Road Cars Which Double as Race Cars

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I couldn't find any thread on this. I was wondering if anybody has a list of road cars on GT6 which have also been used as race cars. Take the Ferrari 458 Italia as an example. It has been raced in various GT categories over the years but it can be bought on Gran Turismo as a road car, and can effectively be used as a race car once all of the modifications have been added.
 
I don't know, but I will use this opportunity to say... I miss performing the racing modification. Something about buying RM models just isn't the same.
 
I don't know, but I will use this opportunity to say... I miss performing the racing modification. Something about buying RM models just isn't the same.
They are in GT6 but you have to buy it as a separate car.
 
Take the Ferrari 458 Italia as an example. It has been raced in various GT categories over the years but it can be bought on Gran Turismo as a road car, and can effectively be used as a race car once all of the modifications have been added.

Can it? Isn't it still classed as a "normal" car?
 
They are in GT6 but you have to buy it as a separate car.
That's what he said:
I don't know, but I will use this opportunity to say... I miss performing the racing modification. Something about buying RM models just isn't the same.
 
Go to @Ridox2JZGTE's garage, he's got some great GT replicas or as near as damn it for these cars. His 458 variants are top draw.

His garage is the 'go to' place for all sorts of replicas, he puts so much work in to get as close to the real thing, even when the game doesn't really allow it. This garage is a must.
 
Go to @Ridox2JZGTE's garage, he's got some great GT replicas or as near as damn it for these cars. His 458 variants are top draw.

His garage is the 'go to' place for all sorts of replicas, he puts so much work in to get as close to the real thing, even when the game doesn't really allow it. This garage is a must.

I couldn't find any thread on this. I was wondering if anybody has a list of road cars on GT6 which have also been used as race cars. Take the Ferrari 458 Italia as an example. It has been raced in various GT categories over the years but it can be bought on Gran Turismo as a road car, and can effectively be used as a race car once all of the modifications have been added.

Most of the road cars fitted with SS or RH tire are replica of race cars, they are not 100% race car per se, but they are tuned to be raced with mandatory body rigidity, stiff suspension, effective LSD and race oriented gear ratios based on real life ratios. Just some examples of well reviewed GT3 cars, some of them won Tune of The Week on GTP when it was still running.

Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 Replica ( Base Model )

Tuned to replicate Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 570PP ( Base Model )
Sports Soft to Racing Hard
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CAR : Ferrari 458 Italia '09
Tire : Sports Soft to Racing Hard


Specs
Horsepower: 543 HP at 9100 RPM
Torque : 406.5 ft-lb at 6000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 94.5%
Weight: 1247 kg
Ballast : 30 kg
Ballast Position : 44
Weight Distribution : 42 / 58 - as in real life spec
Performance Points: 570

GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD ) - MANDATORY as the real 458 GT3 has welded roll cage and chassis reinforcements, as well necessary for racing tire fitment.
Aero Kit Type A
Rear Wing - Generic Wing Type B OR
Custom Rear Wing :
Wing Mount Standard Type D
Wing Large Type B
Winglets Type C
Height +10 and Width +32
Wheels : Standard Size OZ Racing Superfogiata / BBS LM-R / ENKEI RS05RR / RAYS 57Xtreme in Light Red Matte or Dark Grey or Black or Silver
Car Paint : Rosso Corsa


Tuning Parts Installed :
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Triple Plate Clutch
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Racing Brakes Kit
Weigh Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood ( Body Color )
Window Weight Reduction


Suspension -INTRAX BLACK TITAN ARC 4 Way Damper with EIBACH ERS Springs
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 77 77
Spring Rate: 16.67 11.49
Dampers (Compression): 5 8
Dampers (Extension): 6 8
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.2 0.2
Toe Angle: -0.07 0.07

Suspension -INTRAX BLACK TITAN ARC 4 Way Damper with EIBACH ERS Springs -Medium Camber
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 87 87
Spring Rate: 16.67 13.10
Dampers (Compression): 6 8
Dampers (Extension): 7 8
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 2.2 1.5
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.15

Alternate Toe for more stability :
Toe Angle: 0.15 0.45

Toe for better turn in
Toe Angle: -0.15 0.25



LSD - 2 Way Ferrari E-Differential
Initial Torque : 28
Acceleration Sensitivity: 45
Braking Sensitivity: 45


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - HEWLAND Racing Sequential 6 Speed with Homologated ratios
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 5.700
Set Auto Max Speed at 250kmh / 155mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 2.846
2nd 2.235
3rd 1.765
4th 1.474
5th 1.238
6th 1.037
7th 0.898 ( IGNORE THIS )
Set Final : 3.889 ( Adjust to track if necessary, for example Bathurst works great on 3.725 )


AERO
FRONT : 100 ( FIXED )
REAR : 220 ( MAX )


Brake Balance:
5/3 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 4/3, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 6/4 for ABS 1 or 1 click higher at the front.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 6/4 brake balance as starting point.

