Slowest Competitive Le Mans Car?

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I want to know what the slowest Group C/LMP's are that can still win the 24 Hours of Le Mans are. I want a challenge, and the 908 HDi just made it too easy. Anything other than the R10 should do. I want something that can compete with the Hybride and the R8's, but also has enough endurance to outlast them on the course. Thanks in advance.
 
Well, I used the 787B, and that car was pretty competitive. But if you want a tougher race, you could limit its power to a certain degree and test it on separate sessions.
 
I was thinking along the lines of the Courage C60, or the V12 LMR stock, but I want to know if there's anything that would make the race more challenging.
 
What are the opponents? ...sorry I don't remember? :(
 
Maybe Audi R8 team Playstation( the one that looks like an Audi R8 V10) , or Toyota 7 race car?
 
Well he asked for a challenge...
 
jgancherjr
Well he asked for a challenge...
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I think I saw someone doing it in BMW McLaren F1. The thing is that even though your lap times weren't as good as AI's, the AI takes so long in the pits that you might still have a chance.
 
You could try the Mercedes CLK GTR. It did me well in the same race in GT4 and it's performance is pretty much the same relative to the top competitors in GT5 too.
 
Yep. That or the TS020 GT-One.

The problem is the performance differential between wet and dry - the fastest AI car in the wet isn't the fastest AI car in the dry and that means that you can't tune your choice to the fastest AI.

I'm using the GT-One right now and it's about 1% quicker than the lead dry AI in my race (Audi R8) - but that means 3 laps by halfway... However, it started to rain on hour 11 and the TS020 is... slippery when wet. It's about 2-4s a lap slower in full wet conditions compared to the lead wet AI (Bentley Speed 8).

It's quite tight and tricky at the moment :lol: I've got about 2 laps and 3 minutes (so about 11 minutes) on the Audi, but the Bentley is closing on the Audi and I have no idea how far down it is to the Audi nor if it'll close on me. Or what happens when it starts drying...
 
Even though this will screw you at night, the Chaparral 2J. Passed the All-Star championship with it.

Those fans, its light weight and the massive V8 make it tough enough to take on the LMPs. But you don't have any headlights. If you fiddle enough with the brightness you should be fine.
 
Racedude
Even though this will screw you at night, the Chaparral 2J. Passed the All-Star championship with it.

Those fans, its light weight and the massive V8 make it tough enough to take on the LMPs. But you don't have any headlights. If you fiddle enough with the brightness you should be fine.
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Or use the Driving Line.
This combination won me Le Mans in an FGT. Sounds easy due to its raw speed, clearly is not. :lol:

Back OT, the Courage C60 bone stock should give a tense race, as the car is limited to 200mph.
 
All of the Pescarlos, especially Courage C60 '03 (so slow and is hard to control) as well as the R10 (duh :P) as that thing is terrible at cornering.
For the best challenge, they all should be stock and racing hard tires only.

As for racing gt1 cars like Vertigo, CLK, Mclaren GTR, R390..well those are cars of a different class. You would get more of a challenge using them though but...yea =\.
So best challenge would be either using Pescarolo Courage c60 with no tuning and only racing hard tires :)

(and don't listen to people who are telling you to drive cars with no headlights XD)
 
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Quick update - I've lost around 4 minutes to the Audi R8 during the rain spell (and I'm pretty sure the Bentley is closing on us both), so as it stands with 16 hours gone I have just a two lap advantage - 0.9%. It could be closer, but I'm glad it isn't. If the rain keeps falling I stand to lose about another six minutes - which will be just about a 0.2% winning margin.

This GT-One is bone stock and I've been using racing rain and racing intermediate tyres during the rainy phase with racing medium fronts and racing hard rears during the dry phase.
 
Famine
Quick update - I've lost around 4 minutes to the Audi R8 during the rain spell (and I'm pretty sure the Bentley is closing on us both), so as it stands with 16 hours gone I have just a two lap advantage - 0.9%. It could be closer, but I'm glad it isn't. If the rain keeps falling I stand to lose about another six minutes - which will be just about a 0.2% winning margin.

This GT-One is bone stock and I've been using racing rain and racing intermediate tyres during the rainy phase with racing medium fronts and racing hard rears during the dry phase.
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How's the endurance on the car in the wet and dry?
 
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All of the Pescarlos, especially Courage C60 '03 (so slow and is hard to control) as well as the R10 (duh :P) as that thing is terrible at cornering.
For the best challenge, they all should be stock and racing hard tires only.

As for racing gt1 cars like Vertigo, CLK, Mclaren GTR, R390..well those are cars of a different class. You would get more of a challenge using them though but...yea =\.
So best challenge would be either using Pescarolo Courage c60 with no tuning and only racing hard tires :)

(and don't listen to people who are telling you to drive cars with no headlights XD)
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Or just play with your TV's brightness and contrast :p
 
Famine
Quick update - I've lost around 4 minutes to the Audi R8 during the rain spell (and I'm pretty sure the Bentley is closing on us both), so as it stands with 16 hours gone I have just a two lap advantage - 0.9%. It could be closer, but I'm glad it isn't. If the rain keeps falling I stand to lose about another six minutes - which will be just about a 0.2% winning margin.

This GT-One is bone stock and I've been using racing rain and racing intermediate tyres during the rainy phase with racing medium fronts and racing hard rears during the dry phase.
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I have to say I'm a bit surprised by this. In my experience the AI drives like a snail when it's wet. Have they changed it at some update maybe?
 
Sohvakettu
I have to say I'm a bit surprised by this. In my experience the AI drives like a snail when it's wet. Have they changed it at some update maybe?
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Yes, they have. It used to be when is starts to rain, the AI started to slow down because they didn't have the correct tires, which gave you a lot of time to pass them all.
 
Hyped
How's the endurance on the car in the wet and dry?
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Sohvakettu
I have to say I'm a bit surprised by this. In my experience the AI drives like a snail when it's wet. Have they changed it at some update maybe?
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Without traction control, the Toyota will last five laps on hards or wets on the rear before it becomes undriveable. In fact in the wet it's pretty much undriveable anyway - wheelspin in any gear under 120mph - but it's just about catchable most of the time until the rears are half gone. This means I have to pit every five laps regardless - using 40 litres in the dry and about 36 in the wet.

The AI will run 7-10 laps on their tyres, due to their "natural" traction control (they ARE the TCS controller...), but obviously sit longer refuelling.

With regards to pace, in the dry I'm around 4-7s a lap faster than the lead AI. In the wet I'm within 2-3s a lap either way to that AI, but the Bentley is faster. Until it wipes out the gap to the Audi I won't know how much faster.

It effectively means I'm losing about 15s every 15 laps now (three stops to two). Since I had a nine minute lead (which became a twelve minute lead with the rain) it's no problem, but the two minutes I lost due to the Resume bug.
 

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