Real formula 1 cars.

[Hanskryger]

Do any of you guys know how many revs a modern formula one car can do? I´m talking about the motor..

 

[Famine]

An engine is not a motor - but that's another story.

19,000rpm.

 

[colnago]

An engine is not a motor - but that's another story.

19,000rpm.

19,200 for some lumps... , and next gen V-8s will reportedly run at 22k.

 

[kennythebomb]

An engine is not a motor - but that's another story.

19,000rpm.

How do you figure?

 

[Hanskryger]

could you please tell me the difference?

 

[DuckRacer]

I consider a motor something a lawnmower meeds. Or a power scooter. I consider an engine something that a car needs.

However, Famine will be able to tell you the difference more accurately, so take my thought with a grain of salt.

 

[jammyozzy]

An engine is not a motor - but that's another story.

Well, i'd class this as a motor:
[img=http://img282.echo.cx/img282/715/acinductionmotorcutaway7ew.th.jpg]
And this as an engine:
[img=http://img282.echo.cx/img282/5195/kamazengine74030260bus9zn.th.jpg]
So unless you want electric powered F1 cars, Scalextric style, it's an engine.
N.B. This is to Hans and Kenny.

 

[Famine]

How do you figure?

could you please tell me the difference?

How do I figure what, and the difference between what and what?

 

[Hanskryger]

Nevermind Femine.
Jammyozzy made it clear. Thanks for your replie.

 

[wfooshee]

There is a tendency to limit the term motor to that class of devices which convert electricity to motion, and to use the term engine to mean any other mechanical contrivance which produces some form of motion. However, we Yanks dispute such differentiation. I quote from dictionary.com, which being American, may be beneath the standards required by the Queen's loyal subjects:

mo·tor

1. Something, such as a machine or an engine, that produces or imparts motion.
2. A device that converts any form of energy into mechanical energy, especially an internal-combustion engine or an arrangement of coils and magnets that converts electric current into mechanical power.

 

[wilsonk]

Entry Word: motor
Function: noun
Text: 1 a device that changes energy into mechanical motion <the device was equipped with a small electrical motor to make the gears spin> -- see ENGINE
2 a self-propelled passenger vehicle on wheels <went shopping for a new automobile at Valley Motors>


http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/thesaurus?book=Thesaurus&va=motor

same bloody thing

 

[katana87]

you could go to the Formula 1 forum they have a lot of good threads

 

[Grand Prix]

I hear a lot of British people refer to automobiles as 'motor cars' though...And they're not referring to electric motor cars, but internal combustion engined cars.

Commom grammer mistake? Or is an engine indeed a subheading of motors?

 

[kennythebomb]

Here's what I would classify as a motor.

Here's what I would classify as an engine.

 

[soptom]

Why not answer the question and leave it at that instead of trying to look smart and ending up looking like a pedant.

 

[Grand Prix]

So, a motor is an actual engine block.

An engine is a motor with various other vital parts added to it.


I don't think anybody knows the difference!

 

[kennythebomb]

So, a motor is an actual engine block.

An engine is a motor with various other vital parts added to it.

Sorry, I meant to say via pictures that it's the same thing. Sorry if you interpreted it that way. I should have used two in the same style

 

[Grand Prix]

Sorry, I meant to say via pictures that it's the same thing. Sorry if you interpreted it that way. I should have used two in the same style

Hmmm. 💡

I think the definition I got actually makes sense. A motor is a power unit. An engine is a power plant.

 

[colnago]

Wow!!! You guys act like you just finished taking the SATs.


Fill in the blank:

17) Motor is to _______, as Engine is to Car.


I "thought" this post was about, "How high is the number on the tachometer for the thing that makes all that noise, vibrates a lot, and burns a lot of fuel in an F1 car?" But I guess now somebody will say that its not a "car" but a "chassis" or something.

 

[Grand Prix]

Wow!!! You guys act like you just finished taking the SATs.


