Shocked! Drifting makes car faster.

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My skyline was doing fine in previous races, but when I got to SSR5 I realised I had heavy understeer when I tried to corner as fast as my rivals. To make matters worse, the lead car always seemed to have a higher top speed down the straights. I simply couldn't win.

Solution? Elimate understeer by keeping the weight on the front tires with speed drifting. Here is the result:

*Video Removed* UPDATE: After further testing I found that drifting is not faster than grip driving. The fastest driving involves weight transfer like drifting, but without the traction loss. Thanks to all those that replied and corrected me.

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Speed drifting (invented by Keiichi Tsuchiya ) is a form of drifting with minimal-angle and minimal-countersteer. It keeps the weight at front and allows the car to enter and exit corners at higher speeds, eliminating understeer. Although it doesn't look as impressive as show drifting, the car does slide on all four tires. Its application is limited for racing, but in this case, it made the car much faster. Test it for yourself:

Expert Series: Tuned Car Championship
Race 4, Special Stage Route 5

Sim handling, power assist: off, driver aids: off, abs: off.

(Premium) Nissan Skyline GT-R Spec II (R32) '94
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Chassis Weight reduction - Stage 1
Carbon Bonnet
Sports ECU
Engine Tuning - Stage 2
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air Filter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Titanium Racing Exhaust
High RPM Range Turbo Kit
Clutch: Twin-plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
Suspension: Height-Adjustable Sports Kit
*Ride Height: -5,-5
*Spring Rate: 5.3,5.1
*Dampers: 3,3
*Camber Angle: 2.5,2.5
*Brake Balance: 10, 3
Tires: Sports Tires, Soft

Drift Techniques used in video: Brake, shift-lock, inertia, power-over, clutch-kick
 
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hey mate,


I think i can go faster without your drifting technique. I hope someone else can before i do though, i might take me a while to attempt this.
 
Not every turn and track will benefit from this.
I think you are referring to trail braking?

Trail braking can induce the same weight-at-the-front style cornering.
 
It's not the same as trail braking. I couldn't get the weight to stay at the front long enough with just trail braking, needed to slide the car a bit and keep it sliding with clutch kicks and power over. The car just couldn't corner fast enough.

It'd be cool if someone could confirm this. I've always been told grip is fastest, but here it seems not to be the case.

I'm not arguing speed drift is always faster, just with specific car/track combos like this.
 
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The video looks slow. Would be much faster if you took better lines and didnt scrub off so much speed mid corner.

All you are doing is fast in slow out.
 
With the exception of one turn (I think first left of third lap) that sliding sound was Gran Turismo saying that you were understeering. Generally in a drift, your car should be pointed to the inside of the turn and your steering wheel turned in the opposite direction of the turn. Thanks for sharing, though.
 
stormy calligrapher
With the exception of one turn (I think first left of third lap) that sliding sound was Gran Turismo saying that you were understeering. Generally in a drift, your car should be pointed to the inside of the turn and your steering wheel turned in the opposite direction of the turn. Thanks for sharing, though.
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That is not correct. The counter is equal to the angle of the drift and is first subtracted from the natural lock of the turn. With small angle drifts the counter wont be visible on a replay and small-angle drifts are very hard to see. I can assure you the car was drifting from the force feedback and weight transfer, but thats not something a video can capture.
 
If you are faster when drifting then you are doing something wrong when you try to grip. Even on gravel drifting is not faster, just look at sebastian loeb and his smooth driving style.
 
You're right to an extent, if you have 100% grip, 100% of the time, you're losing speed to friction in the corners. There is a slight drift to a proper corner at speed, and if you watch F1 in slow motion, you will notice that they also have a slight drift though the tighter corners.

However, show drifting or anything near that, isn't faster. It IS a hell of a lot more fun, though!
 
you didn`t half to report me.thats messed up.cant take criticism noob?atleast i got my point across:yuck:where is that vid?
 
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