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Message: [QUOTE="Jtheripper, post: 13557693, member: 303017"] Well it's a must have for me, the only bike game that has the rider helmet pov with hanging out side to side movement, AND/BUT that doesn't mess up my lining up my line. Plus, at least it has pretty good grip feel, which ride has just about zero so.. Edit: and has some mechanical feel to it much more than ride, that you're sitting on a mechanical vehicle that reacts, with sound, vibration, feel feedback of many things. A.i in tt1,2 and in demo of rims was already far better than in ride. Tracks are cool. Track detail is nicer. Im glad it was made, just wish they would continue with it, support and dev more content etc. Too bad the demo was time limited. [/QUOTE]