So I bought the Lexus LFA Nur edition,

[Lambob]

I purchased the Lexus LFA Nurburging edition (my first car after the Honda Fit).

I assumed that it would have come somewhat tuned already. I was absolutely miffed at the fact that it comes with Nothing, and it handles like a really bad car on the Nurburgring. it has rear aero that you cannot even adjust.

you can still buy suspension and adjust that, but I reaaally thought that for once, PD included this car for a special reason.

car comes with sport hard tires too. It handles even worse on flat tracks. grr. arg.

 

[eSZee]

sport hards sound about right.

 

[Zuel]

The LFA Nurburgring edition is not a special car, it the same LFA with a different engine mapping, suspension and a static are package.

 

[Catlin]

car comes with sport hard tires too.

I don't understand...did you expect a road sports car to come with slicks? or you wanted comforts?

 

[thunderjolt]

Add racing tyres and see how it feels

 

[CodeRedR51]

Add racing tyres and see how it feels

That should never be the answer.

 

[gta_bird]

^ What he said. Racing tires really kills the personality and individualism of street cars.

 

[sparkytooth]

It's basically an LFA with 11 more ponies, new rims and an aero package. It's as much of a street car as the other one is.

Sports Hards are standard issue for most sports/supercars.

 

[Lambob]

thanks for clarifying for me, I guess I was just uneducated about this car to start. I just saw it as a leaderboard champ on the Nur, and I thought I'd be in for a treat. It is fast though, it gets to speed real quick, perhaps I just need to learn to drive (in GT6 period!) It's really a whole new game, and loving it.

Time to save for those ferrari's. And Lambo's.

 

[6ranTur15m05]

I don't understand...did you expect a road sports car to come with slicks? or you wanted comforts?

Sports softs.

 

[happycorey]

Idk what you mean it drives great even on comfort hards



Willow Springs International Raceway - Streets Of Willow Springs_5 by corey m stover, on Flickr

 

[MadmuppGT]

Powerful road cars should come with Medium to soft Sports tyres as standard... you wouldnt have cheap rubber on a car like this in real life, so why would you have a hard slipperly compound to connect it to the road.

same with comfort tyres, they should be ok on small hatchbacks and such, like in real life, but the moment you have anything with a little power you need sports tyres. Just like real life, you wouldnt fit your sports car with cheap budget tyres. Hence why the seasonals where youre forced to use comfort tyres depress me

 

[sparkytooth]

The LFA is a great handler regardless, atleast in my hands . The Nur edition should be even better, judging by the track oriented suspension and the aero package.

She's a good girl even on sports hards.

 

[JamboGT]

LFA Nurburgring Edition ha very quickly become my favourite car.

 

[sparkytooth]

LFA Nurburgring Edition ha very quickly become my favourite car.

Glorious right?

Hope the new nerfed money lets me buy back my 9 GT5 LFAs.

 

[fifomaniak]

Sports softs.

Sport Soft tyres doesn't feel at all like a road tyre. Sports Hard are absolutely maximum, they feel like barely legal tire for road. Comfort Hard are for ordinary cars, Medium for hot hatches and more sporty cars, Soft are for sport and super cars. Use what you like, but with too grippy tires all cars feel pretty much the same.

 

[whereSTheFUhd]

Powerful road cars should come with Medium to soft Sports tyres as standard... you wouldnt have cheap rubber on a car like this in real life, so why would you have a hard slipperly compound to connect it to the road.

same with comfort tyres, they should be ok on small hatchbacks and such, like in real life, but the moment you have anything with a little power you need sports tyres. Just like real life, you wouldnt fit your sports car with cheap budget tyres. Hence why the seasonals where youre forced to use comfort tyres depress me

Most high performance sports cars and super cars will be fitted, in real life, with stock tires (i.e., Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G:2, Toyo Proxes R1R, Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD07 / AD08, Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 / RE070, Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, Pirelli P Zero Nero / Rosso, etc.) that have grip levels more in line with that of those tires labelled as Comfort Soft tires in GT.

The Sports Hard tires in GT are more akin to the barely street legal DOT tires that are basically race slicks with the bare minimum tread required to pass legal standards (i.e., Michelin Pilot Sport Cup, Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Yokohama ADVAN A048 and, on the more extreme end, Toyo Proxes R888 / RA1, Hoosier R6, Hankook Ventus Z214, BFGoodrich g-Force R1, etc.). In the shaved form that they are often used in (4/32), for all intents and purposes, they are basically within a simple whisper of a breath past that point of being street legal.

Anything beyond Comfort Soft for the majority of street cars is going into serious competition / track day tires. Anything much beyond Sport Hard for all street cars is going into ridiculous levels of grip that would, in real life, be mismatched for the car without the car undergoing some serious race modifications.

The nature of Comfort Soft tires being analogous to the majority of stock tires that come on high performance machines has also been specifically confirmed and verified by PD. Again, for the most part, anything much further beyond is dealing with unrealistic grip levels.

