Red Eye's self-induced intervention

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This topic was inspired by the recently closed (probably the best idea as far as a group convo is concerned 👍 boom 👍 ) topic that miata started.

As you all may know, I've been around for a few months and have made about as many friends as I have enemies.

The enemy part has certainly not been my intent, and would appreciate some feedback, positive or negative, concerning my attitude on the forum.

I can assure you all that I wont be offended by your critisim, and look forward to hear how I can make a more positive impact on the GTP community.
 
RER - you're a wanker
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j/k Actually I personally like the attitude you have and the way you conduct yourself. Others may not agree, but that all comes with history.
 
Thanx for the feedback miata. We've never had any issues between us that I know of,,... it's good to hear that I may be on the right track. :cheers:

I'd like to take this moment to explain myself concerning the users I named a (IMO of course) anti-american.

I, not suprisingly, have a few things about this country that I dont like, but it it my country, and it has given me a good life. WhenI say I think someone is anit-american, and I dont like them for it,... it could be taken a few ways. To be more specific, look at it like a high school rivalry. You dont hate the people there, you just dont want to be on there side cause they want to see your school lose. Anti-nationalism is the same way for me. I dont hate someone cause they dont like my country, I just see them as being on the 'other' team. Make sence ?
 
You've been cocky, self absorbed, self promoting and arrogant.

You've also been insightful, helpful and encouraging to others. I have noticed in the past month that your attitude has changed considerably.

Look at your posts concerning entering the GTP weekly series. You told everybody "I deserve to be in the pro section, you know I know, everybody knows it, I don't want to run this stock EVO, just give me the ranking" Arrogant and cocky. This was the attitude that likely brought some cold shoulders towards you.

Now take a look at the conversation you had with milefile and I regarding suspension tuning in the Calsonic. Openly helpful and offering encouragment.

Your initial introduction and attitude turned off a number of people. When engaging in a debate, you would regress to "Let's bring it to the track" knowing full well, that you have a great skill and would trounce anyone who dared try. Lately, you've been changing more towards "Ok, your opinion is different than mine, but you've thought through info to back-up your ideas. I'll accept that." Much better.

I'll note that you have improved considreably, and it will be a continuation of the adjustment in your attitude to turn those original people you offended around in thier opinion of you. It's already begun from what I've seen.

I'm for one, glad your here.

Hope this helps.

AO
 
It makes sense, but I think you should refrain from judgment if you know ít's based on prejudism.
 
DA,.... thanx for that.

I look back on my enterence in the community with shame. I think I was looking for some kind of acceptance, when all I had to do was play by the rules. I've never been able to completely narrow down that portion of my personallity, I think it has something to do with proving stuff to myself, when in actuallity, I was being cocky and proving myself to be an ass. Subconciously, I've always been in search of recognition, which is very selfish of me. I think is has to do with always trying to prove myself to my father (who left us when I was 5). I used to bust my ass in sports, just to make HIM happy, the hole time, never making myself happy. And unfortunately, that determination rolled over into my personallity and made me, as you said, extremely cocky.

But, lately, as more people stated there discontent with my actions here, I began to realize that I was the one being the pompous ass, and not them. It's a great relief to hear that you think I've been on the incline as of lately, I have realized some of my faults and have really made a concious effort to fix that. Thanx for your reply 👍


@ Snoop - is my attitude concerrning anti-americansm a prejudice one? and if so,.... what would be a better perspective to take?
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer

@ Snoop - is my attitude concerrning anti-americansm a prejudice one? and if so,.... what would be a better perspective to take?

I think it is. A better perspective to take would be to view criticisim towards the US objectively, and you shouldn't be afraid to question your own country (or your own team, club, school, ...).
 
yes,... your right,... it is quite narrow minded of me to take that perspective.

