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Today, as my friend was coming home from school, an Accord in front of him slowed to make a turn. He stops, and then behind him, a guy in a Dodge Durango drives across an entire intersection, drives about 50 feet down the steet my friend was stopped on, brakes about 5 feet before the car, and smashed into the rear of my friends Miata. This causes him to rear end the Accord in front. His car is totalled, the doors don't close, the trunk or hood doesn't open, the axle is bent, the center console has wrinkles in it, and the dashboard has moved an inch or so.

The driver of the durango either did it on purpose, since my friend isn't great friends with him, or he had his eyes off the road for a good 10 sec, while accelerating. I think it's the latter.

My friend wasn't hurt, but the guy he was with hit his knees on the dashboard, and his elbow on something, which was getting more and more painful, so he will go get it checked out.

Now for the pics. I have some pics, but they are pictures of my cell phone screen, since I didn't have a real camera on hand. I may get better pictures later.

You really can't see the amount of damage that was done to the rear in these pics, but just remember that a big suv hit it going around 35mph, so although it looks fairly flat, its been pushed in around 5 inches.





 
Yeah that sucks. It was a nice color, probably rare, but I don't know my Miata's well. It sucks to see it go but good thing your friend is alright. And probably a good thing he's getting another Miata by the insurace, but that's a maybe :/
 
Dam Those SUVs. They should be dragged out of their SUVs and shot. Simply put. . . Bastiges!
 
Did he file an insurance claim? If not he should have. Poor Miata.
 
More importantly, did the police show up and record it? I'm assuming yes, but you never know sometimes.

Get the insurance worked out, and if the SUV driver's insurance is being a big pain about paying out what the car is worth, claim you've been having bad dreams and are going to see a shrink... that normally scares the crap out of insurance because mental drama can become spendy :p
 
Dang, that sucks. Mariner Blue is not rare at all... but that looks like it was a nice clean car. Lucky thing is that there are about a million of them out there. I hope he finds a nice replacement.
 
I'm so glad this wasn't me as it would have been followed by name calling and punches to the driver of the SUV. Good luck to your friend, and hopefully it all works out well.
 
Matthew Keller
Did he file an insurance claim? If not he should have. Poor Miata.
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Azuremen
More importantly, did the police show up and record it? I'm assuming yes, but you never know sometimes.

Get the insurance worked out, and if the SUV driver's insurance is being a big pain about paying out what the car is worth, claim you've been having bad dreams and are going to see a shrink... that normally scares the crap out of insurance because mental drama can become spendy :p
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Yes, the police showed up and and an insurance claim was filed. (EDIT: You can see the police car in the second pic.)

My friend takes these types of things really well. He was visibly pissed of, but no yelling or punches were made. We were making jokes about it 5 min after it happened too.👍

We already know where he can get another Miata, as we were looking at one a few days ago. Same color, and they are asking around 5 grand for it, although they would go lower.
 
I'm glad the moron decided not to run. (or couldn't.) He doesn't sound like he was paying much attention.

Was DUI involved? definitlay sounds like aggressive/reckless driving...how many charges were brought?
 
Jim Prower
I'm glad the moron decided not to run. (or couldn't.) He doesn't sound like he was paying much attention.

Was DUI involved? definitlay sounds like aggressive/reckless driving...how many charges were brought?
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The guy couldn't have run very far, his radiator was busted, and he was leaking coolant all over the road. The lady in accord seemed to know more about cars than he did, despite the fact that he is taking a auto mechanic class with me and my friend. She realized it might be a good idea to turn off the car when you have a pool of coolant under it.

No DUI was involved, but I know the guy got a reckless driving charge. I don't know about the rest though, since I left before everything was figured out.

EDIT: I've had a couple people tell me it doesn't look so bad, so I put together a list of stuff wrong that you can't see or didn't notice.