 

[Zer0]

This thread brings back old memories:
Reasons to buy gt6

Powerful road cars should come with Medium to soft Sports tyres as standard... you wouldnt have cheap rubber on a car like this in real life, so why would you have a hard slipperly compound to connect it to the road.

same with comfort tyres, they should be ok on small hatchbacks and such, like in real life, but the moment you have anything with a little power you need sports tyres. Just like real life, you wouldnt fit your sports car with cheap budget tyres. Hence why the seasonals where youre forced to use comfort tyres depress me

The real tyres of the LFA:
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tire/potenza-re070

 

[MadmuppGT]

Most high performance sports cars and super cars will be fitted, in real life, with stock tires (i.e., Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G:2, Toyo Proxes R1R, Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD07 / AD08, Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 / RE070, Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, Pirelli P Zero Nero / Rosso, etc.) that have grip levels more in line with that of those tires labelled as Comfort Soft tires in GT.

The Sports Hard tires in GT are more akin to the barely street legal DOT tires that are basically race slicks with the bare minimum tread required to pass legal standards (i.e., Michelin Pilot Sport Cup, Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Yokohama ADVAN A048 and, on the more extreme end, Toyo Proxes R888 / RA1, Hoosier R6, Hankook Ventus Z214, BFGoodrich g-Force R1, etc.). In the shaved form that they are often used in (4/32), for all intents and purposes, they are basically within a simple whisper of a breath past that point of being street legal.

Anything beyond Comfort Soft for the majority of street cars is going into serious competition / track day tires. Anything much beyond Sport Hard for all street cars is going into ridiculous levels of grip that would, in real life, be mismatched for the car without the car undergoing some serious race modifications.

The nature of Comfort Soft tires being analogous to the majority of stock tires that come on high performance machines has also been specifically confirmed and verified by PD. Again, for the most part, anything much further beyond is dealing with unrealistic grip levels.

I agree that using super grippy tyres on anything but race cars pretty much kills the characteristics of a car. But Ive had seasonals in GT5 where supercars and hypercars have been forced to have comfort tyres... The tyres the LFA uses in real life dont look much like a standard tyre to me...

The real tyres of the LFA:
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tire/potenza-re070

Those dont look like normal comfort tyres to me...

 

[sparkytooth]

I literally freaked out when I found out this machine made it into GT6. I jumped around in joy like the nintendo 64 kid

 

[Zer0]

Those dont look like normal comfort tyres to me...

An old picture but still:

 

[whereSTheFUhd]

Most high performance sports cars and super cars will be fitted, in real life, with stock tires (i.e., Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G:2, Toyo Proxes R1R, Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD07 / AD08, Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 / RE070, Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, Pirelli P Zero Nero / Rosso, etc.) that have grip levels more in line with that of those tires labelled as Comfort Soft tires in GT.

The Sports Hard tires in GT are more akin to the barely street legal DOT tires that are basically race slicks with the bare minimum tread required to pass legal standards (i.e., Michelin Pilot Sport Cup, Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Yokohama ADVAN A048 and, on the more extreme end, Toyo Proxes R888 / RA1, Hoosier R6, Hankook Ventus Z214, BFGoodrich g-Force R1, etc.). In the shaved form that they are often used in (4/32), for all intents and purposes, they are basically within a simple whisper of a breath past that point of being street legal.

Anything beyond Comfort Soft for the majority of street cars is going into serious competition / track day tires. Anything much beyond Sport Hard for all street cars is going into ridiculous levels of grip that would, in real life, be mismatched for the car without the car undergoing some serious race modifications.

The nature of Comfort Soft tires being analogous to the majority of stock tires that come on high performance machines has also been specifically confirmed and verified by PD. Again, for the most part, anything much further beyond is dealing with unrealistic grip levels.

I agree that using super grippy tyres on anything but race cars pretty much kills the characteristics of a car. But Ive had seasonals in GT5 where supercars and hypercars have been forced to have comfort tyres... The tyres the LFA uses in real life dont look much like a standard tyre to me...

The real tyres of the LFA:
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tire/potenza-re070

Those dont look like normal comfort tyres to me...

As I stated in the post you quoted me in (which I bolded and italicized), the Bridgestone Potenza RE070 would indeed fall within the grip level range of GT's Comfort Soft tires.

And, if you were to disregard their similar grip levels, focusing only on the tread pattern, which seems to be the general point of contention in your above statement, they would indeed fall into the category of what one might consider an upper level (or Soft) Comfort tire. They have larger outer shoulder blocks than a mid or lower level Comfort for greater tread stability under high lateral loads - though not as large tread blocks or as prominent a continuous longitudinal tread band as those in the Sport tire range - while still retaining large continuous longitudinal voids for efficient water evacuation, along with the larger degree of voids on the inner shoulder to aid in wet traction - which would be significantly diminished in the Sport tire range.

Again, even if we were to nullify any individual person's appraisal of grip levels as they are represented in virtual and real life, this understanding of tire grip levels between stock tires and GT is supported by PD themselves.

 

[Swagger897]

An old picture but still:

Holy crap, did softs go up 4k?