Notes :
It all started with a message from a fellow member Danbojte :) Then I saw the red car in action at the track ( a picture of it :lol: ) and I realized I have the car in the garage, sitting there in stock form with over 200km from lapping Bathurst.

The Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 was born :D It's a loosely based on real life car, not a full replica so to speak, as detailed information are hard to find, but I do have some of the most important information at hand. I spent a good hour or so to find the needed information, and tuning/testing around 2 hours :)

First is power and weight, there are many level of power and weight for this car, due to various competition rules and balancing purposes. This build is a base model, a middle ground if you want to call it. Power is at 550CV or 543HP with 550Nm/405lb-ft of torque and 2750lbs or 1247kg. To achieve the torque, I have to use isometric exhaust manifold to bring the torque up at 406.5 :D

I scoured the net for technical information of 458 GT3, I found some that I used here.

Suspension is based on INTRAX Black Titan ARC ( Anti Roll Control ) 4 Way Damper, a great damper kit that received great praise when tested on a 458 GT3 at Spa Francorchamps. Springs are EIBACH ERS, with a set of 3 options front and back :
Front
120-60-280 N/mm
120-60-300 N/mm - Installed
120-60-320 N/mm
Rear
170-60-180 N/mm
170-60-200 N/mm - Installed
170-60-220 N/mm

As these springs rate are way too high and not available in GT6, I used the middle range ratio 300/200 and adapt it on GT6, the front are 1.5 times harder than rear. I used 16.67kg front and 11.49kg rear and it works so well. With damper setup to maintain excellent traction in all conditions, entry, mid corner, or exits, you name it, this 458 GT3 does it well.

For transmission, the real car uses HEWLAND 6 speed gearbox, I managed to get rare information on the homologated gearing. Not sure if the final is fixed in real life, but in GT6 you are free to lower the final for higher top speed. The homologated gearing is setup to take advantage of the 458 GT3 engine peak power and torque, shift point is at 8700rpm ( 1st shift light ) and usable range from 7500-9000rpm. Again, real life spec works wonder in GT6, spot on !! Ignore the 7th gear for the sake of authenticity, if you find the car hitting the limiter on 6th, lower the final, I would recommend 3.725 for Bathurst ( 310+kmh top speed at conrod )

LSD, the real Ferrari 458 uses E-Diff, I read that it uses 2 way with capability to reduce locking rate under braking :eek: So, I fine tuned the LSD in GT6, using high preload commonly used on racing cars, and high locking rate on accel and brake. The value has been optimzed, a click up or down of value would give substantial changes :) Higher gives better traction and response at a cost of tightness, while lower will give more freedom of movement. I set both at 45, this is perfect for most situation. You can fine tune the 458 GT3 behavior just by using LSD - rough guide :
Static initial/preload at 28.
accel 48 / brake 45 ( neutral entry, very tight mid corner to exit )
accel 47 / brake 45 ( neutral entry, tight mid corner to exit )
accel 46 / brake 45 ( neutral entry, moderate mid corner to exit )
----accel 45 / brake 45 ( neutral all around - used on the tune )
accel 45 / brake 48 ( very tight entry, neutral mid corner to exit )
accel 44 / brake 44 ( slightly loose entry, slightly loose mid corner to exit ) - running lower will make the car more loose.

The tuning and testing process was done at Tsukuba, Brands Hatch GP, Silverstone GP, and Bathurst.
This base model managed an easy 2:04.9xx at Bathurst during testing, 53.1s at Tsukuba, 1:24s at Brands Hatch GP, and 2:01s at Silverstone GP :D

This Ferrari 458 GT3 is very quick at 570PP, with it's deficit in aero/down force, it excels in mechanical grip, balance, traction and acceleration even on higher speed region :D Red makes it even faster :lol:


ENJOY :cheers:


Update : Added optional custom rear wing + wheels selection and detailed spring rate value under notes.
UPDATE : 1.09 Added alternate suspension setup with medium camber and 2 optional toe settings, credits to @ColinH96 for feedback.