Everyday I'm on the net, I learn a little bit more about how to interpret text, rather than fly off the handle for inapplicable reasons. I can truley say I've been looking forward to something like this, but never knew how to do it. up until just a while ago, I just had to learn how to do it while reading text, instead of assumeing what peoples intentions were. Now I realize that putting myself in the shoes of other may be a real idea, rather than just an expression. I will make a concious effort to do that in future situations. Thanx for your reply, it has opened a new door in that aspect for me 👍
 
Ok all,. I'm off for the evening,... thanx to those who have helped so far,.... I hope to view more responces tomorrow 👍

Good luck racing :cool:
brian
 
I find it very difficult sometimes how to 'read' what others are posting. . . Sometimes I gotta go through it 2 or 3 times before I make a determined reply to what was written. . . If I am verbally attacked I normally will counter it putting more and more rash feelings between whomever is invovled. I don't think that is a 100% justified, but there are some situation where it is acceptable. If someone went ahead and said anything about my friends, family, significant other, whatever you have. . . I will not stand for that. Make a comment about me and I am more likely to just write the person off now.

Another thing I find very interesting when it comes to post are like you said RER,
I learn a little bit more about how to interpret text
. This is a very hard thing to do and some people need to make more of an effort to do this. . . well not actually do this, but more along the lines of trying to understand different perspectives. I am totally not a poster child for this, if anything, a total opposite, but having inclination of better oneself is important to me. This right here is a perfect place to start. Just remember not everyone is going to get along, and not everyone is going to view everything the same, and finally we are all the same but totally different.
 
Okay I had this big post all typed up and then I hit a wrong key, my favorites folder opend and the page switched to Yahoo and I lost the whole thing.... so yeah that pissed me off.

Anyway I was saying that I've seen a huge improvement in your forum manners lately.

I was also saying something about how it takes time to familiarize yourself with communicating on a forum like this. You can compound that with the seperate issue of interpreting individuals without being able to see or hear them.

GTP seems like a pretty tight knit group compared to other places, although my exposure is limited. And of course everybody wants to feel accepted and that can take a little time. Some people are patient, some are dense, and some lash out at the discomfort of being broken-in. You did the latter. And a lot of people shot back. But I think you've noticed that nobody's been shooting at you lately.

I'm glad I don't have to inconvenience myself with despising you now. And for that, I thank you.

*sigh* I sure wish I hadn't wiped out that first post. It was better.

**I went and looked back at my first posts in the off-topic forums while writing this. How funny.

And finally, just for RER: :)
 
Originally posted by sn00pie
It makes sense, but I think you should refrain from judgment if you know ít's based on prejudism.

"Prejudice" would be the correct term - "prejudism" isn't one.

Learn English.
 
Originally posted by sn00pie
What other languages do you speak?
I speak the international language of symbols:

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Handicapped.

Actually, I'm fairly sure that's the only symbol in the language. I'm fluent.
 
Let's see.....at first I wasn't sure about you but I thought you were funny sometimes. Now....Well...I'm not ashamed you are from Mich. :D
 
Errr, i don't really mind, but yeh, you've certainly become a much better member, and i too am glad you're here. I remember my first posts, they were really stupid anyway...:lol:
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
This topic was inspired by the recently closed (probably the best idea as far as a group convo is concerned 👍 boom 👍 ) topic that miata started.

As you all may know, I've been around for a few months and have made about as many friends as I have enemies.

The enemy part has certainly not been my intent, and would appreciate some feedback, positive or negative, concerning my attitude on the forum.

I can assure you all that I wont be offended by your critisim, and look forward to hear how I can make a more positive impact on the GTP community.


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Dude just remember that your self confidence is also part of your personality and should not be confused with overconfidence. The fact that you can censure yourself and open yourself up to critisism at the risk of praise says alot for you. I'm gonna go crawl back under my rock..see ya later.
 
I think most of the bases have been hit. The cockiness and what not was one thing, but it was only elevated by what seemed your inability to let things go instead of dragging on grudges into many threads.

Anyway, not to sound like a broken record, but I'll have to agree with everyone that you've done much, much better lately, and I can't do more than simply encourage you to keep it up! :)👍
 
Originally posted by milefile
Okay I had this big post all typed up and then I hit a wrong key, my favorites folder opend and the page switched to Yahoo and I lost the whole thing.... so yeah that pissed me off.

Anyway I was saying that I've seen a huge improvement in your forum manners lately.

I was also saying something about how it takes time to familiarize yourself with communicating on a forum like this. You can compound that with the seperate issue of interpreting individuals without being able to see or hear them.

GTP seems like a pretty tight knit group compared to other places, although my exposure is limited. And of course everybody wants to feel accepted and that can take a little time. Some people are patient, some are dense, and some lash out at the discomfort of being broken-in. You did the latter. And a lot of people shot back. But I think you've noticed that nobody's been shooting at you lately.

