Reliability

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The thing about American cars is that there's no guarantees on consistency. That 4-liter Jeep six-cylinder is a prime example: there's hundreds of those things that will run hundreds and hundreds of thousands of miles smoothly and without extreme work. But there's also hundreds of those things that are going to cause unbelievable problems before 100,000. Japanese cars tend to be well-liked among logical non-brand-loyal people because they're price competitive and they have guarantees of consistent reliability. The engines are simply NOT unreliable (in large part - when I write this I'm thinking of the current Civic sedan), and people know this. The problem is that more recently, American vehicles have become more and more reliable (I'm thinking 97-03 Chevrolet Malibu now), but people still identify "reliable" and "Japanese" unless they know something (and the vast majority of car buyers are uninformed know only what they've been told in the past).

The truth is, no-one can argue that for a long period, American cars were unreliable trash, as recently as ten to fifteen years ago - it's going to take America still more time to recover from that.
 
Monster7
The moral of the story is.... A Buick will break down on you within' 2 years, but an Integra will not?
Ahem! Our '93 Roadmaster runs like the day it was built. Then again cop cars are built to last over the years. He probably had a W-body :lol:
 
Blazin, have you ever driven anything other than a Ford or a Mazda and if so, how reliable was it? M5, you said that some of the 2004 model American cars have incredible reliability. Can you name a few?

You know, I'm going to trust Blazin about his girlfriend's Ford. He says that it's been through a lot and keeps running like new. He also said that it needed a few parts but still works just fine. Now, how about reliable cars that aren't American or Japanese? How are the Vauxhalls, Mercedes-Benz, BMWs, Holdens, Protons, and such?
 
M5, you said that some of the 2004 model American cars have incredible reliability. Can you name a few?

I think I was talking about quality, but I don't remember. Even so:

- Chevrolet Trailblazer
- GMC Envoy
- Chevrolet Malibu
- Ford Explorer
- Mercury Mountaineer
- Ford Escape
- Chevrolet Impala
- Buick Regal
- Buick Park Avenue
 
JohnBM01
Blazin, have you ever driven anything other than a Ford or a Mazda and if so, how reliable was it? M5, you said that some of the 2004 model American cars have incredible reliability. Can you name a few?

You know, I'm going to trust Blazin about his girlfriend's Ford. He says that it's been through a lot and keeps running like new. He also said that it needed a few parts but still works just fine. Now, how about reliable cars that aren't American or Japanese? How are the Vauxhalls, Mercedes-Benz, BMWs, Holdens, Protons, and such?
What is a Proton? (excuse me if it sounds noob)
 
Proton is a Malaysian car company, it shares a lot of Mitsubishi parts especially (the Lancer/Mirage coupes, sedans, and hatchbacks) from the mid '90's. Proton is not available in north America (even in Mexico).
 
Proton is a Malaysian car company, it shares a lot of Mitsubishi parts especially (the Lancer/Mirage coupes, sedans, and hatchbacks) from the mid '90's

That's understatement of the week. The truth is Proton is a Malaysian company (and the owner of Lotus) whose product line consists mainly of vehicles cancelled by Mitsubishi in about 1994. And it's not as if Mitsubishi is exactly the most technologically-advanced brand on the market. So Proton is considered a joke, except in its home country of Malaysia where imports are taxed at rates such that Proton becomes the best choice on the market.
 
^Well duh, in UK and in the Philippines, Proton's are considered as a joke, Best choice indeed.

But Proton is doing a great job of handling the Lotus division. Great job on the Elise!!
 
Hah...Proton.

Quite a disgrace actually. The most unreliable cars in Malaysia.
But if you're in UK, Aus, Protons are okay cars. Engines last(japanese engines), quite good handling(got help from lotus) and cheap(except AUS).

Reason is Proton practices double standards where better quality cars are exported and try to ave costs on domestic models.

Duh, I would buy a proton persona(wira) only because it can be converted into a EVO.
Forget about the Impian and Gen.2
 
TsLeng
But if you're in UK, Aus, Protons are okay cars. Engines last(japanese engines), quite good handling(got help from lotus) and cheap(except AUS).

Nothings cheap here. :(
 
Nothing is cheap??? You must be joking.

Wanna know how much we pay for a camry 2L over here? Its about US$42K.

Even Protons are not cheap(eventhough they are the cheapest). A waja 1.6 will cost US$17K. Blood suckers....
 
If I am not mistaken, Proton also makes motorcycles. How reliable are they? Only way I heard of them is because they are eyeing either... I want to say MotoGP, but I'm not sure.

But any more talk on reliability (any car or company in the world)? That's why you can reply about it. So let us have it.
 
Proton doesn't make motocycles. The just sponser.
But recently, Proton bought MV Agusta so maybe in the future.

Proton does make some nice bicycles though.
 
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