ShobThaBob
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So I went out and bought one of these imported thingamajigs. I got my first taste of what skylines were like back in 2006 when I stopped by Sun's Auto up on the north side. It felt like nothing I had ever driven. Up until recently, the 'car that comes next' had to be faster in either a straight line or around a circuit than the car I was currently driving. I felt like there was no way I could 'downgrade.' With my 2013 Mustang GT and the Boss 302 parts that came with it, the only way for me to step up was to go for a heavily built car or move over to a corvette. At the same time, going faster didn't really mean a whole lot to me since I got into racing heavily with Chumpcar. Sure, tons of acceleration and pushing past 150 on smooth highways is an incredible feeling, but doesn't come close to wheel to wheel endurance racing for me. So a big part of the reason I got the mustang kind of dissipated. Any fun car money was going to go to actual racing as apposed to making my DD faster or going to track days. That started pushing me down the path of wanting something comfortable and sedate to drive on the daily. I can be a fairly frugal person, so I was expecting to end up with something like a much older civic or focus, but I ended up paying more than I intended and got myself an 09 ES350. The NVH levels are wonderful. It has more than enough power. It has more than enough equipment to make me feel like I'll drive it till it dies. And yet, on a whim, I'd still like the ability to drive something that puts a smile on my face instead of lulling me into a coma.
So what for a fun car? Miatas are pretty great. An F body with a forced induction LS1 was on the table briefly. Perhaps a classic mustang. But part of me has always been drawn to the forbidden fruit. I got into cars because of Gran Turismo 3. My best friend worked at blockbuster when it came out, and after all the renting sprees are done, they're left with tons of copies to sell to employees for dirt cheap prices. He hated it and knowing how much I like punishing games, said, "Travis, this game is for you."
And he was right. Boy, was he right. That game opened up a whole new world of cars to me, and I've lusted like a madman over the ones we weren't allowed to have. The Type Rs, GTRs, GTiRs, Kei cars, and rotaries which were supposedly far more reliable than the ones we got.
Before purchasing the Mustang, I came obscenely close to purchasing a state titled R33 through a dealership in...wait for it...FLORIDA! After eating up month after month of developments with Motorex, reading Sean's blog, watching Kaizo rise and fall, I had a very good idea of what risks I could take and what the likelihood of having my car taken was. Considering I'm a bit of a flamboyant driver, I decided to go with something USDM. Once 2014 came around and the 1989 GTRs were suddenly up for grabs, I watched the market intently. The prices ended up being a bit more than what I was expecting, but not too much more. Unfortunately, around the time I decided to buy one, the yen's buying power had skyrocketed and small dealerships had the auction prices by the balls. Knowing that super clean or heavily modded cars were going for 1.8-2 million yen before they even left the country, I decided that buying a car that was stateside was the best route to take. There are all sorts of smaller issues that can crop up, and I'd rather have there be a first owner over here who had those headaches instead of me.
That being said, skyline owners can be huge pains in the ass all by themselves. There are guys out there who will cancel deals after plane tickets have been bought, just because they don't have the balls to tell you they wanted more for their car. There are guys who will try to say that rusted holes in the trunk are normal and no big deal. As an aside, the only rust that wouldn't bother me a whole lot would be in the wheel well fender. There are guys who want to answer as few questions as possible and hope that they get a bite from out of state so they don't have to have a buyer who sees the car before he purchases it. I know of one dealership in Houston who got a dirt cheap blue wingless skyline with loads of rust all over the car and sold it to a guy in Fort Worth for nearly twice the price of what they got it for after the boat ride to the states.
This goes for the car business in general, but is especially true when dealing with imported cars that were never sold here - if you're selling a car and you're hoping to get an ignorant buyer who won't ask the right questions and is not informed, you're trash and you're a detriment to the community.
So, the car I ended up buying was the first GTR I test drove. I went to a dealership who had a bunch, but they insisted on driving the car themselves. On top of being shady as **** and trying to sell a bunch of rusted out garbage like it was mountains of gold, you don't treat your 20k dollar car like it's a Ferrari. At the end of the day, realistically, these cost about as much as brand new civics and accords. Anyway, there was that **** experience, and then I drove the car I bought. But I didn't buy it right away. The price at that time was 21k, which was way more than I was willing to pay for this one. It had some whatever mods on it with some rims that I certainly didn't care for, no working ac, but a pretty straight body. Lots of bolt ons. Nothing glaringly bad, but nothing glaringly positive to raise price either. Plus, I knew beforehand that he got it for 15.5k landed after the boat ride. So knowing that he didn't put much work into the car, I wasn't about to give him an extra 5 grand profit just because the yen became awesome.