McLaren MP4-12C GT3 Base Model Replica
Tuned to replicate McLaren MP4-12C GT3 Base Model version
Sports Soft to Racing Hard
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CAR : McLaren MP4-12C '10
Tire : Sports Soft to Racing Hard


Specs
Horsepower: 494 HP or 500+ PS at 6400 RPM
Torque : 465.0 ft-lb at 3000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 82.3%
Weight: 1240 kg
Ballast : 27 kg
Ballast Position : 36
Weight Distribution : 43 / 57
Performance Points: 565


GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD ) - MANDATORY as the real MP4-12C has 9 point roll cage and chassis reinforcements, as well necessary for racing tire fitment.
Custom Rear Wing :
Wing Mount Large Standard Type F
Wing Large Type B
Winglets Type A
Height +9 and Width +11
Wheels : Standard Size -- BBS RE-MG or BBS LM-R or BLITZ BRW Profile 08 or ENKEI RC-T4 or ENKEI RP03 TypeRC or ENKEI RS05RR or RAYS TE37SL or RAYS VR.G2 painted in Black ( Matte or Solid )
Car Paint : Papaya Orange or Sunburst Yellow or White or Black ( Matte )


Tuning Parts Installed :
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Racing Brakes Kit
Weigh Reduction Stage 1
Carbon Hood ( Body Color )
Window Weight Reduction


Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs and DSSV Damper ( LOW Camber )
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 55 55
Spring Rate: 14.00 20.00
Dampers (Compression): 7 5
Dampers (Extension): 8 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.2 0.2 ( use zero camber all around for max grip )
Toe Angle: -0.08 0.08

Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs and DSSV Damper ( MEDIUM Camber )
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 55 55
Spring Rate: 14.00 20.00
Dampers (Compression): 7 5
Dampers (Extension): 8 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 1.0 1.4
Toe Angle: -0.12 0.24

Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs and DSSV Damper ( HIGH Camber )
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 55 55
Spring Rate: 14.00 20.00
Dampers (Compression): 7 5
Dampers (Extension): 8 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 2.2 3.0
Toe Angle: -0.16 0.32


LSD - 1.5 Way
Initial Torque : 20
Acceleration Sensitivity: 35
Braking Sensitivity: 15


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Ricardo or Xtrac 6 Speed
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 4.930
Set Auto Max Speed at 280kmh / 174mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.170
2nd 2.071
3rd 1.647
4th 1.350
5th 1.143
6th 1.000
7th 0.661 ( IGNORE this when driving for authenticity )
Set Final : 3.600 ( adjust according to track, 3.600 final is good for 190mph/300+kmh top speed )

AERO
REAR : 100 ( MAX )


Brake Balance:
4/3 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 4/3, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 5/4 for ABS 1.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/4 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :


The McLaren is one of the most fun replica I ever built :)

This base GT3 replica has only 500PS and 1240kg, but it's performance is on par with proper GT3 racing cars on similar power.

I provided 3 different sets of camber this time, feel free to try all of them, and pick the one that gives the best feel on the track. Everything from spring rate, damper and ARB has been tuned to work with all 3 camber sets, toe also tailored to suit on each camber setup.

LSD is 1.5 way this time to make the car easier to push with camber setup.

For gearing, I have no good information on the ratio, some sites mention Ricardo 6 speed, others mention Xtrac 6 Speed, so I decided to use 416 Xtrac ratio, and it worked quite well on the car, giving ample top speed and acceleration. The gear can be used for engine braking effectively for stabilizing the car under heavy braking or just to help the nose pointed on apex in medium and low speed corners. Never fear to shift down on 1st and 2nd to help the car change direction.

I tuned/tested at Silverstone GP, Bathurst and Nordschleife this time. Even with High Camber setup, the MP4-12C GT3 is capable of 2:02s lap at Silverstone GP on RH tire.