I'm glad I don't have to inconvenience myself with despising you now. And for that, I thank you.

*sigh* I sure wish I hadn't wiped out that first post. It was better.

**I went and looked back at my first posts in the off-topic forums while writing this. How funny.

And finally, just for RER: :)

That was a very satisfying read Eric. Thanx and I'm sorry about your original post, I'm sure it was extremely insightful.

I realize that I've been beyond disrespectful to you in many of our conversations, and when I put that into perspective, I wounder what the heck coulda been going through my head. I remember, when I first came here, thinking, "Man, that milefile sure has some awesome points." To be completely honest, I think I was jealous. Though many times my points were on the right track to valid, you have always taken into consideration every word that you say, and have always been diplomatic about touchy subjects. And thats something that I need to analyze and learn how to do.

I'm real happy to have the opportunity to say these things to everyone, I've always tried to be as open as possible, and just need to corale some of my anxious thoughts, and understand that we're all on the same team.

Throughout my years, I've stressed to myself the golden rule, and it's lead me through a very satisfying life. I've always gotten along with people, reguardless of stereotypes, in r/l, and never took into consideration that the words I read here arent only words, but the hard efforts and true expressed intentions of you as individuals. I have come to grips with my stubborness, and thanx you once again for your feedback and positive motivation.
 
Originally posted by ledhed
Dude just remember that your self confidence is also part of your personality and should not be confused with overconfidence. The fact that you can censure yourself and open yourself up to critisism at the risk of praise says alot for you. I'm gonna go crawl back under my rock..see ya later.


Very well put led. You, somehow, have been there the whole trip with me, always on the positive end. I cant express enough how much I appreciate the kindness you've expressed over the months. Your so right though about the confidence dilema. It ranks right up there with cocky. I'm happy for critisim. I dont look at it like punishing myself for my actions, hearing all of it, but way more along the lines of enlightenment.

Enlightenment,...... I feel overwelmed with relief when I see all this positive feedback. Though critical, I put in all into the learning catagory of my brain and am trying to apply it as best as possible. I'm an exteremly lucky guy due to the fact that I've earned just a shred of everyones opinions, and to have the opportunity to speak to all of you like this.

Thank-you for understanding, from the bottom of my heart , all of you 👍
 
Ahhhhhhhhhh :)

I feel a lot better today :)

I really needed to get that stuff of my chest. To be completely honest, life for me lately has taken a drastic spin for the better.

The last 4 years or so have been particularly frustrating. It's been an extremely slow process, as life threw more and more curve balls my way, I slowly developed a very pesemistic attitude. The last 6 months or so, I've been at the climax of my anguish. I knew my company was runnin slow, I was frustrated with the future outlook, among a bunch of other things like living with parents and stuff like that.

But, in the last month I finally purchased a house. I thought right then that things would change. But they didnt. Working with my aunt (who I bought the house from) was a frustrating process (she is a procratinator). And all of a suddon I was realizing that the move was amplifing my distress. I kept working at staying positive, but I still felt like I was standing still.

Finally, last weekend, I moved into my new house. I've had a total of 3 nights there; and now, feeling the satisfaction of finally getting an adult life on track, and discussion with you all concerning my lastest attitude adjustments, I've attained a new perspective. I feel confident again. When I lost that confidence, it was replaced with cynicism,.... and that made me a real grouch :o (as many of you noticed).

I would like to publiclly thank everyone for putting up with me during this barage, and also want to appologize at the same time, for things I've said and ways I've lashed out,.... obviously none of you deserved it and had no way of knowing how messed up in the head I felt. You all displayed a specific amount of patince with my attitude, and I commend you for it.

This week ends an era for me,... and era of uncertainty and doubt. I'm now officially entering my adult life,... real responsiblities, real commitments, real sincerety. Thank you for stickin it out with me,... lets let the good times roll :cheers:

Good luck racing :cool:
Brian
 
Everybody the beers on me...Ican only wish I could make it happen ..you can always dream right ? Can you Imagine the bill for this crew ? ( feel free to substitute the beverage of your choice) ...It would be worth every dammmm penny.
 
Sorry, I can't really say much, I just havn't been communicating with you for that long, like I have with MF, Klos, and them...
 
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