I went through a ton of different cars online. JDM Expo was very thorough and helpful when going through their current stock, and for a dealership, were pretty reasonable with their prices. I can't say the same for International Vehicle Importers, Rivsu, or Japanese Classics, but I also didn't go through any haggling with them, so I'm not privy to the prices that they're willing to settle for either. Having been in the car business, though, if you're looking to make 3-5 grand off of every sale, you're not worth my time. I did look at Driver Motorsports, and their prices are also very high, but the quality of vehicles that they're selling is also on a different level from everyone else. Lots of parts on the cars for the buyer who doesn't just want a normal GTR. Part of me is definitely that. And, if I had the kind of cash laying around to buy one of their cars and still be comfortable, I probably would've done that, but it would have dipped a bit too deeply into my pockets and I'd rather be reasonable when dealing with my "for fun" car. I also had to deal with the aforementioned guy in Virginia who we worked out a deal with and knew I would be flying up and, less than a week before my departure date, decided to tell me that the car sold 'just last night' and a guy came by and gave him a cash offer that he just 'couldn't refuse.' Except that the car is still there and for sale. Whatever, faggot.
I also test drove and did a bit of haggling with the owner of https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/5808834615.html I explained to him my situation with the car I ended up buying, and told him that if for whatever reason my deal fell through, I would happily and without hesitation pay more for his. And for good reason. It's extremely well taken care of, super clean all around. Fantastic paint, fantastic interior, great looking underbody, super cold ac, and a wonderful seller. I can't say enough nice things about the owner or the car. It was almost like a time capsule. If I was the type of owner who was very thorough in keeping every bit of the car clean and spotless, I would've gone for this car in a heartbeat. But, I'm not that type of owner. I'm pretty rough on my cars. They get beaten up, trashed, and abused. I would've felt like a monster doing such things to this mint R32. If you're in the market for one, please contact the guy and give it a chance.
So I got this thing. I'm not a huge fan of the wheels. Not a huge fan of the hood. Not a huge fan of the steering wheel. But at the same time none of those things truly ruins it for me at the moment. The car has a some intake stuff done it, some adjustable suspension stuff done to it, a bunch of exhuast stuff done to it, and some painted valve covers. There are some very minor upkeep things that I'm going to address and, at the same time, convert the car to E85. I'll bump boost to 14 or so PSI at the same time and sit tight. I think that will be more than enough for me and this car. I don't need a ton of power. I don't need a car that will rip peoples faces off. I just need it to be a car that puts smiles on my face, and I've yet to be behind the wheel of a skyline that doesn't do that, including GTSTs.
So what for a fun car? Miatas are pretty great. An F body with a forced induction LS1 was on the table briefly. Perhaps a classic mustang. But part of me has always been drawn to the forbidden fruit. I got into cars because of Gran Turismo 3. My best friend worked at blockbuster when it came out, and after all the renting sprees are done, they're left with tons of copies to sell to employees for dirt cheap prices. He hated it and knowing how much I like punishing games, said, "Travis, this game is for you."
And he was right. Boy, was he right. That game opened up a whole new world of cars to me, and I've lusted like a madman over the ones we weren't allowed to have. The Type Rs, GTRs, GTiRs, Kei cars, and rotaries which were supposedly far more reliable than the ones we got.
Before purchasing the Mustang, I came obscenely close to purchasing a state titled R33 through a dealership in...wait for it...FLORIDA! After eating up month after month of developments with Motorex, reading Sean's blog, watching Kaizo rise and fall, I had a very good idea of what risks I could take and what the likelihood of having my car taken was. Considering I'm a bit of a flamboyant driver, I decided to go with something USDM. Once 2014 came around and the 1989 GTRs were suddenly up for grabs, I watched the market intently. The prices ended up being a bit more than what I was expecting, but not too much more. Unfortunately, around the time I decided to buy one, the yen's buying power had skyrocketed and small dealerships had the auction prices by the balls. Knowing that super clean or heavily modded cars were going for 1.8-2 million yen before they even left the country, I decided that buying a car that was stateside was the best route to take. There are all sorts of smaller issues that can crop up, and I'd rather have there be a first owner over here who had those headaches instead of me.