The camber setup has been tested on RH tire only, take your own risk using it on SS tire :D

ENJOY :cheers:



MATECH Ford GT GT3 Base Model Replica
Tuned to replicate Matech Ford GT GT3 Base Model version
Sports Soft to Racing Hard
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CAR : Ford GT '06
Tire : Sports Soft to Racing Hard


Specs
Horsepower: 550 HP at 5800 RPM
Torque : 520.5 ft-lb at 4300 RPM
Power Limiter at : 92%
Weight: 1200 kg
Ballast : 11 kg
Ballast Position : 19
Weight Distribution : 47 / 53
Performance Points: 585


Specs - 500HP version
Horsepower: 500 HP at 7200 RPM
Torque : 520.5 ft-lb at 4300 RPM
Power Limiter at : 83.8%
Weight: 1200 kg
Ballast : 11 kg
Ballast Position : 19
Weight Distribution : 47 / 53
Performance Points: 574

GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD ) - MANDATORY as the real Ford GT GT3 has roll cage and chassis reinforcements, as well necessary for racing tire fitment.
Aero Kits Type A
Custom Rear Wing :
Wing Mount Large Standard Type C
Wing Large Type A
Winglets Type A
Height +6 and Width +20
Wheels : Standard Size -- BBS LM-R or OZ Racing Superfogiata or ENKEI RS05RR or RAYS TE37SL or RAYS 57Xtreme painted in Silver
Car Paint : White with Black Stripe or Dark Blue


Tuning Parts Installed :
Racing Exhaust
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Fully Customizable Suspension
Racing Brakes Kit
Weigh Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood ( Body Color )
Window Weight Reduction




Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs with 2 Way Bilstein Damper ( LOW Camber )
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 70 70
Spring Rate: 15.00 20.20
Dampers (Compression): 6 4
Dampers (Extension): 7 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 0.2 0.2 ( use zero camber all around for max grip )
Toe Angle: -0.08 0.08

Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs with 2 Way Bilstein Damper ( MEDIUM Camber )
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 70 70
Spring Rate: 15.00 20.20
Dampers (Compression): 6 4
Dampers (Extension): 7 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 1.0 1.4
Toe Angle: -0.12 0.16

Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs with 2 Way Bilstein Damper ( HIGH Camber )
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 70 70
Spring Rate: 15.00 20.20
Dampers (Compression): 6 4
Dampers (Extension): 7 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 2.0 2.8
Toe Angle: -0.16 0.24

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LSD - 2 Way Helical LSD
Initial Torque : 22
Acceleration Sensitivity: 32
Braking Sensitivity: 32


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Hewland 6 Speed Sequential
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 4.200
Set Auto Max Speed at 250kmh / 155mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.121
2nd 2.235
3rd 1.764
4th 1.473
5th 1.232
6th 1.037
Set Final : 3.000 ( adjust according to track )

AERO
REAR : 220 ( MAX )


Brake Balance:
4/5 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/3, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 5/6 for ABS 1.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/6 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :


The MATECH Ford GT GT3 was famous back in 2007 and 2008.

This replica is based on the car. First of all, I can't get the weight of the real car at 1180kg, so I decided to use 1200kg and maintain the stock weight distribution at 47/53.

Power is at 550HP, this time I also provided the low power version, suitable for Blancpain spec of sort at 500HP.

Suspension of the real car was based on Eibach springs and 2 way Bilstein racing damper. I used high spring rate at 15kg/mm front and 20.20kg/mm rear. This gives very good stability at smooth tracks, with damper set on softer side to maintain composure on bumpy tracks and keep the rear stable. The balance is easily shifted with trail braking and sharp steering, giving good turn in and stable directional changes.


I have provided 3 sets of camber setup, each with tailored toe values. Try them all, use which one you prefer.

LSD is 2 way, with medium preload and high accel + braking. For gearing, the real car has Hewland 6 speed sequential, I used the same ratio fitted on the Ferrari 458 Italia GT3, and it works so well, and gives the ability to use the lower gears to maintain speed and stability through low and medium speed corners. Very useful on esses like at Suzuka. The car also uses Tilton Triple Plate clutch, so I installed triple plate clutch on this build.

The MATECH Ford GT GT3 was tuned and tested at Silverstone GP, Bathurst, Suzuka and Brands Hatch GP.

During testing, with 500HP low power and camber setup, it was capable of 2:02s at Silverstone GP and 1:59s at Suzuka on RH tire :eek:

ENJOY :cheers:





SaReNi United / Reiter Engineering
Chevrolet Camaro SS '10 GT3 BOSS YACO Racing ( powered by Jochen Schweizer )
ADAC GT Masters 2012 ( Max Power Flat Floor Version )

Tuned to replicate Camaro GT3 YACO Racing ( Reiter Engineering )
Sports Soft to Racing Hard
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CAR : Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
Tire : Sports Soft to Racing Hard


Specs
Horsepower: 641 HP / 650PS at 6300 RPM
Torque : 589.3 ft-lb at 5300 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1310 kg
Ballast : 9 kg
Ballast Position : -50
Weight Distribution : 48 / 52
Performance Points: 613


GT AUTO
Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD ) - Mandatory
Aero Kits Type C
Flat Floors
Custom Rear Wing :
Wing Mount Type A
Wing Large Type B
Winglets Type C
Height +2 and Width +38
Wheels : Standard Size ENKEI RC-T4 or OZ Racing Superfogiata or OZ Racing Ultraleggera or GT-Ab11 in Black or Dark Bronze
Car Paint : Black, White or Silver ( Plain - choose either of those when buying ) - repainting will put big stripes on the car.


