Skyline GT-R in Speed GT Series

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Check it out:

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http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/roadracing/22092/

For those of you who have wanted to see a Skyline in action, or just go up against the Vipers, Corvettes, etc. It should be entertaining.

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...So you mean we get to see one of the most overrated cars in the history of modern automobiles get completely blown apart by Corvettes, Vipers, CTS-Vs, and Porsche GT3's? It makes me want to laugh in the face of the guy who decided he wanted to run his GTR here!

Give it a year or two though, and I wouldnt be surprised to see Nissan running the new V35 GTR here in America. Although I dont doubt its performance capabilities (theoretically), its still going to have to work hard if it is going up against Z06's and SRT-10s.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing it! 👍 They better have enough money to come out west...
 
YSSMAN
...Although I dont doubt its performance capabilities (theoretically), its still going to have to work hard if it is going up against Z06's and SRT-10s.
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Hard work indeed. It's another team to watch. I enjoy that. Variety of makes and models is what interests me. Some models come in and need to be restricted to make them less dominant and others need help to keep up. I am interested to see the "legend" come in and compete with its all-wheel drive. I'm not necessarily rooting for it, but I like new makes and models joining in. Plus, anyone who can unseat the factory Cadillac team makes me smile. :)

I know that skylines compete in the Nurb 24-hour race. I also think I have seen it in the Bathurst 24 race. (I may be mistaken...someone care to check me on that?) Have any of these privateer Skyline GT-Rs enjoyed success on a constant basis?
 
The Skyline used to race in Australia but it got banned because it was too fast and dominated too much so the rules changed. I doubt it'll make too big an impact in it's first few races, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't be competitive against the Viper's and Vette's.
 
Keep in mind, though, that it was the R32 GTR that was banned from Australian Group A touring car competition (where its primary competition was Ford Sierra RS500's, BMW M3's: E30 generation, and Holden Commodores).

The R34 GTR has no such "overwhelming" record in international motorsport and certainly has never matched pace on equal footing with the outgoing Z06 Corvette or the Viper Competition Coupe.

I am certain that the team campaigning the Skyline will be competent and will mount a charge against some of the mid-pack teams (Hollfelder Mustang, McCann Vipers, Hagar Ford GT, Hayner's GTO) but it's not going to have much for the factory Viper effort (Tommy Archer and Autohaus Motorsport), the Caddy CTS-V's, the multitude of 911's, or the C6 Vettes.
 
Yeah, I think the big deal is not car v car but more privateer vs manufacturer. The skyline should do a good job but I don't expect any miracles.
 
Ah... I was just waiting for someone to knock the Skyline. What do you mean overrated? The Civic gets overrated, (Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini) get overrated as far as people wanting them in GT games, and you say this about the Skyline? I totally disagree.

What I WILL agree with is that I don't think it will be an outright favorite. What astounds me about all of this is that America has grown a sort of fondness with the Skyline. America has never seen a commercially-available Skyline in the 229 years this nation's been founded. I think this is a welcome oppurtunity for Skyline lovers to see this car compete in the States. Whether you like the certain cars in the series doesn't matter as much as seeing a variety of cars compete at once. I mean, I HATE Cadillac, but they kicked ass in Speed GT against Corvettes and Vipers and Audis and such. I've heard stories about the Skyline actually possessing more horsepower than when the "Gentlemen's Agreement" for the car's power was made, which was 276hp of course. I heard it pushed 400+ unrestricted. I'm not a big Nissan fan, but I have respect for the Skyline. It has as much lineage in Japanese automobiles as the Corvette or Mustang here in America. It isn't like the Skyline is a 150hp, front-wheel drive car that... oh, can do 150 mph somehow.

I'm actually going to give the Skyline a chance. I don't have it as a preseason favorite, but if it makes some momentum (which I think is 35% likely), then I'll say it is the ultimate sleeper. Other than that, I'd keep the bashing to a medium with this Los Angeles team.
 
There was no Skyline in the Bathurst 24hr race but an R33 Skyline did race at Bathurst in the 3 hour race for GT production based cars a few years ago. It was well off the pace compared to the Porsches and Viper but it was a brief privately funded effort, although so was every other car.
An R32 won the Spa 24hr race in 1991. I think the Skyline has the ability to compete but does the team have the funds to put in the required effort and does the driver have the ability?

PS. There were plans to scrap the Group A formula before the R32 even had it's first race in Australia.
 
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There was no Skyline in the Bathurst 24hr race but an R33 Skyline did race at Bathurst in the 3 hour race for GT production based cars a few years ago. It was well off the pace compared to the Porsches and Viper but it was a brief privately funded effort, although so was every other car.
An R32 won the Spa 24hr race in 1991. I think the Skyline has the ability to compete but does the team have the funds to put in the required effort and does the driver have the ability?

PS. There were plans to scrap the Group A formula before the R32 even had it's first race in Australia.
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Thanks for the clarification. 👍 I thought I spied a Skyline in one of Speed Channel's compressed highlight videos from Bathurst. But it played at like 2am on a Thursday some months ago. I just happened to be awake and flipping the channels when I caught the show. It might have been a highlight reel from past races.
 
At the same time the Porsche's, Vipers and Vette's could never keep up with the Skylines in the JGTC. In any factory backed efforts the Skyline has been competitive, even at LeMans they had the pace, theres no reason that this car can't be, if it is then theres only the team to blame.
 
The UK GTR Club found that the "base" R34 GTR was making 328HP as opposed to the 276HP rated by Nissan.

