Red Arrows Pilot dies in crash at Bournemouth Air Festival

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14602900


Red 4, (Jon Egging) was killed as the planes returned to bournemouth airport after a display, they did one final manouvere to say thank you to the staff at the airport however as they split red 4 looped down towards the ground and impacted in a field near some houses. The pilot was pronounced dead on the scene. The display team have been grounded untill the cause of the crash has been established.






RIP
 
That's weird. The Hawk is nearly forty years old. I think we can see where this will lead.

It seems, from reading elsewhere, that he stayed in the aircraft as long as possible to avoid hitting houses and people walking in the fields he was trying to put down in. A commendable last act, no doubt, but a shame he didn't make it none-the-less.
 
Sad day in aviation all around.

Stunt pilot Bryan Jensen is dead in an air show crash today as well.
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http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/stunt-pilot-dies-in-us-air-show-crash-20110821-1j4dn.html

12 also killed today in Canadian 737 crash.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...-are-killed-in-canadian-arctic-737-crash.html


RIP


EDIT: Another one as well in New Jersey, one dead.
http://azstarnet.com/news/national/article_879b9a4e-3a42-54ac-94f3-4b71c91a6455.html


What a tragic day.
 
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That's what these people do. They do everything they can, but sometimes the limits just come too close. Sometimes something does something it shouldn't.

Definitely sad to hear about Arrow 4. These things do happen though. It's happened to most major aerobatics teams at some point, always a reminder that these guys are risking their lives to entertain us and keep us safe while doing so.
 
Jim Prower
That's what these people do. They do everything they can, but sometimes the limits just come too close. Sometimes something does something it shouldn't.

Definitely sad to hear about Arrow 4. These things do happen though. It's happened to most major aerobatics teams at some point, always a reminder that these guys are risking their lives to entertain us and keep us safe while doing so.
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Very well said. 👍

R.I.P.
 
Gutted to hear this, the Red Arrows are by far the most spectacular display team I've ever seen.

Griffith500
That's weird. The Hawk is nearly forty years old. I think we can see where this will lead.

It seems, from reading elsewhere, that he stayed in the aircraft as long as possible to avoid hitting houses and people walking in the fields he was trying to put down in. A commendable last act, no doubt, but a shame he didn't make it none-the-less.
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I don't see what the age of the aircraft has to do with it. There are many aircraft in the skies that are just as old if not older designs. I doubt the planes the Reds were flying are that old, even if the design is.
Even if the Hawk did suddenly have a fundamental flaw in its design (which after 40 years of service would be close to impossible), there surely isn't many suitable aircraft to replace it with.

Thats not to say there wasn't a mechanical failure or a problem caused by age and wear. Its just I doubt the Hawks the Red Arrows fly are themselves 40 years old or that being a 40-year old design factored into the accident.

It seems he never tried to eject, so I agree with the thoughts that he might have stayed in to try and ditch somewhere safe. I hope this is what comes out of the investigation too.
 
I have a cousin who is a plane mechanic for the Red Arrows. I've not spoken to him about this, but from what I understand, the planes are always maintained to a high standard and they are literally as new (in terms of servicing) every time they fly out.
 
R.I.P. and my condolences to everyone who lost someone, really a horrible day regarding aviation.

Would like to know what exactly happend at the Red Arrows accident though, there's no contact, speed seems to be high so he didn't stall, strange.
 
Griffith500
It seems, from reading elsewhere, that he stayed in the aircraft as long as possible to avoid hitting houses and people walking in the fields he was trying to put down in. A commendable last act, no doubt, but a shame he didn't make it none-the-less.
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Giving your own life to save others. IMO this has to be the highest commendable act.
There is nothing more deserving of respect and praise than this pilots last actions.

R.I.P.
 
A tragic loss to his friends, family and colleagues. He was undoubtedly a skilled pilot who I saw recently fly at the RIAT Fairford. I can only assume he remained in the aircraft to avoid hitting anyone on the ground but we'll have to wait and see the results of the investigation.

This will not be the end of the T1, which is slowly being replaced anyway, but may be the end of the Red Arrows. There has been pressure from the budget cuts to reduce or cut the RA, I hope this isn't their final act.
 
