So being overpowered by 70hp isn't enough apparently (B-spec Sports Truck).

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MidianGTX
What's with this crap? I outpower everything, the event is level 6 and my driver is level 12, yet he still can't get out of TWELFTH place? Whaaaat? Talking about Daytona here BTW, so it's not overly complicated.

P.S. I owned this event on A-spec so the vehicle is definitely capable.

P.P.S. How weird is the word twelfth when you spell it out?
 
I have noticed that having to much HP for spec B is a bad thing. Back it off to around the same level as the top competitors. Also lightness = gold in B-spec. I never coach the driver just click begin race and work else where. Currently have the first 3 levels golded out on B-spec using these ideas.
 
What truck are you using? I used the Ram in A-Spec (haven't done this event in B-Spec yet) and I noticed the other trucks caught up to me really easy on the straights on Daytona.You could get a fully customizable tranny and stretch the ratios, or try and get one of the faster trucks.


Parker
 
After my driver getting into first then letting everyone overtake him, I supercharged my Silverado SST to 750HP so that he could overtake on the straights what he lost from over braking on the corners. He only just beat a toyota with half the horsepower by less than a second....
 
Yes, some of the tuning necessary to beat the B-Spec races is ridiculous as you have to build an overpowered car only to a win a horribly useless prize car in return.

My B-Spec drivers still cannot win the Yaris race, even after I have given it weight reductions, engine upgrades, full air filter upgrades, exhaust upgrades, low RPM turbo, suspension and full drivetrain upgrades. The best they can do is second place, so I am going to have to upgrade it even further just for this one race.
 
Rekarp
Maybe your over coaching him.
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Rekarp
I have noticed that having to much HP for spec B is a bad thing. Back it off to around the same level as the top competitors.
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You do realize what race he is talking about, correct? Your advice really doesn't apply.

MidianGTX
What's with this crap? I outpower everything, the event is level 6 and my driver is level 12, yet he still can't get out of TWELFTH place? Whaaaat? Talking about Daytona here BTW, so it's not overly complicated.
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What truck are you using? If you used the Ram I could give you some advice. I don't know anything about using the other trucks.
 
I used the F150. I had to lighten it and give him about 600 HP to get him to the front also required some direction. Probably lost this race 3 or 4 times before I took off the weight and won it.
 
This happened to me too. i have a chevrolet ssr tune to 500something hp and full weghit reductuion along with full suspenstion and tranny. with this setup i only beat an X-runner by about 1 second on daytona with him catching me on the straights and losing him in the corners. i think this race is definitly rigged. oh and i also had sports hard tires wich is the max tire allowed for this race.
 
It is most likely due to the slip stream. I have raced on this track with my friends and it is anyones race everytime when we are in similar cars. A lot of fun actually for an oval.
 
fireb0lt
My B-Spec drivers still cannot win the Yaris race, even after I have given it weight reductions, engine upgrades, full air filter upgrades, exhaust upgrades, low RPM turbo, suspension and full drivetrain upgrades. The best they can do is second place, so I am going to have to upgrade it even further just for this one race.
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I saw it coming, remembering the old Vitz race from one of the earlier GT's. I bought a brand new one and maxed it out in all directions. I think my B Spec drivers get better cars to play with than I do.
 
fireb0lt
Yes, some of the tuning necessary to beat the B-Spec races is ridiculous as you have to build an overpowered car only to a win a horribly useless prize car in return.

My B-Spec drivers still cannot win the Yaris race, even after I have given it weight reductions, engine upgrades, full air filter upgrades, exhaust upgrades, low RPM turbo, suspension and full drivetrain upgrades. The best they can do is second place, so I am going to have to upgrade it even further just for this one race.
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I used an older Yaris, the second lightest one available. Anyhow I did it myself with just simple upgrades, tyres and stage 1 lweight reduction. For b-spec I just bolted on a high rpm turbo, did a stage 1 tune, some height adjustable sports suspension and he was fine.

I think smaller turbos are usually a waste of time in this game. In real life theres no way I'd put a massive turbo on a Yaris, even if it was for track use high RPM only. For GT5 though it's different.... besides you don't want to give your b-spec driver more torque down low, he'll just use it to spin out on corners :sly:
 
He's braking too much - at least that was the problem with my Bob in the Daytona truck race.

I ended up through every power increase/weight reduction at it, it's probably the most expensive B-Spec race I've done!
 
I used a fully tuned SSR (max engine upgrade and max weight reduction). I even bought a rear wing.
But the best truck to do this race is toyota tacoma x-runner. They always end up in 2nd and 3rd when I win.
 
