Sebastien Loeb Challenge

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I surprised myself, (this may be considered cheating) I normally cannot rally on the Turismo series however got all gold and it it is worth it (you can guess the prizes)

I use manual gears, traction control 3, ABS 5 and maybe skid control if allowed (or maybe not).All on the pad too.

I smoked the eiger by about 7 seconds and likewise on the Chamonix. Although Toscan only crept in with several tenths of a second but iwas my first rally race (except licenses)

Hope this helps, also I sit almost with face pressed to the tv to get these !!:)
 
Yeah I'm having a lot of troubles with this one, can't even get bronze on the Toscana rally. I just don't have any idea how I am supposed to take the tight corners.

PS. Haha, never mind! I totally forgot about ASM, after turning it off, I instantly got ~10 seconds faster time.
 
Turn off ABS because then the car goes way faster although chamonix can still be wicked hard though because there's a lot of stuff that can go wrong.
 
Rallying is not like drifting. Both might involve cars travelling sideways, but rallying is more of a discipline than an extreme sport. When you slide through corners in a rally car, the idea is to use the slide to get through the corner as quickly as possible; in drifting, it's all about the show, which slows you down. The trick is to slide just enough to keep your momentum going through the corner so that you can carry speed into the next section of road, but not so much that you fishtail. Rallying is less about power and more about control; don't pound on the accelerator as soon as you're through a corner. Rather, balance the power to match your motion. Increase the power steadily as the car corrects itself, or else you'll just spin about. Learn to anticipate the corner ahead, because unlike circuit racing, the fastest line through a corner is often unconventional at best, and think about where you are on the road in relation to the next corner when you come out of the previous one. Aim to be in the best position possible for the next turn when you're done with the one you're in. Get into a rhythm and moderate the throttle for maximum effectiveness. It might sound slower to control the throttle as you come out of your slide than it is to simply pounce on the accelerator the moment you come out of a corner, but it's much better in the long run. Above all else, remember this: you have to play the long game. You have to think ahead - where you are, where you'll be and where you should be for the next corner.
 
I turn all aids off except for ABS set to 1 using analog sticks. Toscana and Eiger aren't difficult, just learn the track layout as best you can prior to attempting the challenges. Chamonix took me the best part of an hour to gold. The key there is to upshift before reaching the redline. Don't be aggressive, drive smoothly. Be very cautious with acceleration and choose braking points wisely.
 
Got all gold I was well suprised ! I left the car as it was and basically tried to be smooth but aggressive and also when on the throttle out of corners get the wheels straight as fast as possible and try using 1st instead of 2nd on some corners where the rpm drops right off. chamonix, I basically stayed 1 gear higher than it was telling me through the corners.
 
Rallying is not like drifting. Both might involve cars travelling sideways, but rallying is more of a discipline than an extreme sport. When you slide through corners in a rally car, the idea is to use the slide to get through the corner as quickly as possible; in drifting, it's all about the show, which slows you down. The trick is to slide just enough to keep your momentum going through the corner so that you can carry speed into the next section of road, but not so much that you fishtail. Rallying is less about power and more about control; don't pound on the accelerator as soon as you're through a corner. Rather, balance the power to match your motion. Increase the power steadily as the car corrects itself, or else you'll just spin about. Learn to anticipate the corner ahead, because unlike circuit racing, the fastest line through a corner is often unconventional at best, and think about where you are on the road in relation to the next corner when you come out of the previous one. Aim to be in the best position possible for the next turn when you're done with the one you're in. Get into a rhythm and moderate the throttle for maximum effectiveness. It might sound slower to control the throttle as you come out of your slide than it is to simply pounce on the accelerator the moment you come out of a corner, but it's much better in the long run. Above all else, remember this: you have to play the long game. You have to think ahead - where you are, where you'll be and where you should be for the next corner.

This here is good advice.👍
 
I tried Eiger with G27 and got bronze, tried twice, 2nd time was 1:20. I don't see myself being good enough to get gold anytime soon.
 
Well...rally is about cornering. Predict your corners, as well your braking. You usually start cornering before the turn starts itself... with practice you get the hang of it.
 
Okay, reading over my last comment, it's a bit too wordy and sort of repeats itself a little bit. So I'll try to use an analogy to put it in simpler terms.

