to save his life....

I have a no handbrake if possible policy and I really see alot of ressemblance between me and Keiichi Tsuchiya's driving and mentality.
Please child do us all a favor and dont EVER say there is ANY resemblance between you and tsuchiya or anyone that can drift in general THANK YOU..

Also you are the LAST PERSON that should be trying to tell or show people how to drift. Maybe u should play forza or another game with people that think there pro drifters also, because the way u come off with all of your know how just makes u look like an a$$ in the end...
 
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If you make a thread titled: "Read this to know how to drift"... it would be nice if it, y'know... had some actual drift theory and techniques in it... instead of an essay on how you feel you drive like Keiichi Tsuchiya.

Y'know... work in words about how to practice a drift... how to initiate an inertial drift, a handbrake drift... how to perform a "Scandinavian Flick"... tips on which tracks in GT5P to practice on... which corners are good for beginners, which ones help teach advanced techniques and transitions or linked drifts... (the words "mountain circuit" aren't very specific)... how to toggle weight balance and handling balance through altering suspension parameters to induce understeering cars to oversteer or to control oversteer in twitchy cars... handbrake techniques... etcetera.

And when you say things like "You should use a 900 degree steering wheel" or "you might wanna make your tail slide even when grip racing especially if the corner is downhill cause the gravity makes you go even faster"... a lot of the more experienced drifters and racers on GTPlanet (and indeed, those of us that do have experience driving on the racetrack and in the mountains) will likely take exception at what you're posting.

Of course if you dont bother clicking on the right places and checking out everything you wont see anything, but the first thing on top of the thread is a link to the drift bible wich should explain everything you need to know


I also HIGHLIGHTED a couple of word soo when you click on them it links to some information or video, and I also explained how drifting was born on tight corners and thats what should be used to learn it, such as the hairpins in Eiger Nordwand, I also find the 2 last double apex corners in Fuji are very good natural drifting corners much like the last corner of Eiger or the more difficult first corner of Suzuka...

I know people are gonna argue with me if I put my personnal knowledge soo I rather just make a thread and post things that I really think will help people understand drifting better, who is stupid enough to argue with the drift king, I know GTP Asylum is one of them.
 
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Once again the GT5:P Drifting section is in ruins...

Anyways I find that this article is useful and not useful. Using Initial D as a e.g. is bad. Initial D is great and all but its still an anime.

Simple solution to drift is practice with your own car and play with things.

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There is definately some good information there. Initial D as a reference actually isn't HORRIBLE, because in theory all the methods/ideas/techniques they talk about ARE real, it's just there really isn't anyone good enough to fully MASTER and pull them off like mr. Takumi Fujiwara does in an instant. If you were to watch from the begining stages to the end, they definately go into detail about certain aspects that can help understand how the car works/reacts to different situations, but it's mostly for entertainment.

The drift bible is a very good example of a tutorial. Funny thing is, when i was drifting in GT3 when i was good, linking tracks complete laps at trial mountain Etc. A LOT of the techniques or things i was doing was EXACTLY what Tsuchiya explains/describes in the Drift Bible, i just didn't know it! As far as weight transfer, braking drift, using brakes/throttle to adjust angle and drifting line.

You know you are getting better at drifting when you mess up a drift, and you immediately know WHY!?!. You tell yourself, too much counter-steering (straightening out), Too much throttle/not enough counter-steer (spin out), Not ENOUGH throttle/weight transfer (understeer), or durring weight transfers.

Braking is a BIG part of drifting. You can use braking to start a drift, to maintain angle/slow-down durring a drift and also at the right timing you can slow the switch back weight transfer when swinging from one direction to the other. It really just takes practice to see what inputs steering/gas/braking does before/durring/ending a drift. You need to adapt because each car is going to react differently. So when you are starting it's good to stick to one car and set-up you like. Then when you are confident/comfortable with the physics/balance and techniques you can start messing with other cars, other tracks etc. EIGER would be the Best in my opinion to start off as it has slow speed s-turns, medium/high speed s-turns and the long sweeper turn that is medium speed, elevation changes that realy affect how a car drifts/handles. :)👍
 
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Keiichi Tsuchiya uses the e-brake..........

What you've written here seems good, but it doesn't really pertain to GT5P, IMHO
What does the history of drifting have to do with drifiting in GT5P?

Anywho, I enjoyed the making of tokyo drift vids :)
 
You know, one could argue drifting was born long ago in rally racing and old oval dirt track racing.

You seem to think Tsuchiya is the only source for drifting... and the end all on info for it. And I don't know if I'd argue with him, but I will argue with the way BMi translates stuff for their movies...
 
Keiichi Tsuchiya uses the e-brake..........

What you've written here seems good, but it doesn't really pertain to GT5P, IMHO
What does the history of drifting have to do with drifiting in GT5P?

Anywho, I enjoyed the making of tokyo drift vids :)

Have you seen the one where they explain about Tsuchiya trying to purposely Drift "BAD/Wrong" HAHAHAHAHA. They were explaining it was harder for him to purposely make mistakes....:)👍 (sorry not go to off topic).
 
I'm sorry, but this topic has been done to death. If this had anything to do with GT5P I might let it slide, but this has more to do with drifting in the real world. Yes the techniques are the same, but you have not posted anything regarding the relationship between drifting in the real world, and drifting in GT5P. Just random clips from the "Drift Bible", scenes from Tokyo Drift, and a link to an Anime based on drifting. Nothing terribly relevant to GT5P.

I would say this belongs in the Drifting and Motorsports forum, but alas such things have been posted there before.




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