Seagate 1Tb expansion ssd.

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A terabyte is 1,099,511,627,776 (240) bytes, 1,024 gigabytes, or 1,048,576 megabytes.This I understand.
The 1TB storage expansion from Seagate gives you another 920GB .(GamesRadar+).This I don't.
Isn't it about time hdd/ssd manufacture's worked with the creators of OS's to have a single measurement.
 
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Manufacturers advertise their HDD and SSDs in metric units, so 1TB is 1,000 GB not 1,024 GB. Once installed, it's the OS that measures the capacity in powers of 2. There's also the overhead required for formatting, file system and boot data.

The specific answer to your query would be the latter.
 
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TL;DR to calculate the true size of a drive multiply the advertised figure by 0.931. Then you can also sometimes takes some more off for other reasons, as T12 mentioned.
 
At that price il hang fire until larger capacity are available and just delete and install games when i wanna play. Ridiculous price, microsoft have definitely got a big money spinner there, 1TB doesn’t go far and they know that, dont put a larger hdd in the machine, screw them over with expansion cards.
 
shoemaker
Ridiculous price, microsoft have definitely got a big money spinner there, 1TB doesn’t go far and they know that, dont put a larger hdd in the machine, screw them over with expansion cards.
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Lol learn how much NVMes cost then get back to us.
 
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Evidently you don't if you think Microsoft is only putting a TB in the system to force people to buy this for some extreme markup.
 
shoemaker
The difference in retail price verses production prices suggest otherwise.
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It doesn't suggest anything, even if you had any clue what those prices were.

Which you clearly don't, since you are under the impression that Microsoft (or Sony!) adding significantly more storage out of the box wouldn't have been a big deal on their end and that they simply didn't do so to force people to buy an expansion.



Let's go over this step by step to help you out:
shoemaker
Ridiculous price,
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No it's not. It's about $20 more than a mid-grade Gen IV NVMe (presumably what the expansion card is if it matches the internal speed specs of the system) of the same capacity, but in a custom form factor (which adds costs) that has the benefit of being more consumer friendly than the normal design; with the top tier bare bare drives not on the market yet but promising to be the same price or more. The only way it will be a ridiculous price is if NVMe prices start collapsing and Microsoft does nothing about the price, but the former actually has to happen first and NVMe flash memory has been a very volatile (heh) market in price fluctuations compared to stuff where the drops are fairly linear like SD cards or flash drives. COVID hasn't helped that, and more and more things using more and more flash storage onboard hasn't either.

shoemaker
microsoft have definitely got a big money spinner there,
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This isn't 20GB 360 hard drives circa 2008, so no, they don't.

shoemaker
1TB doesn’t go far and they know that,
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So does Sony, whose even more expensive internal storage solution forced them to include even less than a terabyte; and who will require top shelf Gen IV NVMe drives if you want to expand on PS4 storage that also will be several hundred dollars for the near future.

shoemaker
dont put a larger hdd in the machine,
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Since the storage included in the system is most assuredly one of the most expensive individual components this console generation (for both systems) when that hadn't been true since the original Xbox, I'm perfectly capable of understanding why Microsoft (and Sony) didn't put a larger SSD in the system even if it means people will run into a wall.

shoemaker
screw them over with expansion cards.
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That horrible price gouging of around $20. Those bastards.



Anything else? Since you obviously didn't bother to check how much NVMes cost before you commented in this thread or when you doubled down on your first post when called on it, I can only once again insist that you actually check how much decent NVMe SSDs cost before you go off about how much Microsoft is gouging people for selling a decent NVMe SSD in a custom enclosure specifically for the Xbox.
 
Tornado
It doesn't suggest anything, even if you had any clue what those prices were.

Which you clearly don't, since you are under the impression that Microsoft (or Sony!) adding significantly more storage out of the box wouldn't have been a big deal on their end and that they simply didn't do so to force people to buy an expansion.



Let's go over this step by step to help you out:

No it's not. It's about $20 more than a mid-grade Gen IV NVMe (presumably what the expansion card is if it matches the internal speed specs of the system) of the same capacity, but in a custom form factor (which adds costs) that has the benefit of being more consumer friendly than the normal design; with the top tier bare bare drives not on the market yet but promising to be the same price or more. The only way it will be a ridiculous price is if NVMe prices start collapsing and Microsoft does nothing about the price, but the former actually has to happen first and NVMe flash memory has been a very volatile (heh) market in price fluctuations compared to stuff where the drops are fairly linear like SD cards or flash drives. COVID hasn't helped that, and more and more things using more and more flash storage onboard hasn't either.