The doors don't close or open more than a couple inches
The hood and trunk don't open
The center console is wavy looking
The floorboards had begun to crumple
The dashboard is moved back an inch or so
The top doesn't close and is around 3 inches off of where it's supposed to be
The driver seat's backrest is leaning to the right and kind of twisted
The differential is sort of diagonal
The axles are bent
The driveshaft is bent
The shift knob is pressing against the side of the hole it goes through, which means the transmission is like 3 inches off of it's original place.


I'm sure theres more, I just haven't had a good look at the car yet.
 
Write-off, no question.

You said you left before everything was sorted out? Did your friend? Next time, if you are alone, stay there until the end. I've heard of people leaving after the police showed up for whatever reason, and then the driver at fault said the opposite story. Gotta be careful to avoid a big insurance mess.
 
exigeracer
Write-off, no question.

You said you left before everything was sorted out? Did your friend? Next time, if you are alone, stay there until the end. I've heard of people leaving after the police showed up for whatever reason, and then the driver at fault said the opposite story. Gotta be careful to avoid a big insurance mess.
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I wasn't involved in the crash, so it wouldn't matter if I left, but yes, my friend stayed all the way to the end. It was my friends and the woman in the accord's word over his, and he didn't try to argue, except at first when he said "Well, you stopped like an idiot!" and my friend responded "well, you smashed into the back of my car like an idiot" so after that he stayed quiet.

There was a lot of witnesses, being right next to a gas station and a body shop, and with a whole group of cars going back from the technical center I go to, so if anything goes wrong, we have a lot of back up. The officer from the school also drove up to the crash, and he knows the SUV driver isn't very skilled, since he's hit multiple cars in the parking lot alone, all out of stupidity.

EDIT: I just realized you can see the SUV in the first 2 pics to the right of the Miata, the hood is visibly bent and you can see the edge of the front bumper sticking out to the side.
 
Update: The police took a look at the skidmarks and stuff the guy in the SUV made, which were 45ft long. They did some calculations and found out the guy in the SUV was going 30mph when he his my friend, and thats after 45ft of braking.

The SUV driver didn't have a license, and the car was insured under his mom. He wasn't added as a driver in the insurance, so he wasn't insured.

They came and looked at the Miata today and said the car is "a total loss" and he'll be getting around 4,500 for the car, plus another 500 for something else. My friend is taking the momo steering wheel and project mu brakepads off, and putting the stock parts back on, but the wheels and fidanza flywheel have to stay, since they would change the value of the car.

I took more pics, so now you should be able to see the actual damage to the car. We got the top on, but as you can see its really loose in the back.

The damage on the fender in this pic is from where one of the SUV driver's friends hit him before, it was primered up to prevent rust.


Here you can see how the doors don't close, and the quarter panel starting to crumple. The metal showing is where he had pulled out a dent in class about 10 min before the car was hit.


Here you can see how the trunk had crumpled and the whole back end has been pushed in.


Another pic of the back from the other side.


Here you can see where the center console had been bent. The shifter is in neutral, so you can see how much off it is.


This is a dent the passenger seat had made when the car was hit in the rear.


This is a top view of the driver's seat, which you can see has been twisted.


This is the footwell, and the bulge on the side was made from the transmission or the car crumpling.


Here is the differential, which you can see is pointing sort of diagonal. EDIT: It's actually broken the support.


And one last overall picture


EDIT: Don't mind the big ricer wheels. Those came on the car and he already had 1,400 saved up for some 15 inch Watanabes

EDIT #2: HAHAHA, check out the window in the second pic. Russain old people FTW!
 
Hang on, this wasn't the first time? What's with these guys? What do they have against you people?

Sad to see such a nice car declared a total loss.
 
Jim Prower
Hang on, this wasn't the first time? What's with these guys? What do they have against you people?

Sad to see such a nice car declared a total loss.
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The car has been hit 2 other times by that group of friends, all of them situations that the driver had no license and wasn't yet added as a driver in the insurance plan or however it works.
 