Ardius
Gutted to hear this, the Red Arrows are by far the most spectacular display team I've ever seen.



I don't see what the age of the aircraft has to do with it. There are many aircraft in the skies that are just as old if not older designs. I doubt the planes the Reds were flying are that old, even if the design is.
Even if the Hawk did suddenly have a fundamental flaw in its design (which after 40 years of service would be close to impossible), there surely isn't many suitable aircraft to replace it with.

Thats not to say there wasn't a mechanical failure or a problem caused by age and wear. Its just I doubt the Hawks the Red Arrows fly are themselves 40 years old or that being a 40-year old design factored into the accident.

It seems he never tried to eject, so I agree with the thoughts that he might have stayed in to try and ditch somewhere safe. I hope this is what comes out of the investigation too.
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There re very few aircraft that are 40 year old designs. The 747 which was introduced in the 70s has been revises multiple times.

RIP, we have lost a great pilot, and a noble man.
 
Ardius
Gutted to hear this, the Red Arrows are by far the most spectacular display team I've ever seen.

I don't see what the age of the aircraft has to do with it. There are many aircraft in the skies that are just as old if not older designs. I doubt the planes the Reds were flying are that old, even if the design is.
Even if the Hawk did suddenly have a fundamental flaw in its design (which after 40 years of service would be close to impossible), there surely isn't many suitable aircraft to replace it with.

Thats not to say there wasn't a mechanical failure or a problem caused by age and wear. Its just I doubt the Hawks the Red Arrows fly are themselves 40 years old or that being a 40-year old design factored into the accident.
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I agree. But the government will no doubt act on this.
However, that will play out its own way, and is inconsequential in light of the tragedy. I shouldn't have mentioned it.
Ardius
It seems he never tried to eject, so I agree with the thoughts that he might have stayed in to try and ditch somewhere safe. I hope this is what comes out of the investigation too.
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His parachute was apparently found in the river (with or without Flt. Lt. Egging; accounts are conflicting), the ejector seat somewhere in the field. So it seems like he may have hung on "too long", or there was a malfunction / complication of some kind. I don't know how these ejection systems work, though. All of this would still point to his staying at the controls as long as possible.
Submerged
I have a cousin who is a plane mechanic for the Red Arrows. I've not spoken to him about this, but from what I understand, the planes are always maintained to a high standard and they are literally as new (in terms of servicing) every time they fly out.
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Yes, the maintenance the armed-forces aircraft receive is second-to-none. All respect given to the groundcrews.
Jay.
Giving your own life to save others. IMO this has to be the highest commendable act.
There is nothing more deserving of respect and praise than this pilots last actions.

R.I.P.
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Indeed. Our thoughts should be with those surviving the victims of these terrible accidents.
 
ryanb98
There re very few aircraft that are 40 year old designs. The 747 which was introduced in the 70s has been revises multiple times.
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Look, its an irrelevant point is all I'm saying. I'm pretty sure the Hawk has also been upgraded and revised through its life, as all aircraft normally are. The point is that I doubt there is some serious problem to do with the age of the plane.
 
ryanb98
There re very few aircraft that are 40 year old designs. The 747 which was introduced in the 70s has been revises multiple times.

RIP, we have lost a great pilot, and a noble man.
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Boeing 747-early versions still fly, BAe Hawk, Dornier Alpha Jet, B52, F4 Phantom, DeHaviland Comet/Nimrod, Mirage F1. Do you want me to go on?
 
My personal view on the cause of this accident is that it was a mechanical fault.

There have been very few hawk crashes, they seem to be quite reliable. I very much doubt that there was a fault in the preperation of the aircraft. However good your preperation may be stuff will break, luckily with the hawk this is very infrequently, however occasionally something will fail, causing a problem. And that is what I think happened here, a mechanical failure down to no ones fault, just at a very unfortunate time.
 
A grievous accident of an aircraft and a loss of a beloved pilot after the airplane show and that must have been the tragic day for all the aviation crews... Rest in peace and mournings for those who lost their colleague.
 

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