You should always mod your cars more for B-spec races because B-spec Bob is well... terrible.


fireb0lt
My B-Spec drivers still cannot win the Yaris race, even after I have given it weight reductions, engine upgrades, full air filter upgrades, exhaust upgrades, low RPM turbo, suspension and full drivetrain upgrades. The best they can do is second place, so I am going to have to upgrade it even further just for this one race.
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There is a "turbo" Yaris/Vitz model with 150 HP stock. Its a rare car to show up but its a sure win if you mod this model.


The truck race at laguna seca was way tougher than the daytona race for me. laguna seca is the worst track to b-spec, there's just no passing zones the way its programmed.
 
The Yaris race is easy to win actually and you don't need to do much at all. Apparently it is not restirced to the Yaris. My buddy used the Camry Nascar in it.
 
The ram is the slowest of all the trucks, it is far too heavy to be competitive. Look through the used cars for a Toyota Tacoma X-Runner or Chevrolet Silverado SST Concept. The Tacoma only comes with 250hp but can easily be upgraded to beat them since it is the lightest. The Silverado packs 500hp, and with weight reduction, a supercharger, and adjustment of the transmission gears should be able to leave the pack behind.
 
SS97
The ram is the slowest of all the trucks, it is far too heavy to be competitive. Look through the used cars for a Toyota Tacoma X-Runner or Chevrolet Silverado SST Concept. The Tacoma only comes with 250hp but can easily be upgraded to beat them since it is the lightest. The Silverado packs 500hp, and with weight reduction, a supercharger, and adjustment of the transmission gears should be able to leave the pack behind.
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I traded somebody for his maxed out Dodge 700HP I beleive, won the event with ease on the first try but driver was a higher level than event because it took me so long just to find a truck.
 
SS97
The ram is the slowest of all the trucks, it is far too heavy to be competitive. Look through the used cars for a Toyota Tacoma X-Runner or Chevrolet Silverado SST Concept. The Tacoma only comes with 250hp but can easily be upgraded to beat them since it is the lightest. The Silverado packs 500hp, and with weight reduction, a supercharger, and adjustment of the transmission gears should be able to leave the pack behind.
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It isn't particularly hard, or expensive for that matter, to win the Daytona race with the Ram. 100-125k is all that is needed to do so, which is about what you would have to dump into the Tundra anyways. And the Ram is the easiest one to use to win at Laguna Seca by far, because the B-Spec driver behaves far more with it than he does with the FR trucks.
 
just level up your driver. I forget exactally what level I was but when I first attempted Bob got 8th place. With the exact same car leveled above 10+ I think he aced it. This was with a Tacoma with weight reduction and engine mods.
 
I won with the Dodge Ram.
You have to not only lighten it, and max the hp,
but you have to tune it.
Slam it to the ground, and I can't remember if it had aerodynamics
or not, but if so, take as much down force as possible, until he does not hit the wall. And you have to manage him perfectly.
I let him sit back until the last couple of laps, to save the tires.
Then push hard until the end.
 
BRP17
I won with the Dodge Ram.
You have to not only lighten it, and max the hp,
but you have to tune it.
Slam it to the ground, and I can't remember if it had aerodynamics
or not, but if so, take as much down force as possible, until he does not hit the wall. And you have to manage him perfectly.
I let him sit back until the last couple of laps, to save the tires.
Then push hard until the end.
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You don't really have to do any of these things.
Fully lighten it.
Take it to about 600 horsepower.
That's it.

The rest of it is just running the race correctly, so you go for draft and complete the pass for the lead going into the last corner on the last lap.
 
Toronado
You don't really have to do any of these things.
Fully lighten it.
Take it to about 600 horsepower.
That's it.

The rest of it is just running the race correctly, so you go for draft and complete the pass for the lead going into the last corner on the last lap.
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I've ran alot of B-specs in the actual cab of the cars it helps to know exactly when there going straight to tell them to lay on the juice, it really does help.
 
bob likes longer gear ratios than you. i gave him my lightly tuned lightning which i won with and he did nothing but fall back. i then gave the car to him again fully modded and he fell back... i then increased the gearing by about 50 stop speed and bob annihilated them...
 
Rekarp
The fact that my driver won with a stock F-150 lightning says otherwise.
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No it doesn't. You are acting as if over managing the driver and having too much horsepower is a problem. And for some races, that is absolutely true.

This specific race, however, is at an oval. There are no worries to be had with Bob spinning out from having too much power. There are no worries about Bob cooking turns because his meter is in the red. And it doesn't even make much of a difference if you just ignore him for most of the race, because the AI provides plenty of drafting opportunities. Your advice doesn't apply for this race, and is actually directly contrary to the suggestions that make the race easier.
 

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