Rallying is like a hammer. Now, you can hold the hammer at the very end to pound in a nail. You have a lot of power, but no control. You can get the nail in with one good, hard blow, but maybe you'll miss it. Maybe you'll hit your thumb instead. So you can grasp the hammer so that your hand is touching the head of the hammer. Now you have a lot more control. You're not going to miss the nail and you're not going to hit your thumb, but you have no power. It's going to take five or six hits to drive the nail in. What you have to do is find that mid-point that you're comfortable with, the place where you'll have enough power to drive the nail in, but enough control that you don't miss and hit your thumb.

Rallying works the same way: you need balance. Too much power and you'll spin yourself around. Too much control and you'll just be slow. You need to find that sweet spot in between where power and control compliment one another rather than work against each other. You're not so much driving the car as you are guiding it. Trust that the car knows what to do, concentrate on finding that smooth rhythm that I talked about earlier and try not to put too much thought about it. Rallying isn't about precision, it's about feeling. Think about what's coming up ahead, but don't put so much thought into it that you forget about the corner you're in. Speed and technique will come later; for now, it's important to concentrate on power and control. Don't try and force them to work together - just let it happen and everything will fall into place.
 
Thx for all your help. But i know what rallye is like. I'm a Marshal and have seen many WRC Rallyes live on the track.

But in GT5 i just don't get the clue. There must be something i do wrong, but i don't know what it is xD

Edit: Ok, just got gold on Toscan. :D

Edit2: Gold on Eiger too. I think i've got the trick ^^
 
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Enabling skid control is the "win button" for these events. I golded the first event on my first try, but the other 2 I was a few seconds behind earning a bronze. I enabled skid control and destroyed the ghost car and knocked over 20 seconds off my times.
 
Got all gold I was well suprised ! I left the car as it was and basically tried to be smooth but aggressive and also when on the throttle out of corners get the wheels straight as fast as possible and try using 1st instead of 2nd on some corners where the rpm drops right off. chamonix, I basically stayed 1 gear higher than it was telling me through the corners.
Same here, thats the trick on Chamonix - if you don't take a risk and are too slow through the corners then you'll get bogged down in the snow and lose precious seconds.

I found the rallying difficult at first but now I'm really enjoying the challenge and somehow (:confused:) got all 3 golds
 
They're designed to help newcomers to the series. They're left on as the default because it's more likely that experienced players will go looking for a way to turn them off than newcomers will go looking for a way to turn them on.
 
It sounds like the driver aids are really cheats in the game.
Unrealistic too.

Yep unrealistic that cars in real life have such cheating devises as ABS and traction control! I have never seen a car with any of the cheats GT5 delivers!

Seriously, there is a "leetism" attitude amongst GT5 players. If you don't take everything off, (even though a certain car might actually have said helping device in real life), then you are laughed at, mocked, and thought lesser of.

One thing I don't get though.. There is always complaining that the game isn't realistic enough, yet people remove the realistic driving aids?

Most also say they race faster with all turned off. Yet they won't race against anyone with helping devices on. All online leagues are with all aids off, even though it sounds like its a handicap to have them on?

That was off-topic, and i appologise sincerly.

On topic: I have yet to get even bronze in any of the Loeb events, have only tried a few times but seems rather hard for me. I have a heavy right foot, and that shows on the times especially in rally >_<. Im going to try again tomorrow, with these advices, and see if I can do it.
 
I love rally, but I suck......

what are best settings for chamonix and eiger?

Toscana was somehow really easy for me I got 1.55.xxx and gold is 1.58.xxx... than I tried eiger and I was ~15 sec behind bronze :nervous:
 
I surprised myself, (this may be considered cheating)I use manual gears, traction control 3, ABS 5 and maybe skid control if allowed (or maybe not).All on the pad too.

That is what you need to do. I tried it yester day with everything off. couldnt even get bronze on Toscana. now i got gold on it first try
 
I used an automatic transmission and didn't touch the default settings:
Toscana: Gold by 1 second
Eiger: gold by .67 seconds
Chamonix: Gold by 6+ seconds.

Of note, Chamonix has horrible gear indicators. I usually was in 3-5th gear and rarely went into 2nd or 1st like it suggests.
 
I'm done with not using aids. I have almost everything on from now on. Controlling a slide every 2 seconds is not fun, and is not realistic in real life.
 
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