This isn't 20GB 360 hard drives circa 2008, so no, they don't.


So does Sony, whose even more expensive internal storage solution forced them to include even less than a terabyte; and who will require top shelf Gen IV NVMe drives if you want to expand on PS4 storage that also will be several hundred dollars for the near future.


Since the storage included in the system is most assuredly one of the most expensive individual components this console generation (for both systems) when that hadn't been true since the original Xbox, I'm perfectly capable of understanding why Microsoft (and Sony) didn't put a larger SSD in the system even if it means people will run into a wall.


That horrible price gouging of around $20. Those bastards.



Anything else? Since you obviously didn't bother to check how much NVMes cost before you commented in this thread or when you doubled down on your first post when called on it, I can only once again insist that you actually check how much decent NVMe SSDs cost before you go off about how much Microsoft is gouging people for selling a decent NVMe SSD in a custom enclosure specifically for the Xbox.
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Well said, exactly what I was leading to. All one has to do is check the price of NVMe drives to understand the true cost of these new devices.

It actually underlines how much of great deal these new consoles are & how both MS & Sony are at best breaking even or more than likely selling at a loss. There's no price gouging going on here.
 
Tornado
It doesn't suggest anything, even if you had any clue what those prices were.

Which you clearly don't, since you are under the impression that Microsoft (or Sony!) adding significantly more storage out of the box wouldn't have been a big deal on their end and that they simply didn't do so to force people to buy an expansion.



Let's go over this step by step to help you out:

No it's not. It's about $20 more than a mid-grade Gen IV NVMe (presumably what the expansion card is if it matches the internal speed specs of the system) of the same capacity, but in a custom form factor (which adds costs) that has the benefit of being more consumer friendly than the normal design; with the top tier bare bare drives not on the market yet but promising to be the same price or more. The only way it will be a ridiculous price is if NVMe prices start collapsing and Microsoft does nothing about the price, but the former actually has to happen first and NVMe flash memory has been a very volatile (heh) market in price fluctuations compared to stuff where the drops are fairly linear like SD cards or flash drives. COVID hasn't helped that, and more and more things using more and more flash storage onboard hasn't either.


This isn't 20GB 360 hard drives circa 2008, so no, they don't.


So does Sony, whose even more expensive internal storage solution forced them to include even less than a terabyte; and who will require top shelf Gen IV NVMe drives if you want to expand on PS4 storage that also will be several hundred dollars for the near future.


Since the storage included in the system is most assuredly one of the most expensive individual components this console generation (for both systems) when that hadn't been true since the original Xbox, I'm perfectly capable of understanding why Microsoft (and Sony) didn't put a larger SSD in the system even if it means people will run into a wall.


That horrible price gouging of around $20. Those bastards.



Anything else? Since you obviously didn't bother to check how much NVMes cost before you commented in this thread or when you doubled down on your first post when called on it, I can only once again insist that you actually check how much decent NVMe SSDs cost before you go off about how much Microsoft is gouging people for selling a decent NVMe SSD in a custom enclosure specifically for the Xbox.
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Wow, you obviously have some anger issues there, suggest you cool off boy ! Ive done my research but you obviously want to make an argument out of it. Anything else ?
 
shoemaker
Ive done my research
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I note this post where you transparently try to change the subject off of the things you were claiming still contains nothing to suggest that to be the case.

shoemaker
but you obviously want to make an argument out of it.
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That tends to happen when people act like they know what they are talking about, then get petulant and double down on it when it is pointed out that they actually don't.

shoemaker
Anything else ?
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Doesn't seem to be, no.
 
Tornado
I note this post where you transparently try to change the subject off of the things you were claiming still contains nothing to suggest that to be the case.


That tends to happen when people act like they know what they are talking about, then get petulant and double down on it when it is pointed out that they actually don't.


Doesn't seem to be, no.
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At least you tried to sound convincing i guess by googling stuff. Il take the W and move on whilst you pay full retail price for a NVMes .
 
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So what's the production cost for one of these drives?
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Actually, because of everything going on, NAND prices are expected (and have steadily been already) to decline throughout the end of this year and into 2021. It was originally expected to become more expensive but didn't because of COVID. I believe individual costs are something in the ballpark of 7.5 cents per GB.
 
shoemaker
At least you tried to sound convincing i guess by googling stuff. Il take the W and move on whilst you pay full retail price for a NVMes .
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:lol:

At what point does something become embarrassing?
 

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