Fill in the blank:

17) Motor is to _______, as Engine is to Car.


I "thought" this post was about, "How high is the number on the tachometer for the thing that makes all that noise, vibrates a lot, and burns a lot of fuel in an F1 car?" But I guess now somebody will say that its not a "car" but a "chassis" or something.

But the body frame is part of the chassis!

 

[kennythebomb]

But the body frame is part of the chassis!

LOL!

 

[initialdrift]

the 19,000rpm engine is a william qualifing unit that only runs for two- three laps before rebuild.

 

[JTSnooks]

Wow, Famine sure stirred up some people in this one! That troublemaker I never refer to an IC engine as a "motor", and I never refer to an electric motor as an "engine". However, they are interchangeable, I just separate them to be a little more clear. If someone asks about the motor in a car, of course I'm going to know they're talking about the engine (unless it's a hybrid or electric...or they're talking about the fan motor, power window motor, power antenna motor, etc. )

 

[Famine]

Wow, Famine sure stirred up some people in this one! That troublemaker I never refer to an IC engine as a "motor", and I never refer to an electric motor as an "engine". However, they are interchangeable, I just separate them to be a little more clear. If someone asks about the motor in a car, of course I'm going to know they're talking about the engine (unless it's a hybrid or electric...or they're talking about the fan motor, power window motor, power antenna motor, etc. )

It IS fun, isn't it?

What the language-purists fail to realise when they quote dictionaries is that dictionaries evolve according to common usage. If enough people say something, it gets in even if it's wrong. Take the example of "stonewall" in the UK, which has come to mean "100% certainty" when it obviously doesn't.

From a scientific and engineering point of view - the correct point of view - a motor is an engine, but an engine isn't a motor.

 

[chinny]

From what I heard last both BMW and Toyotas F1 Engines are at about 19,200 to 19,500 rpm. I think I read somewhere that Hondas V8 for next year is already running at 20,000rpm. The rise in revs due to less twist in the crank due to the motor being shorter.

On a slightly off topic note, if your going to put large images up can you please thumbnail them as it really screws with my browser, and believe it or not but there are still some of us that are on dial up connections not dsl.
ta

 

[Famine]

On a slightly off topic note, if your going to put large images up can you please thumbnail them as it really screws with my browser, and believe it or not but there are still some of us that are on dial up connections not dsl.
ta

Good point, well made.

 

[KennethCWK]

hmmm... motor sport (or motorsport) involves cars, among other things.
why is that? motor = car, huh?

 

[jammyozzy]

hmmm... motor sport (or motorsport) involves cars, among other things.
why is that? motor = car, huh?

Motorised Sport?

 

[kennythebomb]

It IS fun, isn't it?

What the language-purists fail to realise when they quote dictionaries is that dictionaries evolve according to common usage. If enough people say something, it gets in even if it's wrong. Take the example of "stonewall" in the UK, which has come to mean "100% certainty" when it obviously doesn't.

From a scientific and engineering point of view - the correct point of view - a motor is an engine, but an engine isn't a motor.

In my view, if common usage of a word brings about a new or 'wrong' meaning for it, then it fails to be 'wrong' usage of the word if the majority of people understand what you are trying to communicate. After all, that's the point of language isn't it? To convey what you mean. But I understand now what you guys mean by a technical standpoint.

Sorry about posting two big images, but come on that's two, try going into some of the early photomode competitions

 

[Famine]

In my view, if common usage of a word brings about a new or 'wrong' meaning for it, then it fails to be 'wrong' usage of the word if the majority of people understand what you are trying to communicate.

It's certainly an interesting - and valid - point of view and probably better suited for the Opinions forum.

However, for an example, a small object with six sides, each bearing a different number which is commonly rolled in games of chance is called "a die" - but 95% of people will say it's "a dice", which is of course the plural.

One die is correct. One dice is incorrect, yet the majority understand it...

Crazy old world.