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And the R34 GT-R brings all the guts to do so! Start the engine and you soon notice this is a direct descendant of the 1995/96 500+hp GT1 engine. The redline is at an astonishing 8000rpm, which promises a lot of fun. Press the accelerator though, and the RB26DETT will need at least 3500rpm until it really gets going - before that it is flat and lifeless.
Still, keeping the engine in its best power-range is quite easy with the perfect 6-speed Getrag gearbox. The new transmission is precise and offers good feel, with a clutch that is light, sharp and progressive. Thus, launching the car is quite easy: Drop the accelerator and dump the clutch at 8000rpm (sounds terrible, doesn’t it?!). 1st gear goes until 44mph, so one shift is necessary until 60mph is hit in 2nd gear after 4.9 seconds. Keep the pedal planted and the Skyline passes the 100mph mark in 12.3 seconds - both times faster than a Porsche 911 Carrera 4...

But where the Skyline cannot hide its nose-heavy layout is on the skidpad, since ATTESA does not help much here. The behavior is dominated by understeer, although with the right balance between smooth driving and aggressive throttling, the GT-R still reaches a road-holding of 0.88g.
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Hmmm, sounds like it performs, oh, about as well as a LS2-powered Pontiac GTO.

Heres a link to the R34 review page I quoted. It has a lot of good information, as well as performance stats, and some opinions as well.

BTW: I belive the article was written in 1999 or 2000, so the quote about the Porsche Carrera 4 is a bit out of date...
 
Certainly, YSS, the R34GTR and the LS2 GTO are performance equals off the showroom floor. Guess what......

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Stu Hayner's GTO is about as well prepared as any non-factory car in the Speed World Challenge, and it's a fight for Stu to stay in the top ten week in, week out.

It'll be much the same situation for AF's Skyline if they can match the prepwork and skill level of Stu Hayner (a multiple winner in Trans Am competition, as well as GARRA and Grand Am Cup). Look to a year long fight to stay in the hunt for top ten finishes. No more, no less.
 
...I thought the GTO-R won it's class this year in the SCCA races?
-Or thats what Pontiac had said in their ad
 
The GTO-R competes in GARRA Rolex series events and won several times in the Rolex GT class.

The Stu Hayner campaigned Pontiac GTO competes in SCCA Speed World Challenge GT events. It's an entirely different car in an entirely different series, and it hasn't been nearly as competitive as the GTO-R, but it also doesn't have GM factory backing (that's reserved for the Caddies).
 
Ohhh, I didnt know. Comcast took the SPEED Channel off the block of "regular" digital cable, so I havent been able to watch any WRC, F1, or SCCA racing for a year and a half now...
 
Well, glad to be informative. Really, though, it's pretty easy to tell the GTO-R from the Hayner GTO.

Here's the Hayner GTO again.

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Notice the position and size of the SCCA mandated rear wing, the flat chin splitter, the bulge style fender flares, and the exhaust that exits behind the doors.

Now here's a GARRA spec GTO-R.

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The GARRA GTO-R's have flush-style widebody fenders, a sill-level side exit exhaust, a much lower and smaller rear wing (as opposed to the large SCCA mandated piece), and no splitter. Also, you can see that the GARRA GTO-R runs a lot less tire than the SCCA GTO.

Of course, the GTO-R's in GARRA are not necessarily the rule of thumb for GTO's in the Rolex series. Horizon Motorsports also has a pair of GTO's that are equally different from the TRG/Krohn campaigned GTO-R's.

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Horizon's GTO's are narrower than the GTO-R's and run '04 hoods and air dams, still without a chin splitter.

Just an example of the creativity and diversity in American road racing. 👍
 
an very interesting battle to see is GTO Vs.Skyline. makes you wonder if Nissan is going to watching with keen interest considering the last factory GT car they ran in america was the 300-ZX(Fairlady).
 
Just a quick comment... I don't care what anyone says, the latest GTO is a sweet machine. Even if we had to look to Holden, it's a nice machine.

GTO vs. Skyline... that would be quite an interesting matchup, RACECAR. So here's my question. Between 0 and 100 percent, what are the chances...

a.) ...that the Skyline will win either the Driver's or Manufacturer's title in its first year?
b.) ...that the Skyline will win at least three races?
c.) ...of it dominating the Corvettes and Vipers?
d.) ...of it getting three or more podium finishes?
e.) ...that people will want the forthcoming GT-R in a few years and actually be able to afford it?

Have at it, homies.
 
imagine if they were to win the manufacturers championship, that would perhaps be the biggest upset anyone would have seen. well can't wait till next month as this is the Skyline GTR's return to racing sense being retired from the JGTC Competition.
 
Well, there is less than a year before the V35 (or whatever they are calling it) GTR should be hitting the streets, as presumably going racing. I'd make that a more compeditive car with the Corvette and Viper, but the R34 isnt going to put a dent in the two as it stands right now...
 
That render on top is not what the AF GTR is going to look like. The AF GTR is going to be essentially the same car as the N1 racer that races all over the world.

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Automotive Forums sponsored the car, so my question is this, when is Jordan and the GTPlanet.net forum going to sponsor me to drive a car?!?!?!
I'll do it for cases of beer, because the glory and women will come free. :lol:
 
AF did not just sponsor the car, they are the ones that bought it and will be campagining(definate sp) it.
 
FireEmblem62
That render on top is not what the AF GTR is going to look like. The AF GTR is going to be essentially the same car as the N1 racer that races all over the world.

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with the exception of the SCCA mandated wing and the bodywork.
 
FireEmblem62
AF did not just sponsor the car, they are the ones that bought it and will be campagining(definate sp) it.
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yep igor is the man (af owner, team owner and driver) i think hes only 20 or so. they have an awesome model car forum :)
 

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