Ronn Motor Company Scorpion

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Introducing the Scorpion: A 40 mpg, Hydrogen-Powered True Supercar


The Ronn Motor Company Scorpion, for which Ronn Motor Company is now taking orders, makes some bold new claims that are shaking up the sports car world.

The Scorpion, the company says, will produce 450 horsepower by way of a twin turbocharged Acura TL-sourced VTEC V6, coupled with a Ronn Motor Company proprietary system that creates 130 octane hydrogen fuel on the fly using electrical energy produced by the car’s powertrain. Ronn claims the Scorpion will achieve 40 mpg highway by mixing the hydrogen fuel with gasoline at a variable ratio based on needs.

The Ronn Motor Company Scorpion is a beautiful, lightweight hydrogen power supercar, with styling unlike anything else on the market today. Whether or not these hydrogen-powered sports cars will be on the road in mass numbers any time soon is another story, but the Ronn Scorpion is certainly generating a lot of buzz in the automotive world.

Has Ronn Motor Company found a solution to the hybrid performance question? Sports car enthusiasts don’t buy the Toyota Prius, and wouldn’t drive one if you paid them. The Scorpion looks to have the guts to appeal to this market, and the styling to find its way onto the pages of wall calendars everywhere.

Ronn is taking orders for the Scorpion now, so start saving your nickels and dimes. The Scorpion hydrogen supercar car costs $150,000, and you will need to put up $50,000 upfront.
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I think that it is pretty cool car, and 40 MPGs in a "super car" is impressive. I like the whole technology and performance part of the car, but I am still a little unsure about the looks, the rear looks a little bit weird (let me know if you want more pictures.) But, they are definitely right about how different it looks compared to everything else out on the market. What do you guys think about it.
(Sorry about the picture size.)
 
Interesting looking car. Are there any other angles of it? I wonder if it'll live up to what they expect of it.
 
Resize the picture so it doesn't kill people's computers.
 
Party poopers

I hope this is the right car

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Looks like it. Damn, that is a really pretty car. If I had 150k I'd totally buy that. Or the Tesla Roadster. Both are works of art. I wish regular car designers would take note of what other more environmentally conscious companies do and follow in their footsteps.
 
Meh, the headlights and the taillights needs to go, makes the car more uglier. :yuck: But a 40mpg super car, holy :censored;! This and the Tesla Roadster really make an impression as a "environmental friendly" supercars. 👍 Now if only Toyota hurried up with the FH-TS..... :D
 
I'm on the "Wait-and-see" list. 40 mpg with an on-board hydrogen generator? Really? I don't think so. A bunch of supercapacitors would be a better use of stored-up electricity from power-regeneration...

But if they're using that hydrogen as an octane booster to get around the engine's limitations in regards to "lean-burn" mode (which could probably produce that 40 mpg), then it's possible.

Hmmm... they're claiming a 40/60 hydrogen/fuel mix... but that you only need to refill the 11-liter water tank every 1600 miles? I'm not claiming vaporware yet, but I'll have to see this one to believe it.

And looking at autoblog-green, and seeing the system that claims to provide this fuel economy... my spider-sense is starting to go into overdrive... Hydrorunner? Derh?

http://www.hydrorunner.com/

Until I actually see such a system provide anything more than extra load on the alternator, I'm unconvinced. Hell, even pure water injection would be more useful.
 
I'd rather have something that looks more like a Tesla that's for sure... Still, it is impressive.
 
I'd like to hear more about this hydrogen-producing system. Actually, more engineering details in general. I mean, it seems interesting enough: looks pretty good from those (ahem) renders. I've gotta see a runner, though.
 
I like the rear end. The front looks too mid-90s to me.

I'm predicting this thing will end up being a flop and they won't get it to run or something. It's a cool idea but I'm not so sure this will ever get off the drawing board computer screen.
 
The idea, actually of octane-boosting with Hydrogen, is valid. But you'll need to ensure a steady supply of hydrogen to do this practically.

Ensuring a steady supply requires a high pressure hydrogen rail... especially if the octane boost is being used to keep the engine from blowing up under boost.

That's a big problem with water/meth injection on turbo cars... you're on the drag strip, you're boosting 20 psi with an insane amount of timing advance (which meth injection makes possible) and you run low on meth all of a sudden. The engine will blow up so quickly you won't have time to wonder about any "funny noises".

I just don't trust any on-board generating systems enough to supply a steady stream of hydrogen. There are people who swear by it, but I haven't seen any "control" tests with a good dyno, wideband AFR and EGT sensors to show how big a flow and how big a contribution hydrogen can give.
 
A constant supply of hydrogen would be possible as long as the engine continually produces it as it runs. However, you run into some serious practicality issues. Energy used from the engine to produce the hydrogen is energy lost, and putting that hydrogen back into the combustion cycle will not equal the energy lost producing the hydrogen. That's simple physics. You cannot magically create energy.

The only solution would be to have a system like the Volt where when the engine is under light load it'll put out a little more power than necessary to produce hydrogen and that hydrogen would then be used to lighten the load on the engine under acceleration.

As for the engine blowing up after a loss of injection, could a little software changes fix that problem? Because the car is designed to run like this every day, perhaps the engineers could design a system where timing and whatever automatically adjusts for a lack of hydrogen injection to avoid that problem.
 
Yes, it can be built in. I'm trying to work such a trigger right now for my soon-to-be-installed LPG system. This'll allow me to run a manure-load of timing advance on LPG and switch back to standard timing when I go back to pump gas. This is to minimize the power loss and added fuel consumption when running on LPG.

But it's illustrative of the problem. At low loads and partial throttle loads, using electrical energy generated by the alternator to produce enough hydrogen to act as an effective octane booster may work, but at full throttle, to produce enough hydrogen to keep detonation at bay on that "450 hp" engine may be a problem, due to the volume required... Hydrorunner claims a 30-50% volume, and that's a huge amount of hydrogen to generate on the spot. You'd still need onboard storage to ensure you don't suddenly run short.

I'd really like to see "proof-of-concept" of this. Fleet managers and private owners swear by hydrogen injection, but I have yet to see control tests. I'm not claiming the effect is pure placebo... no it isn't... hydrogen does work as octane boost... but then, even water injection yields benefits for diesel engines. And that has been proven on the dyno and in testing. Without examining these hydrogen systems up-close, it's hard to tell whether they're pure hydrogen and oxygen (laughably called HHO by some hydrogen-system frauds) or whether there's some water vapor in the injection that's providing the bulk of the benefits.
 
That is a beautiful car. I hate it when people dissect cars. Im sure that it could look better with different headlights or a newer looking front end, but you know what, Its a great looking car as is. And as far as practicality, well it excels in that essence as well. Im sold.
 

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