So who are these kids? what do they have against you? Or the car?

If it's too sensitive, you may send me a P.M. I mean, It's a puzzle to me as to why a specific group of people would risk damaging their parents cars just to get a shot at you two. (and that alone steams me, that these idiots don't respect their parents' property enough.)

The police, I'm sure, have been alerted that this sort of behiavior is not limited to this incident.
 
Jim Prower
So who are these kids? what do they have against you? Or the car?

If it's too sensitive, you may send me a P.M. I mean, It's a puzzle to me as to why a specific group of people would risk damaging their parents cars just to get a shot at you two. (and that alone steams me, that these idiots don't respect their parents' property enough.)

The police, I'm sure, have been alerted that this sort of behiavior is not limited to this incident.
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This is a group of Mexican friends who never really bothered to learn the language well, despite being here for over 5 years, and are quite frankly stupid people. The frequently will act gay for no reason other than to get a laugh, and will walk around grabbing other guy's rear ends and such. This truly pisses my friend off, lots of times ending up in arguments and stuff.

They also like to joke around by making fun of people, so when my friend was fixing the dent in his car, he would walk around sort of kicking at random parts of the car, and commenting on how stupid my friend was for fixing "this POS" and how he should smash it and throw it away, also saying that my friend was a "dumbass driver" for making dents in his car, when none of them were his fault. This causes more arguing.

This has been how they were over the past years, just a group of stupid annoying people, until it came to this. My friend said he was tailgating him the entire way back to school, until he got to the intersection where the crash happened, where the SUV driver had to wait for another car to pass by, which created a gap, let him pick up speed, and hit my friends car.

This was the only crash that (we think) was intentional, the others were just due to stupid drivers behind the wheels of cars.

Today in school you could the the SUV driver could care less about what happened. He even said "You, (my friend), (the other guy in my friends car), the insurance, and the police can (any sexual act)."
 
*sigh...* Well, I would hope this would concern as a wake-up call to those guys, especially if jail time is involved. Jail is a terrible, horrible thing, but it's a good wake-up call.

I hope this leads to nothing more than the teasing and such before, and doesn't escalate to further violence.
 
Dude. Do NOT send those wheels to the scrapper with the car. I guarantee you that when the guy with the rollback shows up, as long as the car has 4 wheels on it that fit, he's not going to know or care.
 
Duke
Dude. Do NOT send those wheels to the scrapper with the car. I guarantee you that when the guy with the rollback shows up, as long as the car has 4 wheels on it that fit, he's not going to know or care.
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The car isn't being scrapped, its being sold at an auction as a parts car as the engine still runs perfectly.. He can't take off the wheels because he has no other wheels to put on there. They are cheap though. 400 bucks gets you a brand new set of 17x7.

EDIT: My friend could care less what happened to those wheels, they suck and he'd been trying to get rid of them for a while.
 
A shame, cool little car in a good color. I would not of kept my cool if that happend to me...what three times? I would of broke his arms and f'ed up his knees.

From the outside the damage doesn't look that bad...but obviously from the inside and underneath you see frame damage. Someone probably could straighten it out if they had access to that kind of equipment but it wouldn't be cheap. My condolances for your friend's loss.
 