Tuning Parts Installed :
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Computer
Racing Exhaust
Catalytic Converter Sports
Supercharger
Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive Shaft
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weigh Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood ( Body Color )
Window Weight Reduction
Racing Brakes Kit



Suspension - GT3 Reiter Engineering Suspension System with Ohlins TTX Racing Springs and Damper
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 80 80
Spring Rate: 13.25 15.25
Dampers (Compression): 6 7
Dampers (Extension): 6 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 7 6
Camber Angle: 0.2 0.2 ( use zero camber all around for max grip )
Toe Angle: -0.07 0.07




LSD - 2 Way LSD High Preload
Initial Torque : 33
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - HOLINGER Speed Shift Homologated Ratio with Low Final
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 4.965
Set Auto Max Speed at 210kmh / 130mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 2.846
2nd 2.235
3rd 1.764
4th 1.473
5th 1.232
6th 1.037
Set Final : 3.488


AERO:
REAR : 20 ( MAX )


Brake Balance:
4/4 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 4/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 5/5 for ABS 1 or 1 click higher at the rear.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 4/4 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :
The Camaro GT3 had a rough start back in 2012, the first European team from Germany who used the car, YACO Racing Team struggled to be competitive, spending most of their racing time at the back of the pack, several seconds off pace in lap time.

But, that's not the reason for not making this replica :D This year, 2014, the Camaro GT3 will debut again in Europe, with better brakes and bigger wheels as well as many aero improvements.

This build is trying to replicate the full power spec of the Camaro GT3 built by SaReNi United / Reiter Engineering. The car has 650PS and over 800Nm of torque, with 1310kg of weight. I can't replicate the car weight distribution at 55/45, so I used the closest I can get.

I installed flat floor on this build, a different approach to replica, this time I tried to get closer cornering speed of GT3 race car, and sacrificed top speed as well as acceleration. But, I do gain better traction, better stability, easier to push on the limit and ultimately more realistic top speed, able to replicate real life top speed of 279kmh at Monza with chicane - similar to real life 2014 test laps. There are subtle differences in balance compared to non flat floor, so it might takes time to get used to. The flat floor also added PP to 613, quite an increase from 582 :eek:

Suspension has been tuned with added aero downforce from flat floor in mind, damper, ARB and spring rate are optimized for balance of traction and stability on racing hard tire. I decided to use higher rear spring rate to make the car more willing to rotate while very controllable. There might be slight push/understeer, but it's more for safety cushion, so you know you are reaching over the limit and the real car also has unique understeer traits.

LSD is 2 way as usual for this type of car ( racing tire ), I tuned the preload pretty high to avoid sudden changes in grip between rear tires. While high locking rate make sure traction are even near the limit.

For gearing, I used previous replica GT3 homologated gearing and adapted for this car, as I couldn't find detailed info on Camaro GT3 homologation gearing. Final has been setup for good launch on 1st gear, while having good top speed and acceleration throughout the gears. I also aimed at replicating real life top speed.

I tuned and tested at Tsukuba, Brands Hatch GP, Monza with chicane, Bathurst, Silverstone GP, Nurburgring GP/F, Nurburgring GP/D, and Fuji Speedway F.

It was capable of easy 2:03s at Bathurst :eek:, and should be among the top pack of GT3 cars.

For reference : The BOSS YACO Racing Camaro GT3 managed to a best lap of 2:00.564 at Nurburgring GP/F in 2012, and 1:29.039 at Nurburgring GP/D, also on 2012 ADAC GT. Feel free to aim for these lap times :D



ENJOY :cheers:

I also have GT4 cars, visit my garage for more replicas :P
 
I can't believe I've yet to do the Matech!, seeing as I stare at a Simil-R 1:24 scale one in my collection everyday.

I've got all the others though, GT4 included. Woot!
 
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They are in GT6 but you have to buy it as a separate car.

Yeah, that's basically what I said.

EDIT: Sorry, I see Mini Stiggy has already pointed that out.
 
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