That being said, skyline owners can be huge pains in the ass all by themselves. There are guys out there who will cancel deals after plane tickets have been bought, just because they don't have the balls to tell you they wanted more for their car. There are guys who will try to say that rusted holes in the trunk are normal and no big deal. As an aside, the only rust that wouldn't bother me a whole lot would be in the wheel well fender. There are guys who want to answer as few questions as possible and hope that they get a bite from out of state so they don't have to have a buyer who sees the car before he purchases it. I know of one dealership in Houston who got a dirt cheap blue wingless skyline with loads of rust all over the car and sold it to a guy in Fort Worth for nearly twice the price of what they got it for after the boat ride to the states.
This goes for the car business in general, but is especially true when dealing with imported cars that were never sold here - if you're selling a car and you're hoping to get an ignorant buyer who won't ask the right questions and is not informed, you're trash and you're a detriment to the community.
So, the car I ended up buying was the first GTR I test drove. I went to a dealership who had a bunch, but they insisted on driving the car themselves. On top of being shady as **** and trying to sell a bunch of rusted out garbage like it was mountains of gold, you don't treat your 20k dollar car like it's a Ferrari. At the end of the day, realistically, these cost about as much as brand new civics and accords. Anyway, there was that **** experience, and then I drove the car I bought. But I didn't buy it right away. The price at that time was 21k, which was way more than I was willing to pay for this one. It had some whatever mods on it with some rims that I certainly didn't care for, no working ac, but a pretty straight body. Lots of bolt ons. Nothing glaringly bad, but nothing glaringly positive to raise price either. Plus, I knew beforehand that he got it for 15.5k landed after the boat ride. So knowing that he didn't put much work into the car, I wasn't about to give him an extra 5 grand profit just because the yen became awesome.
I went through a ton of different cars online. JDM Expo was very thorough and helpful when going through their current stock, and for a dealership, were pretty reasonable with their prices. I can't say the same for International Vehicle Importers, Rivsu, or Japanese Classics, but I also didn't go through any haggling with them, so I'm not privy to the prices that they're willing to settle for either. Having been in the car business, though, if you're looking to make 3-5 grand off of every sale, you're not worth my time. I did look at Driver Motorsports, and their prices are also very high, but the quality of vehicles that they're selling is also on a different level from everyone else. Lots of parts on the cars for the buyer who doesn't just want a normal GTR. Part of me is definitely that. And, if I had the kind of cash laying around to buy one of their cars and still be comfortable, I probably would've done that, but it would have dipped a bit too deeply into my pockets and I'd rather be reasonable when dealing with my "for fun" car. I also had to deal with the aforementioned guy in Virginia who we worked out a deal with and knew I would be flying up and, less than a week before my departure date, decided to tell me that the car sold 'just last night' and a guy came by and gave him a cash offer that he just 'couldn't refuse.' Except that the car is still there and for sale. Whatever, faggot.
I also test drove and did a bit of haggling with the owner of https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/5808834615.html I explained to him my situation with the car I ended up buying, and told him that if for whatever reason my deal fell through, I would happily and without hesitation pay more for his. And for good reason. It's extremely well taken care of, super clean all around. Fantastic paint, fantastic interior, great looking underbody, super cold ac, and a wonderful seller. I can't say enough nice things about the owner or the car. It was almost like a time capsule. If I was the type of owner who was very thorough in keeping every bit of the car clean and spotless, I would've gone for this car in a heartbeat. But, I'm not that type of owner. I'm pretty rough on my cars. They get beaten up, trashed, and abused. I would've felt like a monster doing such things to this mint R32. If you're in the market for one, please contact the guy and give it a chance.
So I got this thing. I'm not a huge fan of the wheels. Not a huge fan of the hood. Not a huge fan of the steering wheel. But at the same time none of those things truly ruins it for me at the moment. The car has a some intake stuff done it, some adjustable suspension stuff done to it, a bunch of exhuast stuff done to it, and some painted valve covers. There are some very minor upkeep things that I'm going to address and, at the same time, convert the car to E85. I'll bump boost to 14 or so PSI at the same time and sit tight. I think that will be more than enough for me and this car. I don't need a ton of power. I don't need a car that will rip peoples faces off. I just need it to be a car that puts smiles on my face, and I've yet to be behind the wheel of a skyline that doesn't do that, including GTSTs.