Wow, long time no visit. It feels great to once again post in what, to my knowledge, is one of the best if not the best forums on the net.
The pictures in the previous page were of my Miata, now to be awarded to the highest bidder. Hopefully its parts will help repair another unfortunate Miata. Today I watched it being towed away to the local auction. Not much of a sight to behold, there wasn’t much to do other than stand watching and take it all in thinking to myself that this would be the last time I would ever see that car again. I’ve had the car for about a year, the plates expire three months from now. Perfect Balance explained everything there was to say about the driver and his previous encounters with my knowledge of what he believes to be a flat world where if you swim too far out at sea you would fall off the edge and die. One thing Perfect Balance didn’t mention is the fact that I actually saw the guy (both the car and his face) through my rear view mirror, he was totally aware of the situation and of the fact that I had slowed down to a complete stop. It was a good 2 seconds (maybe a little bit more) from the point I looked in the mirror (immediately after I stopped) to when he hit me. When I first saw him he had just entered the intersection, and was still accelerating, I was about 60 feet out of the intersection on the other side ahead of him so even before I had stopped he saw me slowing down yet after leaving the stop sign he continued accelerating (the rate of acceleration needed to reach a range of 30-35 mph in that given amount of space is noticeably high as I tried it myself) and waited to be 45 feet away from me to lock his wheels and hit my car. Regardless of how much experience behind the wheel you have you would know that a distance of 45 ft would not be enough to stop your car in time to avoid smashing into whatever you see stopped 46 feet ahead, not to mention the skid marks were only 45 feet in length because my car, with its brakes applied, managed to take enough momentum away from a car twice as heavy to keep it from traveling any further. The court date is May 11 and we are thinking about suing the kid’s parents (the kid’s under age). That’s pretty much it for now. I will be receiving a check from the insurance company which will be enough to get me in the driver’s seat another Miata. Being almost exactly like the old one it may fill in that empty spot both in my heart (not to be all mushy) and my parking space.
BTW, you can see me in one of the pics:dopey: and my embarrassing mother:sick: :lol:
 
Again, My heart goes out. Hope this new Eunos Roadster (NA) is as good a drive as your old one.
 
Thanks for the support, Jim Prower and also to everyone else. I will be starting out fresh with this model which I don’t mind at all, I will be able to truly call it my own. Ill try to post some pics of this new car once the title is signed off and the keys are in my hand. Many things are in store for this Roadster and as I always have since the first day I drove, driving to the best of my abilities will always be a guarantee and I guess Ill just have to deal with whatever obstacles come my way, hopefully they wont be half as bad as this situation. Thanks again everyone for all your support, its refreshing to know for a fact that there is an intelligent world outside the borders of this small city.
 
Ive finally decided to update this thread after all these months (to be honest I completely forgot). As I promised I will be posting some shots of my new car not very long after I got it, and also not very long ago shots after I got my Watanabes!:dopey:










The civic is Perfect Balance's car.
 
A special order made through takumiproject.com for 15x7 RS Watanabe F8, +21 offset, and gunmetal color. After all this time I finaly have them. The part that most excites me is that im probably the only person in the county (if not a wider area) that has Watanabes. My only disappointment is the fact that they arent around 10 lbs in weight (theyre about 14 lbs but at least I dont have to worry about damaging them), although still considered a lightweight wheel, regardless, the greater width and wider track well overcomes the negative effects of increased unsprung weight.








Rays lug nuts through aspecproducts.com



The wheels are flush, and i really mean flush. I had to bend up a inner fender braket for the wheel well cover thing, the tires would rub it if i would brake hard and go over bumbps at the same time.

If I ever get any better pics Ill try to post them up.
Enjoy the pics :)
 
beautiful man absolutely beautiful, keep us updated on what happens to those jerks that hit you
 
Nice wheels! I'm getting jealous, now. All of these nice NA8Cs around. Makes me want one of my own.
 
Thanks for the comments everyone. The guy that ran into me is still driving, weather illegally or not I dont know. But he did get his SUV repaired. I try not to look at him whenever I go by him at school, the last thing I want right now is a swollen knuckle and suspension from school. Im thinking about ordering the Toda Racing flywheel next. I actually ordered it early june but the distributors (not approved dealer of Toda) had it on "pending" until I decided to just cancel it and use the money for the tires (BF Goodridge g-force sport) once my wheels arrived (they had the order on pending for more than 2 months). I even have the clutch waiting to be installed. I think Ill just stick to an official distributor and go with aspecproducts.:)
 
👍

ot-ish--does anyone else get reminded of wannabes when they see Watanabe? :lol:

Well, those would be my preffered wheel choice. Nice car.
 
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